| From: | "Mark Steedman" <M.J.Steedman@***.rgu.ac.uk> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: Dwarf : hiding immortals |
| Date: | Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:10:34 GMT |
> Joker said on 15:02/ 1 Oct 96...
>
> > One query..... When the magic ebbs, how and where do Immortal Elves
> > hide?? Especially if they assume such high profile positions as Leonardo Da
> > Vinci (according to the fiction).... Ther ears kind of give 'em away, and
> > I can't see them cropping them.
>
> Maybe the ears disappear when the mana level goes down? Or, after the
> 1960s, they could always claim to be from Vulcan :)
>
from readind the novels, esp worlds without end i get the immpression
that magic works if you are powerful but is scarce in the low mana
cycle. The immortals use the equivanlent of the physical mask spell
to alter their appearance and hide that way, yes they could cover day
to week variations(from wounds/black eyes etc.) sustaining it with ED
matrix/thread magic as opposed to having to quicken it in SR without
horrible karma costs.
> > More, where do the blood elves hide (see Earthdawn)... it's kind of hard
> > to hide thorns growing out of your skin. They are still around; I think
> > Jenna Ne'Faire (or similar) is the blood queen (Refer Tir tairngire and
> > other sourcebooks).
>
> The last time this was brought up :) some of us came to the conclusion
> that the amount of genetic research done in Tir Tairngire (see the
> sourcebook) is because they want to try and find a cure for the thorns.
> They only grow when the mana level is high enough, which it isn't in SR
> yet, and we can assume (if the genetic research is true) that magical
> attempts to remove them have failed, so now they're turning to science.
>
It would seem reasonable that at low enough magic levels the thorns
go away regardless, hence why no thorny elves in SR, but given enough
mana lots of are going to grow thorns, which will wreak havoc with
elven PR :)
> > Where do Dragons hide, too?? Dunkelzahn was obviously active
> > during the
> > downturn, ammassing a vast amount of wealth and influence.
>
> No idea.
>
I was under the immpression they had to sleep, some recent comments
about dragon stuff in the fifth world seems rather strange. The only
thing that might explain it (appart from slip ups by authors) is that
in ED there are some groups of name givers that work for dragons
(after all a dragon can be a very useful friend) and they might
therefore have left secret organisations, maybe headed by non-elf
immortals to run their estates while they slept. No proof but i don't
see how else all the comments fit.
> > P.S. Oh and yeah... Van Gogh had one ear..... Harlequin had one ear.. I
> > see a connection forming in my twisted little mind.
>
> I'll come barging in with my realism once more, but Van Gogh only cut off
> part of his ear, not the whole thing. It's suspected he had some disease
> which seems to (as I recall reading once) makes you hear a static noise
> continually. He probably thought that cutting off his ear might help...
>
Harlequin stuck his back on again, we only know about it from
'Harlequin', his picture on HB certainly has 2 ears if memory serves.
Mark
