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Message no. 1
From: Jamz Jamz@*********.Net
Subject: Elemental Combat Spells Gone??
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:17:51 -0500
I didn't pay much attention to this until MiTS came out and I was testing
the spell design rules with one of my older spells which was a Combat Spell
with Lightning side effects...

Is it just me or did they eliminate these??? In MiTS, you're only alowed to
take Elemental Effects for Manipulation Spells. I guess my Lightning Bolt
Spell just became a Powerbolt...

Peace,
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Message no. 2
From: Razors Edge. razrzedge@*****.com
Subject: Elemental Combat Spells Gone??
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 14:21:30 -0700 (PDT)
--- Jamz <Jamz@*********.Net> wrote:
> I didn't pay much attention to this until MiTS came
> out and I was testing
> the spell design rules with one of my older spells
> which was a Combat Spell
> with Lightning side effects...
>
> Is it just me or did they eliminate these??? In
> MiTS, you're only alowed to
> take Elemental Effects for Manipulation Spells. I
> guess my Lightning Bolt
> Spell just became a Powerbolt...


Spells now don't mix spell catagories. To me it makes
sense. Elemantal effects are manifested through,
elemental manipulation spells. It takes mana and
manifests an elemental effect. Combat spells take mana
and cause direct damage (physical or mana). Having a
combat spell with elemental effect is like having a
health spell that detects bullets.


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Message no. 3
From: Tarek Okail Tarek_Okail@**********.com
Subject: Elemental Combat Spells Gone??
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:09:21 -0400
Jamz--

>I guess my Lightning Bolt Spell just became a Powerbolt...

Actually, your Lightning Bolt combat spell just became the
Lightning Bolt elemental manipulation spell (SR3/BBB, p. 197). When
converting your spells, remember to keep the name, and change the
category if necessary. Read p. 324 in SR3/BBB to see a better
explanation.

Shadowmage
Message no. 4
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Elemental Combat Spells Gone??
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:58:39 EDT
In a message dated 5/30/1999 1:15:41 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
Jamz@*********.Net writes:

>
> Is it just me or did they eliminate these??? In MiTS, you're only alowed to
> take Elemental Effects for Manipulation Spells. I guess my Lightning Bolt
> Spell just became a Powerbolt...

IIRC, yes, that is correct. I guess I haven't paid that much attention to
that area of the spells, as to me and most of the group here, "Elementality"
has and always will be a Manipulation thing, not a "Combat Spell" thing.

-K
Message no. 5
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Elemental Combat Spells Gone??
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:29:25 +0200
According to Jamz, at 13:17 on 30 May 99, the word on
the street was...

> I didn't pay much attention to this until MiTS came out and I was testing
> the spell design rules with one of my older spells which was a Combat Spell
> with Lightning side effects...
>
> Is it just me or did they eliminate these??? In MiTS, you're only alowed to
> take Elemental Effects for Manipulation Spells. I guess my Lightning Bolt
> Spell just became a Powerbolt...

What you should do is re-design the same spell to be a manipulation spell;
FASA did this with all the combat spells that have elemental effects, like
Fireball. You'll likely end up with exactly the same Drain etc. so there
shouldn't really be a problem, unless of course you're a shaman who gets
extra dice for combat spells :)

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