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Message no. 1
From: The Digital Mage <mn3rge@****.AC.UK>
Subject: Dual smartlinks (was Re: Mixed Breeding)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:45:34 +0000
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Shawn Baumgartner wrote:

> foremost. I kinda like the concept with the dual smartlinks. Throw in
> the ambidexterity skill, buy him a Secure Cowboy Hat and a pair of
> Warhawks, and have him call everybody "Huckleberry" :)

I'd also invest in an encephalon to multi task those cognitive needs - it
can't be easy concentrating on two different smartlink cross hairs.

By the way, has anyone explained why smartlinks changed from first ed? In
1st ed they were a flashing crosshairs which went solid when the gun was
pointing in the same direction as the cross hairs, in 2nd ed the smartlink
has a spot which shows where the gun is currently pointing.

The 2nd ed version is better in that it allows people to make shots at
things in peripheral vision. The 1st ed would be easier to use though I
imagine as you can more naturally focus your vision on where you want to
hit and then wait for the cross hairs to stop flashing, rather than having
to line up the 'spot' of the gun's facing with where you are focusing.

The Digital Mage aka Grant Erswell - mn3rge@****.ac.uk
"Sadder still to watch it die, than never to have known it"
-Rush, Losing It
Message no. 2
From: "Simon T. Sailer" <Simon.Sailer@****.AC.AT>
Subject: Re: Dual smartlinks (was Re: Mixed Breeding)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:41:50 +0100
>I'd also invest in an encephalon to multi task those cognitive needs - it
>can't be easy concentrating on two different smartlink cross hairs.
>
>
> The Digital Mage aka Grant Erswell - mn3rge@****.ac.uk
> "Sadder still to watch it die, than never to have known it"
> -Rush, Losing It

BTW, could anybody please tell me how this multitasking thing is
supposed to work?

ss
Message no. 3
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Dual smartlinks (was Re: Mixed Breeding)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:15:48 +0100
The Digital Mage said on 22:45/ 5 Mar 97...

> The 2nd ed version is better in that it allows people to make shots at
> things in peripheral vision. The 1st ed would be easier to use though I
> imagine as you can more naturally focus your vision on where you want to
> hit and then wait for the cross hairs to stop flashing, rather than having
> to line up the 'spot' of the gun's facing with where you are focusing.

IMHO the second edition version would be easier to use, because a
flashing cursors seems more distracting to me than a solid one. OTOH
you'd probably focus your vision on the crosshair nearly automatically,
negating this problem instantly.

From a manufacturer's point of view, I'd say it's easier to make a system
that only needs to measure the gun's point of aim, rather than where both
the gun and the eye are pointing, and calculate the difference between the
two.

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Message no. 4
From: Tim Coxon <Tim.Ntoo@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Dual smartlinks (was Re: Mixed Breeding)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:01:03 -0000
> > foremost. I kinda like the concept with the dual smartlinks. Throw in
> > the ambidexterity skill, buy him a Secure Cowboy Hat and a pair of
> > Warhawks, and have him call everybody "Huckleberry" :)
HEY!!
That's My charcacter (nearly) He doesn't have dual Smartlinks but he does
have Congen Neural Bridge Level 6 (which publication was that from?) and he
has a habit of I quote "John Woo'ing"everything, He also wears a Stetson
and Duster with real dust, (check out the amoral campaign home page)...

well this is where I would have a sig but I just copied over my clipboard
and can't be bothered to find it again <gr>
Tim-Ntoo
Message no. 5
From: Tim Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Dual smartlinks (was Re: Mixed Breeding)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:54:48 -0800
On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, Simon T. Sailer wrote:

> >I'd also invest in an encephalon to multi task those cognitive needs - it
> >can't be easy concentrating on two different smartlink cross hairs.
> >
> >
> > The Digital Mage aka Grant Erswell - mn3rge@****.ac.uk
> > "Sadder still to watch it die, than never to have known it"
> > -Rush, Losing It
>
> BTW, could anybody please tell me how this multitasking thing is
> supposed to work?
>
> ss
>

Right now sit down and try concentrating on two separate things, like Oooh
say mentally run down the names and stats of all of your RPG characters,
and simultaineously calculate some complex equation as the variable goes
from 10 to 1 (f(10), f(9), f(8), f(7), etc..).

You shouldn't be able to do that..

With multi-tasking you could.

~Tim
Message no. 6
From: Ray & Tamara <macey@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Dual smartlinks (was Re: Mixed Breeding)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:53:13 +1000
>I'd also invest in an encephalon to multi task those cognitive needs - it
>can't be easy concentrating on two different smartlink cross hairs.

I allow my PC's to have two Smartgun Links, but they can only get the
benifits from both of them if they are pointing them at the one target. If
he tries to shoot to targets at once, the benifits instantly cancel out.

Ray
Message no. 7
From: Ray & Tamara <macey@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Dual smartlinks (was Re: Mixed Breeding)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:51:35 +1000
> >I'd also invest in an encephalon to multi task those cognitive needs -
it
> >can't be easy concentrating on two different smartlink cross hairs.
> >
> >
> > The Digital Mage aka Grant Erswell - mn3rge@****.ac.uk
> > "Sadder still to watch it die, than never to have known it"
> > -Rush, Losing It
>
> BTW, could anybody please tell me how this multitasking thing is
> supposed to work?

There are no official rules in any of the books as to how this works, but
it allows room for the GM to allow things like Twin Smartgun Links and the
like.

Ray
Message no. 8
From: "Simon T. Sailer" <Simon.Sailer@****.AC.AT>
Subject: Re: Dual smartlinks (was Re: Mixed Breeding)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 08:33:18 +0100
>Right now sit down and try concentrating on two separate things, like Oooh
>say mentally run down the names and stats of all of your RPG characters,
>and simultaineously calculate some complex equation as the variable goes
>from 10 to 1 (f(10), f(9), f(8), f(7), etc..).
>
>You shouldn't be able to do that..
>
>With multi-tasking you could.
>
> ~Tim

Thanks for the answer, but what you say does not make sense to me. Of
course you can't do the complex things you mentioned, but what I
meant was just to follow two dots in your field of vision and direct
them somewhere by moving your gun. Of course it's much harder to do
if you have to concentrate on TWO such dots, but that should be
covered by the +2 modifier for 'firing two guns'.
What I want to point out is that if you have two smartlinks and fire
two guns, it should be easier to fire two guns without any smartlink.
Maybe the sm's bonus should be halved, but it should not just
vanish.....IMHO...
ss
Message no. 9
From: Tim Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Dual smartlinks (was Re: Mixed Breeding)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:53:11 -0800
At 08:33 AM 3/7/97 +0100, you wrote:
>>Right now sit down and try concentrating on two separate things, like Oooh
>>say mentally run down the names and stats of all of your RPG characters,
>>and simultaineously calculate some complex equation as the variable goes
>>from 10 to 1 (f(10), f(9), f(8), f(7), etc..).
>>
>>You shouldn't be able to do that..
>>
>>With multi-tasking you could.
>>
>> ~Tim
>
>Thanks for the answer, but what you say does not make sense to me.

:)

>Of course you can't do the complex things you mentioned, but what I
>meant was just to follow two dots in your field of vision and direct
>them somewhere by moving your gun. Of course it's much harder to do
>if you have to concentrate on TWO such dots, but that should be
>covered by the +2 modifier for 'firing two guns'.

Well, that +2 modifier would apply to BOTH guns and eliminate any sort of
bonus that the Smart-link would provide, although I contend that having two
distinct cross-hairs (or dots..) moving around in your field of vision would
be a mite distracting BEYOND simply pointing two guns.. epsecially if you
try pointing them in two different directions.

Now if you had Multi-tasking... that would be a different story..

>What I want to point out is that if you have two smartlinks and fire
>two guns, it should be easier to fire two guns without any smartlink.

Huh? I don't follow your logic. Why should NOT having a smart-link be easier?

>Maybe the sm's bonus should be halved, but it should not just
>vanish.....IMHO...
> ss
>

~Tim
(Do me a favor and tell me if I'm sending anysort of weird stuff to the
list.. I just started using a new mailer and am still tinkering with settings.)
Message no. 10
From: The Digital Mage <mn3rge@****.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Dual smartlinks (was Re: Mixed Breeding)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:42:44 +0000
On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Simon T. Sailer wrote:

> What I want to point out is that if you have two smartlinks and fire
> two guns, it should be easier to fire two guns without any smartlink.
> Maybe the sm's bonus should be halved, but it should not just
> vanish.....IMHO...

In a Encounter in the old Sprawl Sites, an armourer invented a pair of
smart goggles which could process two smartlinks simultaneously,
unfortunately this gave a +1 TN due to the distracting nature of the two
crosshairs, maybe they should be colour coded - red crosshairs is left
hand, blue is right :)

The Digital Mage aka Grant Erswell - mn3rge@****.ac.uk
"Sadder still to watch it die, than never to have known it"
-Rush, Losing It
Message no. 11
From: "Simon T. Sailer" <Simon.Sailer@****.AC.AT>
Subject: Re: Dual smartlinks (was Re: Mixed Breeding)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:17:46 +0100
>>What I want to point out is that if you have two smartlinks and fire
>>two guns, it should be easier to fire two guns without any smartlink.
>
>Huh? I don't follow your logic. Why should NOT having a smart-link be easier?

There is no logic in that junk I wrote- put a 'than' between
'easier'and 'to'-than it should make sense


>
>>Maybe the sm's bonus should be halved, but it should not just
>>vanish.....IMHO...
>> ss
>>
>
>~Tim
>(Do me a favor and tell me if I'm sending anysort of weird stuff to the
>list.. I just started using a new mailer and am still tinkering with settings.)

no weired stuff here-

ss

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