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Message no. 1
From: allura@***********.org (Joanna Hurley)
Subject: DriveThruRPG was RE: And So It Came To Pass...
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:00:32 -0500
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shadowrn-bounces@*****.dumpshock.com
> [mailto:shadowrn-bounces@*****.dumpshock.com] On Behalf Of Adam Jury

> .. there are a few
> other higher priority projects on my plate right now, like
> getting the first batch of Shadowrun books up on drivethrurpg.com

I don't want to get into a DRM/non-DRM argument, but I do want to ask which
version FanPro will be using, if you know/can say. I understand
DriveThruRPG recently came up with a version that marks your pdf with your
name, etc as well as encrypt it (but not with Adobe's encryption). Will
FanPro be using that, or Adobe's DRM?

Frankly, there's books we'll be buying either way (Tir Taingire comes to
mind!); this is mostly curiosity.

Joanna
Message no. 2
From: adamj@*********.com (Adam Jury)
Subject: DriveThruRPG was RE: And So It Came To Pass...
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:04:27 -0700
On 20-Jan-05, at 7:00 PM, Joanna Hurley wrote:

> I don't want to get into a DRM/non-DRM argument, but I do want to ask
> which
> version FanPro will be using, if you know/can say. I understand
> DriveThruRPG recently came up with a version that marks your pdf with
> your
> name, etc as well as encrypt it (but not with Adobe's encryption).
> Will
> FanPro be using that, or Adobe's DRM?

No DRM. Ick. Patooie. Yuck.

I promise.

Cheers,
Adam
Message no. 3
From: allura@***********.org (Joanna Hurley)
Subject: DriveThruRPG was RE: And So It Came To Pass...
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:29:32 -0500
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shadowrn-bounces@*****.dumpshock.com
> [mailto:shadowrn-bounces@*****.dumpshock.com] On Behalf Of Adam Jury

> No DRM. Ick. Patooie. Yuck.
>
> I promise.
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>

Woot!

I did think it was ironic that SHADOWRUN might have something like DRM on
it, considering the topic of the game <g>.

Thanks,
Joanna
Message no. 4
From: jeremie.bouillon@****.fr (Jeremie Bouillon)
Subject: DriveThruRPG was RE: And So It Came To Pass...
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 06:04:11 +0100
Le 03:04 21/01/2005, Adam Jury écrivait :
>No DRM. Ick. Patooie. Yuck.

At all. Yes ! Fanpro we'll be the first large scale editor to make the
right move about it.

Well I do have the entire collection in book, but I will still buy every
searchable pdf :-)

>I promise.

Good :)


--
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Message no. 5
From: adamj@*********.com (Adam Jury)
Subject: DriveThruRPG was RE: And So It Came To Pass...
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:46:09 -0700
On 20-Jan-05, at 9:29 PM, Joanna Hurley wrote:

> I did think it was ironic that SHADOWRUN might have something like DRM
> on
> it, considering the topic of the game <g>.

Yeah. :-)

And - my opinion, not FanPro's - you get what you pay for. If you want
huge bloated PDF files that aren't searchable and have crooked pages
and generally look like shit, go download them from usenet or whatever
P2P service you prefer. If you want small files with searchable text
and bookmarks, without misaligned pages or other scanning mistakes, and
with all the latest corrections, buy the files from FanPro when they
become available.

Adam
Message no. 6
From: jeremie.bouillon@****.fr (Jeremie Bouillon)
Subject: DriveThruRPG was RE: And So It Came To Pass...
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:57:27 +0100
Le 07:46 21/01/2005, Adam Jury écrivait :
>And - my opinion, not FanPro's - you get what you pay for. If you want
>huge bloated PDF files that aren't searchable and have crooked pages
>and generally look like shit, go download them from usenet or whatever
>P2P service you prefer.

Ouch... that's still illegal. And even if someone has his mind set about
P2P, something along the line "Madonna can afford to lose a couple CD here
and there, and if I like them I will buy them, and it's promotionnal" and
so on, we should all remember that Fanpro is not Madonna ^^

>If you want small files with searchable text
>and bookmarks, without misaligned pages or other scanning mistakes, and
>with all the latest corrections, buy the files from FanPro when they
>become available.

And 300DPI images ? :-p


--
Jérémie. ShadowFrance : http://www.shadowfrance.net
SRGC 0.22: SR1-- SR2- SR3 h b+++(++) B-- UB+ IE+ RN LST(DsF)
LST(SrF)+>++ W+>++ dk++>+++ sh+++ ma++ ad+ ri !rk m+ gm-(+) M--(+) P-
Message no. 7
From: adamj@*********.com (Adam Jury)
Subject: DriveThruRPG was RE: And So It Came To Pass...
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:15:31 -0700
On 20-Jan-05, at 11:57 PM, Jeremie Bouillon wrote:

> >If you want small files with searchable text
> >and bookmarks, without misaligned pages or other scanning mistakes,
> and
> >with all the latest corrections, buy the files from FanPro when they
> >become available.
>
> And 300DPI images ? :-p

Yes.

Before compression. ;-)

Adam
Message no. 8
From: jeremie.bouillon@****.fr (Jeremie Bouillon)
Subject: DriveThruRPG was RE: And So It Came To Pass...
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:40:39 +0100
Le 08:15 21/01/2005, Adam Jury écrivait :
>> And 300DPI images ? :-p

>Yes.
>Before compression. ;-)

Gnagnagna :-)

I meant after integration into pdf... don't know if drivethru can do that,
but to have both version (a 96^^ahem 72 dpi, lite-weighted, and another
with 300DPI images – and little compression – heavy weighted for good
printability —is that english ?) would be nice.
Message no. 9
From: maxnoel_fr@*****.fr (Max Noel)
Subject: DriveThruRPG was RE: And So It Came To Pass...
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:30:28 +0000
On Jan 21, 2005, at 02:04, Adam Jury wrote:

>
> On 20-Jan-05, at 7:00 PM, Joanna Hurley wrote:
>
>> I don't want to get into a DRM/non-DRM argument, but I do want to ask
>> which
>> version FanPro will be using, if you know/can say. I understand
>> DriveThruRPG recently came up with a version that marks your pdf with
>> your
>> name, etc as well as encrypt it (but not with Adobe's encryption).
>> Will
>> FanPro be using that, or Adobe's DRM?
>
> No DRM. Ick. Patooie. Yuck.
>
> I promise.

It's official: you rule.

-- Wild_Cat
maxnoel_fr at yahoo dot fr -- ICQ #85274019
"Look at you hacker... A pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting
and sweating as you run through my corridors... How can you challenge a
perfect, immortal machine?"
Message no. 10
From: mattness@**.pl (mattness@**.pl)
Subject: DriveThruRPG was RE: And So It Came To Pass...
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:04:08 +0100
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:46:09 -0700, Adam Jury wrote:
> If you want small files with searchable textand bookmarks, without
> misaligned pages or other scanning mistakes, and
> with all the latest corrections, buy the files from FanPro when they
> become available.

Are you serious?
When?!
Where?!
And HOW MUCH? :)

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