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Message no. 1
From: Jak Koke jak@****.org
Subject: drakes, Ryan Mercury and dhs
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:51:19 -1000
Hello all,

Just a quick note to explain about Ryan. I'm not sure if spoilers are
necessary but I'll include them anyway.




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When I wrote the trilogy, the Earthdawn sourcebook Dragons had not been
written. It was about a year away actually. Some of you may find it hard
to believe, but FASA hadn't fleshed out the exact nature of drakes in their
universe(s) from the very beginning. FASA does an excellent job of
crafting a fairly consistent universe while working with a number of
different writers who all have their own ideas and opinions as to what
should be included and how.

Nevermind the fact that Earthdawn and Shadowrun are separate games and that
the rules and concepts from Dragons do not necessarily apply to Shadowrun.
When I wrote the dragon heart series, I was working with Mike Mulvihill and
we were under the assumption that (perhaps) drakes were simply magical
creatures which required a higher mana level to exist, that Dunkelzahn had
recognized Ryan's inherent nature and had thus nurtured and trained him. I
realize that this is contradictory to what is in the Dragon's sourcebook,
but as I mentioned before, Dragons hadn't been written yet and I wrote my
books based on what was known at the time. The fact that the authors of
Dragons apparently contradicted me at least fo r the Earthdawn universe,
is unfortunate.

What I can attempt to offer as a possible explanation is this:
perhaps it is possible that a single drake (created at the very end of the
last cycle), might survive in hibernation along with a dragon. The dragon
would understand that if this were possible, emerging from hibernation with
the immediate access to a servant would put him at a great advantage over
his fellow dragons.

That drake would undoubtedly emerge with no memory of the previous age and
would have been placed in hibernation in the form of a metahuman so as to
more easily blend in with others. The dragon may allow this servant to
explore the world for a while, perhaps magically altering his memories to
make him believe he had grown up in a family, etc... all the while keeping
tabs on him, protecting him and training him for his role as servant once
the magic level rose high enough.

YMMV on all this.

Best,

--Jak

Jak Koke
http://www.koke.org/jak/
http://www.koke.org/bookworks/
Message no. 2
From: abortion_engine abortion_engine@*******.com
Subject: drakes, Ryan Mercury and dhs
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 15:27:13 -0500
From: "Jak Koke" <jak@****.org>
> Hello all,
>
> Just a quick note to explain about Ryan. I'm not sure if spoilers are
> necessary but I'll include them anyway.
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> When I wrote the trilogy, the Earthdawn sourcebook Dragons had not been
> written. It was about a year away actually. Some of you may find it hard
> to believe, but FASA hadn't fleshed out the exact nature of drakes in
their
> universe(s) from the very beginning. FASA does an excellent job of
> crafting a fairly consistent universe while working with a number of
> different writers who all have their own ideas and opinions as to what
> should be included and how.

That explains a lot. I hadn't taken into account the timeline. [Hey, thanks
for explaining that!]

> Nevermind the fact that Earthdawn and Shadowrun are separate games and
that
> the rules and concepts from Dragons do not necessarily apply to Shadowrun.

Bite your tongue! :)

> What I can attempt to offer as a possible explanation is this:
> perhaps it is possible that a single drake (created at the very end of the
> last cycle), might survive in hibernation along with a dragon. The dragon
> would understand that if this were possible, emerging from hibernation
with
> the immediate access to a servant would put him at a great advantage over
> his fellow dragons.
>
> That drake would undoubtedly emerge with no memory of the previous age and
> would have been placed in hibernation in the form of a metahuman so as to
> more easily blend in with others. The dragon may allow this servant to
> explore the world for a while, perhaps magically altering his memories to
> make him believe he had grown up in a family, etc... all the while keeping
> tabs on him, protecting him and training him for his role as servant once
> the magic level rose high enough.

Mmm. Nice explanation. I'll buy that.

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Message no. 3
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: drakes, Ryan Mercury and dhs
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:16:07 -0800 (PST)
> Hello all,
>
> Just a quick note to explain about Ryan. I'm not
> sure if spoilers are
> necessary but I'll include them anyway.
>
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First of all, Jak, thanks for the explanation.
Apologies if anything I said came over as abrasive,
but I was rather excited when I wrote the first
message. :)

> When I wrote the trilogy, the Earthdawn sourcebook
Dragons had not been written. It was about a year away
actually. Some of you may find it hard to believe,
but FASA hadn't fleshed out the exact nature of drakes
in their universe(s) from the very beginning. FASA
does an excellent job of crafting a fairly consistent
universe while working with a number of different
writers who all have their own ideas and opinions as
to what should be included and how.

Believe it or not, that was my initial guess. The
problem comes in trying to make everything mesh now
that we have both references.

> Nevermind the fact that Earthdawn and Shadowrun are
separate games and that the rules and concepts from
Dragons do not necessarily apply to Shadowrun. When I
wrote the dragon heart series, I was working with Mike
Mulvihill and we were under the assumption that
(perhaps) drakes were simply magical creatures which
required a higher mana level to exist, that Dunkelzahn
had recognized Ryan's inherent nature and had thus
nurtured and trained him. I realize that this is
contradictory to what is in the Dragon's sourcebook,
but as I mentioned before, Dragons hadn't been written
yet and I wrote my books based on what was known at
the time. The fact that the authors of Dragons
apparently contradicted me at least fo r the Earthdawn
universe, is unfortunate.

Eh. It happens. The only people who seem to be worried
are myself (due to curiousity) and ae (who is more
interested in merging the two games than is likely
healthy for him ;) ).

> What I can attempt to offer as a possible
explanation is this: perhaps it is possible that a
single drake (created at the very end of the last
cycle), might survive in hibernation along with a
dragon. The dragon would understand that if this were
possible, emerging from hibernation with the immediate
access to a servant would put him at a great advantage
over his fellow dragons.
>
> That drake would undoubtedly emerge with no memory
of the previous age and would have been placed in
hibernation in the form of a metahuman so as to more
easily blend in with others. The dragon may allow this
servant to explore the world for a while, perhaps
magically altering his memories to make him believe he
had grown up in a family, etc... all the while keeping
tabs on him, protecting him and training him for his
role as servant once the magic level rose high enough.
>
> YMMV on all this.
> Best,
> --Jak

Another possible theory. Not sure which to go with.
Then again, the question will probably never come up
in a game of mine, so it won't matter. :)

====Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow, aka Doc'-booner)

S.S. f. P.S.C. & D.J.

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Message no. 4
From: Ray Macey macey@***.com.au
Subject: drakes, Ryan Mercury and dhs
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:03:12 +1000
----- Original Message -----
From: Jak Koke <jak@****.org>
To: <shadowrn@*********.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 5:51 AM
Subject: drakes, Ryan Mercury and dhs


> Hello all,
>
> Just a quick note to explain about Ryan. I'm not sure if spoilers are
> necessary but I'll include them anyway.
>
>
>
>
> s
> p
> o
> i
> l
> e
> r
> s
>
> f
> o
> r
>
> d
> r
> a
> g
> o
> n
>
> h
> e
> a
> r
> t
>
> t
> r
> i
> l
> o
> g
> y
>
>
>
> What I can attempt to offer as a possible explanation is this:
> perhaps it is possible that a single drake (created at the very end of the
> last cycle), might survive in hibernation along with a dragon. The dragon
> would understand that if this were possible, emerging from hibernation
with
> the immediate access to a servant would put him at a great advantage over
> his fellow dragons.

See, now in ED there was the Book of Blue Spirits which IIRC allowed the
creation of drakes that can breed. I simply assumed that Ryan was a
descendant of one of these drakes, and he was simply not able to express his
true genetics because of the lack of mana level.

NightRain.

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