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Message no. 1
From: Todd James Gillespie <toddg@****.ACS.UNT.EDU>
Subject: Druids
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 22:33:09 -0600
I'm setting up a new game, and one of my friends wants to play a
druid. I was designing a druid archetype, but while reading the faq I see
that someone already came up with one. Info, please?
Message no. 2
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 14:40:08 +0930
Todd James Gillespie wrote:
>
> I'm setting up a new game, and one of my friends wants to play a
> druid. I was designing a druid archetype, but while reading the faq I see
> that someone already came up with one. Info, please?

London Sourcebook, with an update on it in Grimoire II.

--
Robert Watkins bob@**.ntu.edu.au
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are around at 9 am, it's because they were up all night.
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Message no. 3
From: Scott Taylor Spencer <sts100z@********.CC.ODU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:20:48 -0500
On Tue, 21 Mar 1995, Todd James Gillespie wrote:

> I'm setting up a new game, and one of my friends wants to play a
> druid. I was designing a druid archetype, but while reading the faq I see
> that someone already came up with one. Info, please?
>
The druids are already designed and ready to play (sort of) Check out
the druid section of the Grimthingy, the London Source book, Tir Nan Og,
etc. The only real problem with druids is that they have to have a stone
circle near by to do the neat stuff. Of course you could set one up in
seattle.

Angus Blackwatch the Scotish Troll
Message no. 4
From: "NATHAN M. CHATFIELD" <s1183038@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Druids
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:17:55 +1000
I would like to play a Druid, although I was wondering if you could have
a Druid's home circle in America. Is this possible seeing that the Ley
lines are supposed to go around the world, and that a group of Druids can
actually make thier own Ley lines

----Warlock----
Message no. 5
From: Dvixen <Dvixen@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:22:59 -0800
NATHAN M. CHATFIELD wrote:
>
> I would like to play a Druid, although I was wondering if you could have
> a Druid's home circle in America. Is this possible seeing that the Ley
> lines are supposed to go around the world, and that a group of Druids can
> actually make thier own Ley lines

Part of what makes a Druid unique, is that they all hail from the Isles
originally. However, you are right about the ley lines going all over
the world. It may be as simple (in comparision to some things) to
activate the connect point (nexus?). It may be easier to design a
slightly different Druid, one that fits your (GM's) campaign. (I'd go
for the redesigning)

--

Dvixen dvixen@********.com
"And I thought First Ones were rare." - Ivanova - Babylon 5
I have no sense of decency. That way, all my other senses are enhanced
Message no. 6
From: Ray & Tamara <macey@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:53:45 +1000
> I would like to play a Druid, although I was wondering if you could have
> a Druid's home circle in America. Is this possible seeing that the Ley
> lines are supposed to go around the world, and that a group of Druids can
> actually make thier own Ley lines

I don't know that they should be able to operate outside of Britain and
area. I thought that was almost what defined them

Ray
Message no. 7
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:10:39 +0000
|
|> I would like to play a Druid, although I was wondering if you could have
|> a Druid's home circle in America. Is this possible seeing that the Ley
|> lines are supposed to go around the world, and that a group of Druids can
|> actually make thier own Ley lines
|
|I don't know that they should be able to operate outside of Britain and
|area. I thought that was almost what defined them

I think you're being a little strict there, aren't you?
Haven't you ever seen "Asterix the Gaul"?

Druids existed all over europe, and I see know reason why they shouldn't be
able to go elsewhere...
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Message no. 8
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 22:58:49 +0000
In article <169.199703141110@*****.teach.cs.keele.ac.uk>, Spike
<u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK> writes

>
>I think you're being a little strict there, aren't you?
>Haven't you ever seen "Asterix the Gaul"?

Asterix The Gaul, aside from being a cartoon, is notoriously inaccurate
in it's portrayal of history. Also, its French.

>Druids existed all over europe,

Not all over Europe. There is a little evidence that suggests they
existed in some areas, but they were more secretive than here due to
persecution. Also, Stone Circles like Stonehenge are unique to the
British Isle. Some smaller circles do exist on the continent of Europe,
but they are few and far between.


--
Avenger
Message no. 9
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 22:56:12 +0000
In article <199703140242.MAA09825@*****.cynergy.com.au>, Ray & Tamara
<macey@*******.COM.AU> writes

(On Druids)
>I don't know that they should be able to operate outside of Britain and
>area. I thought that was almost what defined them
>
>Ray

Druids would appear to be primarily British (although a little evidence
stands that they also existed in Europe). However, as to operating
outside Britain, that's not a great problem. South America is a massive
network of ley lines, north America has a few, though they're deep, in
certain areas they surface (Indian sacred areas etc). No stone circles
though, so the greatest power would be denied a druid in America.


Oak is present in America, so a sacred grove should be possible, as is
mistletoe, one of the components for their magical powers, and a ritual
object. I seem to recall that Native Americans considered sme areas of
trees as sacred, as well as mysterious or "haunted".


Certain times of the year might be difficult for an immigrant Druid, as
they wouldn't be able to attend the rituals that are a part of their
path, and some of the rituals and higher magics would also be denied
them, but that's really a GM's call.


Otherwise, they can exist quite happily outside of the British Isles.

--
Avenger
Message no. 10
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 03:47:38 +0000
Further to the question about Druids in the UCAS, I thought the
following might be of interest to anyone considering the Druid as a
character.

For those who aren't interested, sorry for wasting your time and
bandwidth.


North America.

One of America's most impressive megalithic sites is Mystery hill in New
Hampshire, just outside of New Salem. The place is an anomoly in
American history and therefore the subject of much debate and
controversy. The site is comprised of a maze of mortarless walls and
standing stones four to five feet (1.2-1.5m) tall. The placement of the
walls hints that this may be the remnant of a much larger and complex
structure. It is known that farmers in the region used many of the
stones for the foundations of their homes, which means at least 40% of
the structure has been removed over the last century or so. There are
also large dolmen-like structures (a megalithic chamber made with three
or more vertical stones supporting a capstone), like the giant four and
a half ton slab known as the "Sacrificial Table".

The controversy arises in that the Indians *never* built anything like
this. The style and use of the stones cry out that there is an
incredible link to its and its cousins in England. Carbon dating has
been inconclusive, but megalith enthusiasts claim 2000 B.C., and carbon
dating of some of the fossil root samples tends to support that
assumption. The question arises as to who could have built it. Could
it be that prehistoric men braved the Atlantic to set foot on the new
world two thousand years before Columbus?

(Some observations by Victor Lazlo)
--- "I will not even attempt to guess at who the ancient architects were
nor how or when they got to North America. What I do know is this. The
structure predates the arrival of the Europeans to the Americas.
Meaning at best, it is several hundred years old if not thousands. It
is definately not of Indian manufacture and bears a remarkable
resemblance to the megaliths of England. I have it on good authority
that the "Sacrifical Table" rests exactly on a ley nexus point. The
place also seems to have a definate astronomical significance, measuring
both solar and lunar movement. Is it coincidence that the Salem witch
incidents occured in the area? I think not."
---

Indian Mounds.
The North American Indians were prodigious mound builders. not only did
they build hills, but moulded them into the liknesses of animals, called
effigy mounds. Effigy mounds are perfectly proportioned images of
animals measuring a few hundred feet to a thousand. Like the mounds of
Europe, the true purpose of the mounds is lost to antiquity. The lack
of artefacts around the mounds indicates that they were built, then
abandoned. hundreds of such mounds were scattered across the United
States and Canada, but most have been destroyed. Along the course of
the Mississippi, it is said that dozens of such mounds were found. In
fact, East St. Louis is built on the site of a strange pyramid that had
amazed early explorers.

The most famous, and one of the few preserved Indian effigy mounds is
the Great Serpent Mount of Adams County, Ohio. The coiled monster
stretches for a thousand feet (305m) and depicts a snake swallowing an
egg. Although there have been intermittent reports of swirling leaves
when there is no wind, and sudden feelings of dread or terror, the mound
is not known to be a place of paranormal activity.

(Observations by Victor Lazlo)
"I find myself obsessed with the Ohio Serpent Mound. Something about it
gnaws at me, drawing me back to it time and again. It has been guessed
that the mound is a thousand years old, maybe older; yet, as always, no
one knows why. One Indian tale speaks about how the worshippers of
reptiles were reduced by the fortunes of war. Defeated, they buried
their god and built the effigy mound over him. Another legend speaks of
magic and celestial powers. Most scholars agree of a serpent
swallowing an egg is an allusion to the moon. Universally, the coiled
serpent represents magic, as it probably does here as well. Yet, I can
find no mystic or historical significance. The mound is not on a ley
line nexus or even near a ley line. It is just a mound in the middle of
a forest. but it can't be. There is something important here. Some
link to magic I can not see, but I feel it. Perhaps it is the location
of a transitional place of magic. If this mystery can be solved, I will
solve it."
---

Desert Carvings.
Out west, the Mojave Desert is inscribed with over 270 geoglyphic
carvings of animals, humans and symbols. most of the carvings have been
only recently (since the 1970'2) been discovered. The oldest figure is
dated at 3000 B.C. and the most recent is about 300 years old. More
primitive configurations made of boulders to create abstract patterns
may be 10,000 years old.

According to Mojave Indian legend one of the drawings, a giant human
with a long tailed animal, is a depiction of an evil giant being driven
out of their land by the creator god. Others have mystical or spiritual
significance.

Another oddity are the "medicine wheels", as the Indians called them.
Giant circles marked in small stones, measuring 60-80 feet in diameter.
Historians guess that the 50 or so wheels found in the Big Horn
Mountains of Wyoming, and scattered across the plains of Arizona could
be as much as 1000 years old. Many of the wheels have rocky piles in
the centre and around the outer rim that mark the sunrise and sunset on
the day of the summer solstice.

In California's Death Valley, stones are known to move along in a
zigzag, rolling pattern, etching their trails behind them into the
parched earth. Of course, nobody ever sees the stones move, but they
do.


The Nazca Desert Carvings
The most famous of all desert carvings are the gargantuan, runway like
lines and figurines that measure hundreds of feet. Von Daniken
popularised the carvings when he suggested they might be landing markers
of ancient astronauts in his (comedy) Chariots of the Gods.

The spectacular markings are a complete mystery. nothing is known about
the people who carved them (no one even knows to whom to attribute the
arduous achievements), when or why. It is certain that they are at
least 700-1200 years old. No mystic properties have yet been attributed
to them.


(There are other mysteries of North America, and some very strange
things around the Indian nations, but enough space has been used here
already. -- DA)


Note: South America and parts of Mexico seem to have a wealth of hidden
histroy. The Aztec, Mayan and Inca cultures were all considerably
advanced and had accomplished the construction of spectacular
structures, cities, pyramids and other incredible edifices. Their lore
is rich with demons, gods and magic. Who can say what is yet to be
discovered.

(Further information on Mayan/Inca/Aztec culture, ley lines, magic and
myths are available.)

(Some information taken from "Beyond The Supernatural")



---
Well, I hope that was of interest to someone.

--
Avenger
Message no. 11
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:03:49 +1100
> > I would like to play a Druid, although I was wondering if you could have
> > a Druid's home circle in America. Is this possible seeing that the Ley
> > lines are supposed to go around the world, and that a group of Druids can
> > actually make thier own Ley lines
>
> I don't know that they should be able to operate outside of Britain and
> area. I thought that was almost what defined them

Then why are they in the Grimoire II - shouldn't they then only be in
the London sourcebook? It seems pretty silly to say "Here is a new type
of <...> you can play, but only if you're based in a small area of the
campaign world" (which is not an area that most groups are based in,
AFAIK).

Lady Jestyr

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http://jestyr.home.ml.org/
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Message no. 12
From: Midn Daniel O Fredrikson <m992148@****.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:12:37 -0500
> > > I would like to play a Druid, although I was wondering if you could have
> > > a Druid's home circle in America. Is this possible seeing that the Ley
> > > lines are supposed to go around the world, and that a group of Druids can
> > > actually make thier own Ley lines
> >
> > I don't know that they should be able to operate outside of Britain and
> > area. I thought that was almost what defined them
>
> Then why are they in the Grimoire II - shouldn't they then only be in
> the London sourcebook? It seems pretty silly to say "Here is a new type
> of <...> you can play, but only if you're based in a small area of the
> campaign world" (which is not an area that most groups are based in,
> AFAIK).

There is also a small but influencial group of druids in Tir Tangire.
Don't know where their home circle is though. I think the thing about
Ley lines in great britian is that the is a high concentration of them and
the druids have learned to use them. Question...what powers some of the
other forms of high-power magic. The Great Ghost dance is blood magic,
but what about the Wild Hunt or the magically induced reforestation in Tir
Tangire and Amazonia...
Message no. 13
From: Marc Morales <celte@*****.FR>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:13:44 +0100
At 10:56 PM 3/14/97 +0000, Avenger wrote:
>In article <199703140242.MAA09825@*****.cynergy.com.au>, Ray & Tamara
><macey@*******.COM.AU> writes
>
>(On Druids)
>>I don't know that they should be able to operate outside of Britain and
>>area. I thought that was almost what defined them
>>
>>Ray
>
>Druids would appear to be primarily British (although a little evidence
>stands that they also existed in Europe). However, as to operating
>outside Britain, that's not a great problem. South America is a massive
>network of ley lines, north America has a few, though they're deep, in
>certain areas they surface (Indian sacred areas etc). No stone circles
>though, so the greatest power would be denied a druid in America.
>
>
>Oak is present in America, so a sacred grove should be possible, as is
>mistletoe, one of the components for their magical powers, and a ritual
>object. I seem to recall that Native Americans considered sme areas of
>trees as sacred, as well as mysterious or "haunted".
>
>
>Certain times of the year might be difficult for an immigrant Druid, as
>they wouldn't be able to attend the rituals that are a part of their
>path, and some of the rituals and higher magics would also be denied
>them, but that's really a GM's call.
>
>
>Otherwise, they can exist quite happily outside of the British Isles.
>
>--
>Avenger
>
>
Druid were primarily European and at the end of the Celtic Era conquered the
British Isles.
They spread from Harz region in Germany, all over Europe, forming a spirale
doing so that led them in Asia Minor, West coasts of Europe and probably
further west as well.
_______________________________________________________________
Marc Morales celte@*****.fr
Dia Dhuit Uile
A Wolf can act but like a Wolf
_______________________________________________________________
Message no. 14
From: Marc Morales <celte@*****.FR>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:13:48 +0100
At 10:58 PM 3/14/97 +0000, Avenger wrote:

>
>Asterix The Gaul, aside from being a cartoon, is notoriously inaccurate
>in it's portrayal of history. Also, its French.
And what exactly is the problem with Asterix the Gaul being French??
>
>>Druids existed all over europe,
>
>Not all over Europe. There is a little evidence that suggests they
>existed in some areas, but they were more secretive than here due to
>persecution. Also, Stone Circles like Stonehenge are unique to the
>British Isle. Some smaller circles do exist on the continent of Europe,
>but they are few and far between.

Wrong. There are circles and standing stones all over Europe and maybe more
in France and Scandinavia than in The British Isles.

A very few areas don't show evidence of Celts presence in Europe...maybe the
" Pays Basque " and some little mountain zones, too isolated from the
mainland to be of some interest for the Celts conquerors.
_______________________________________________________________
Marc Morales celte@*****.fr
Dia Dhuit Uile
A Wolf can act but like a Wolf
_______________________________________________________________
Message no. 15
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 20:00:49 +0000
In article <1.5.4.16.19970316170925.1a1fe2a2@*****.fr>, Marc Morales
<celte@*****.FR> writes
>At 10:58 PM 3/14/97 +0000, Avenger wrote:
>
>>
>>Asterix The Gaul, aside from being a cartoon, is notoriously inaccurate
>>in it's portrayal of history. Also, its French.
>And what exactly is the problem with Asterix the Gaul being French??

Nothing at all, if he wasn't French he wouldn't be a Gaul... <g>

>
>Wrong. There are circles and standing stones all over Europe and maybe more
>in France and Scandinavia than in The British Isles.

Sorry, I can't find any archeological references to standing stones and
stone circles all over Europe. Only references to standing stones are
on the Indian continent, and only one site, all other megalithic sites
are either caves or tombs. Maybe you can enlighten me. :)

>A very few areas don't show evidence of Celts presence in Europe...maybe the
>" Pays Basque " and some little mountain zones, too isolated from the
>mainland to be of some interest for the Celts conquerors.

If you say so. But I'd like to see some data, either book references or
web sites please.


--
Avenger
Message no. 16
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:58:36 +0000
In article <1.5.4.16.19970316170921.1a1f6fca@*****.fr>, Marc Morales
<celte@*****.FR> writes
>At 10:56 PM 3/14/97 +0000, Avenger wrote:
>>In article <199703140242.MAA09825@*****.cynergy.com.au>, Ray & Tamara
>><macey@*******.COM.AU> writes
>>
>>(On Druids)
>>
>>Otherwise, they can exist quite happily outside of the British Isles.
>>
>>--
>>Avenger
>>
>>
>Druid were primarily European and at the end of the Celtic Era conquered the
>British Isles.

Not according to the information I have on hand at the moment, I'd
appreciate it if you give me some references for this information so I
can update my current notes and the stuff I have available to me.

There is information from Pictish as well as Welsh Celtic writings that
the Druids were here prior to European involvement, which was only heavy
during the Saxony period.

As regards European Celts invading and conquering Britatin I can find no
references at all to confirm this.

>They spread from Harz region in Germany, all over Europe, forming a spirale
>doing so that led them in Asia Minor, West coasts of Europe and probably
>further west as well.

Again, I'll not argue the point as I don't have any information to
confirm or deny this, I would appreciate it if you could refer me to
your sources. Thanks

Also, any information you have concerning stone circles in Europe would
also be of interest. I have information regarding the only megalithinc
circle in North America, and two in south America, and hundreds here in
Britain, but the only references I can find to megalithic sites in
Europe concerns tombs and caves, nothing on the "Druidical sites" such
as Stonehenge Glastenbury etc...

TIA



--
Avenger
Message no. 17
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 20:18:52 +0000
In article <1.5.4.16.19970316170921.1a1f6fca@*****.fr>, Marc Morales
<celte@*****.FR> writes
>At 10:56 PM 3/14/97 +0000, Avenger wrote:

>>Certain times of the year might be difficult for an immigrant Druid, as
>>they wouldn't be able to attend the rituals that are a part of their
>>path, and some of the rituals and higher magics would also be denied
>>them, but that's really a GM's call.
>>
>>
>>Otherwise, they can exist quite happily outside of the British Isles.

>Druid were primarily European and at the end of the Celtic Era conquered the
>British Isles.
>They spread from Harz region in Germany, all over Europe, forming a spirale
>doing so that led them in Asia Minor, West coasts of Europe and probably
>further west as well.

Further to your claim about Druids being European, you may be a teeny
bit confused between Celts and Druids.

Many academics believe that the ancestors of the Celts were the Proto-
Indo European culture who lived near the Black Sea circa 4000 BCE. Some
migrated in a South-Westerly direction to create the cultures of Thrace
and Greece; others moved North-West to form the Baltic, Celtic, Germanic
and Slavic cultures. Evidence of a Proto-Celtic Unetice or Urnfield
culture has been found in what is now Slovakia circa 1000 BCE. This
evolved into a group of loosely linked tribes which formed the Celtic
culture circa 800 BCE. By 450 BCE they had expanded into Spain; by 400
BCE they were in Northern Italy, and by 270 BCE, they had migrated into
Galatia (central Turkey). By 200 BCE, they had occupied the British
Isles, Brittany, much of modern France, Netherlands, Belgium, Germany
and Switzerland, North West Spain, and their isolated Galatia settlement
in Turkey.

There is no evidence to suggest that Druids originated in Europe and
"Invaded" anywhere, Druidism is a religion, not an armed force. <g>



--
Avenger
Message no. 18
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:20:46 +0000
|(Some observations by Victor Lazlo)

THE Victor Lazlo??????
He's still alive y'know... He just fell through a Rift into the future...
(He was really surprised to find someone had named a city after him....)

[Victor Lazlo is one of the NPCs from Beyond the Supernatural and Rifts]

I think Beyond could actually make a pretty good sourcebook for magical
sites and other transferable stuff.... Have to give it a look over....
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Message no. 19
From: Sebastien Comeau <grendel@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:27:44 -0500
Avenger wrote:>Asterix The Gaul, aside from being a cartoon, is notoriously
inaccurate
>in it's portrayal of history. Also, its French.
Actually, I think it's from Belgium and it's great in it's french form. For
the "inacurate portrayal of history", maybe it's due to the translation
because in french it's accurate enough.
>>Druids existed all over europe,
>
Avenger wrote:>Not all over Europe.
Druids can be found everywhere where cletics culture was established.

Grendel
Message no. 20
From: 'Spaceman' WD Lee <spaced@*.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 21:29:55 -0800
On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Spike wrote:
# THE Victor Lazlo??????
# He's still alive y'know... He just fell through a Rift into the future...
# (He was really surprised to find someone had named a city after him....)
#
Is this the same guy that's the french resistance leader in
Casablanca?

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Message no. 21
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:59:52 +0000
|
|On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Spike wrote:
|# THE Victor Lazlo??????
|# He's still alive y'know... He just fell through a Rift into the future...
|# (He was really surprised to find someone had named a city after him....)
|#
| Is this the same guy that's the french resistance leader in
|Casablanca?

If it's the bloke from Rifts, then yes....

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Message no. 22
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 03:42:06 +0000
In article <17568.199703170020@*****.teach.cs.keele.ac.uk>, Spike
<u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK> writes
>|(Some observations by Victor Lazlo)
>
>THE Victor Lazlo??????

Yes, "The Victor Lazlo"

>He's still alive y'know...

That's only a rumour.

>He just fell through a Rift into the future...

Or the past.

>(He was really surprised to find someone had named a city after him....)

Who wouldn't. Imagine _my_ surprise when I found a British company
named after me. I'm going to ask them why they didn't ask my permission
first.

>I think Beyond could actually make a pretty good sourcebook for magical
>sites and other transferable stuff.... Have to give it a look over....

A very good book indeed. :)

However, the information presented within the book is mostly verifiable
from present academic institutions. Rather nice to know a sourcebook
for a game is based on existing fact.


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Avenger
Message no. 23
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:11:12 +0000
|
|In article <17568.199703170020@*****.teach.cs.keele.ac.uk>, Spike
|<u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK> writes
|>|(Some observations by Victor Lazlo)
|>
|>THE Victor Lazlo??????
|
|Yes, "The Victor Lazlo"
|
|>He's still alive y'know...
|
|That's only a rumour.

No.. It's a fact... RIFTS Africa...

|>He just fell through a Rift into the future...
|
|Or the past.

Future.... Definately future....

|>(He was really surprised to find someone had named a city after him....)
|
|Who wouldn't. Imagine _my_ surprise when I found a British company
|named after me. I'm going to ask them why they didn't ask my permission
|first.

There's a company called Simms?
Or is it Avenger? If so, then I'm afraid there's a TV programme that beat
you to it as well....
(One of my faves in fact)
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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
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Message no. 24
From: Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Druids
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:19:28 GMT
Lady Jestyr writes
>
> Then why are they in the Grimoire II - shouldn't they then only be in
> the London sourcebook? It seems pretty silly to say "Here is a new type
> of <...> you can play, but only if you're based in a small area of the
> campaign world" (which is not an area that most groups are based in,
> AFAIK).
>
The stuff in GR2 was to bring them in line with SR2 rules, The London
soucebook being SR1. I haven't bothered to check what it was they had
to change but FASA said they were reworking them (see comments on
London sourcebook in the updates section of SR2)

Mark

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