Back to the main page

Mailing List Logs for ShadowRN

Message no. 1
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Elemental adept questions
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:28:18 +0100
Boyd Stephen Smith, Jr. said on 18:54/ 4 May 97...

> I have a question regarding Elemental Adepts.
> The Grimoire pg. 33:
> "The adept may only cast spells or conjure spirits
> associated with that element (for example, a fire adept
> may only cast elemental effect (fire) combat or damaging
> manipulation spells"
> Then, later:
> "Earth - Manipulation (Physical, matter-based only)
> Fire - Combat (any, as long as no other elemental
> effect other than fire is involved)"
> My question is can fire adept cast manipulation spells?

I'd say "no." It says fire adepts can only cast Combat spells in the
section of the book that describes what each spells adept can cast, and
Manipulation spells aren't Combat spells. Flamethrower and similar spells
are therefore out of the character's reach.

> Also, Could an Earth adept cast something like barrier. It
> is a physical spell but, in the description it says that the
> caster creates a field of crackling _energy_. Argh!

E=mc^2 :) Despite that, however, I wouldn't allow an earth adept to cast
Barrier -- it's not matter-based. The character could try and design a
spell that creates a brick wall out of thin air, though. Or perhaps forms
the nitrogen and oxygen molecules that are in the air into a solid wall,
since that's also manipulation of matter.

> To me, it seems like the first quote gives way to much
> power to fire adepts. DMs and combat - no way!
> And, like the second quote takes to much power from the
> Earth adept. My player wants to be an earth adept and I want
> it to be fun for him. How do you think (opinions) I should
> adjucate elemental adepts? Any tips.

It can be fun _without_ Barrier spell. It just means the character will
have to think of other solutions (the Shape Earth spell from Awakenings,
for example).

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
It's the story of how we run our lives.
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-

-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version 3.1:
GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+ PE
Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
Message no. 2
From: Gossamer <jrsnyder@********.WISC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Elemental adept questions
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:27:55 -0500
>I'd say "no." It says fire adepts can only cast Combat spells
>in the section of the book that describes what each spells
>adept can cast, and Manipulation spells aren't Combat spells.
>Flamethrower and similar spells are therefore out of the
>character's reach.

Disagree. It says, "The adept may only cast spells or conjure
spirits associated with that element (for example, a fire adept
may only cast elemental effect (fire) combat or damaging
manipulation spells, conjure fire elementals, and so on).

Then it goes on to say that an elementalist may cast spells
within their chosen area of influence.

So, I think that Flamethrower is specifically within the
reach of the Fire Elementalist.

Anyway, love,

Gossamer
Message no. 3
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Elemental adept questions
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 11:08:40 +0100
Gossamer said on 10:27/ 5 May 97...

> Disagree. It says, "The adept may only cast spells or conjure
> spirits associated with that element (for example, a fire adept
> may only cast elemental effect (fire) combat or damaging
> manipulation spells, conjure fire elementals, and so on).

I didn't read the text in question, so I was going by what was quoted, as
elemental adepts are not something I regularly use (gods, that sounds like
an excuse...) Reading it now, I agree that they can cast any spell using
the fire elemental effect, plus all Combat spells except those using
another elemental effect.

I think it's time I started re-reading all SR books I own, from the start
:)

> Anyway, love,

What's that? :)

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
It's the story of how we run our lives.
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-

-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version 3.1:
GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+ PE
Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

Further Reading

If you enjoyed reading about Elemental adept questions, you may also be interested in:

Disclaimer

These messages were posted a long time ago on a mailing list far, far away. The copyright to their contents probably lies with the original authors of the individual messages, but since they were published in an electronic forum that anyone could subscribe to, and the logs were available to subscribers and most likely non-subscribers as well, it's felt that re-publishing them here is a kind of public service.