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Message no. 1
From: Shawn Baumgartner <Breakdown@*****.NET>
Subject: E-mail
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:33:24 -0500
In response to the post on alternate e-mail ideas (I know, I know, I
didn't quote it!),

I'd love to, but WebTV=no hard drive=no downloading=Using this piece of
crap I've got now. I'll try to start writing down everything I respond
to and re-type it. Apologies to those whose various psychoses I may have
worsened. :-)

Shawn Baumgartner
Battling the evil forces of technology on a limited budget.
Message no. 2
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:42:09 -0500
>I'd love to, but WebTV=no hard drive=no downloading=Using this piece of
>crap I've got now. I'll try to start writing down everything I respond
>to and re-type it. Apologies to those whose various psychoses I may have
>worsened. :-)

And this, my friends, is why the Network Computer will never work.


>Shawn Baumgartner
>Battling the evil forces of technology on a limited budget.

Well Shawn, I sympathize. At least you have an excuse for your
actions...many don't. I don't know what the others say, but until you can
get a *real* machine, (or failing that, Windows 95) I'd be content with a
line like:

With regards to Gurth saying the carp shooter can only come in primary colors:

Which is enough to tell us what you are talking about.

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 3
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:09:40 -0500
At 04:33 PM 2/18/97 -0500, Shawn Baumgartner wrote these timeless words:
>In response to the post on alternate e-mail ideas (I know, I know, I
>didn't quote it!),
>
>I'd love to, but WebTV=no hard drive=no downloading=Using this piece of
>crap I've got now. I'll try to start writing down everything I respond
>to and re-type it. Apologies to those whose various psychoses I may have
>worsened. :-)
>
Your using WebTV for this? Cool...:)

I didn't realize you could do e-mail with it as well...

Of course, not being to download or save stuff kinda bytes, but...:)

Bull
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= chaos@*****.com =
= "Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours?" =
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"I finally find a guy I like, and you got to go and kill him!"
-Kom, "Outlanders"
Message no. 4
From: Caric <caric@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:23:16 -0700
> With regards to Gurth saying the carp shooter can only come in primary
colors:

Wow I was ripped off then. I got a carp shooter from a guy on a street
corner who said it was a Gurth original, but its a nice plaid design.


Caric-feeling-swindled-once-again
Message no. 5
From: Tim Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:16:41 -0800
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Shawn Baumgartner wrote:

> In response to the post on alternate e-mail ideas (I know, I know, I
> didn't quote it!),
>
> I'd love to, but WebTV=no hard drive=no downloading=Using this piece of
> crap I've got now. I'll try to start writing down everything I respond
> to and re-type it. Apologies to those whose various psychoses I may have
> worsened. :-)
>
> Shawn Baumgartner
> Battling the evil forces of technology on a limited budget.
>

Take your little WebTV browser over to www.hotmail.com
There you can sign up for a free web-based e-mail account.

It stores all the mail in their own system, and DOES NOT send html.
The only catch is that you have to access their webpage to get your mail,
which isn't much of a problem in you have internet access (which you would
else you wouldn't be getting this post).

A few friends of mine use it and are happy with it.
Look it up.

~Tim
Message no. 6
From: Czar Eggbert <czregbrt@*********.EDU>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:27:47 -0600
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Shawn Baumgartner wrote:

> In response to the post on alternate e-mail ideas (I know, I know, I
> didn't quote it!),
>
> I'd love to, but WebTV=no hard drive=no downloading=Using this piece of
> crap I've got now. I'll try to start writing down everything I respond
> to and re-type it. Apologies to those whose various psychoses I may have
> worsened. :-)
>
> Shawn Baumgartner
> Battling the evil forces of technology on a limited budget.
>

If you want to be able to quote and stuff get one of the free web
based e-mail accounts like Hotmail<www.hotmail.com>; only problem being
that they don't put any rush on getting your mail to it's box ;)

Czar-has-5-accounts-Eggbert


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Message no. 7
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 20:55:43 -0500
At 04:16 PM 2/18/97 -0800, Tim Cooper wrote these timeless words:
>Take your little WebTV browser over to www.hotmail.com
>There you can sign up for a free web-based e-mail account.
>
>It stores all the mail in their own system, and DOES NOT send html.
>The only catch is that you have to access their webpage to get your mail,
>which isn't much of a problem in you have internet access (which you would
>else you wouldn't be getting this post).
>
>A few friends of mine use it and are happy with it.
>Look it up.
>
That's a real good idea, Tim...

I've checked out Hotmail myself, and while it's not the greatest, it's
better than nothing...:)

Check it out, Shawn..:)

Bull
--
Now the Fearless Leader of the New Star Wars Mailing List!

=======================================================
= Bull, aka Chaos, aka Rak, aka Steven Ratkovich =
= chaos@*****.com =
= "Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours?" =
=======================================================

"I finally find a guy I like, and you got to go and kill him!"
-Kom, "Outlanders"
Message no. 8
From: Calvin Hsieh <u2172778@*******.ACSU.UNSW.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:23:43 +1100
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Shawn Baumgartner wrote:

> I'd love to, but WebTV=no hard drive=no downloading=Using this piece of
> crap I've got now. I'll try to start writing down everything I respond
> to and re-type it. Apologies to those whose various psychoses I may have
> worsened. :-)

I don't understand this. Is there some problem with WebTV that everyone
must make fun of it? I thought it was just a server. Can someone please
enlighten me!

Shaman

_________________________________________________________
In Real Life: Calvin Hsieh
In Neo-Arch Real Life: Shaman

Neurological problems 101:
Kluver-Bucy Syndrome.
Occurs with the bilateral removal of the temporal lobe,
including amygdala.
Symptoms: Overattentiveness, hyperorality, psychic
blindness, hypersexuality, absense of emotional response.
_________________________________________________________
Message no. 9
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:17:57 +0000
|Your using WebTV for this? Cool...:)
|
|I didn't realize you could do e-mail with it as well...
|
|Of course, not being to download or save stuff kinda bytes, but...:)

But?

The whole point of the WWW is being able to download stuff.....
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|Andrew Halliwell | |
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|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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Message no. 10
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:55:09 +0100
Shawn Baumgartner said on 16:33/18 Feb 97...

> In response to the post on alternate e-mail ideas (I know, I know, I
> didn't quote it!),
>
> I'd love to, but WebTV=no hard drive=no downloading=Using this piece of
> crap I've got now.

That sucks worse than having to use WP Office to read mail with...

> I'll try to start writing down everything I respond to and re-type it.

Sounds like an awful lot of work... You could just paraphrase it a bit,
like this:

[WebTV mailer not quoting]
I'd love to, but WebTV=no hard drive=no downloading=Using this piece of
crap I've got now. I'll try to start writing down everything I respond to
and re-type it. Apologies to those whose various psychoses I may have
worsened. :-)

That way, you can at least give the rest of the list some idea of what
you're going on about. Or get an account at a real provider :)

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Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
If you'll need me, I'll be nowhere.
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-

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Message no. 11
From: L Canthros <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:54:30 EST
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:33:24 -0500 Shawn Baumgartner
<Breakdown@*****.NET> writes:
>In response to the post on alternate e-mail ideas (I know, I know, I
>didn't quote it!),
>
>I'd love to, but WebTV=no hard drive=no downloading=Using this piece
>of
>crap I've got now. I'll try to start writing down everything I respond
>to and re-type it. Apologies to those whose various psychoses I may
>have
>worsened. :-)

Can you at least cut-and-paste it? That would at least be easier than
re-typing it every single time...

>
>Shawn Baumgartner
>Battling the evil forces of technology on a limited budget.
>
Or you could've gotten a cheap computer...:)

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let him prepare for war. lobo1@****.com
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Message no. 12
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:59:41 +0000
|
|On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Shawn Baumgartner wrote:
|
|> I'd love to, but WebTV=no hard drive=no downloading=Using this piece of
|> crap I've got now. I'll try to start writing down everything I respond
|> to and re-type it. Apologies to those whose various psychoses I may have
|> worsened. :-)
|
|I don't understand this. Is there some problem with WebTV that everyone
|must make fun of it? I thought it was just a server. Can someone please
|enlighten me!

2nd try......
From what I understand from what other people have been saying about it,
it's one of those dedicated internet boxes.

The only thing they're good for is web browsing.

Using them for anything else is useless (or close to).

(e.g. E-mail or usenet)

Think of netscrape without the functionality or option of loading
alternative software....

[correct me if I'm way off here.....]
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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
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Message no. 13
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:41:12 -0500
>I don't understand this. Is there some problem with WebTV that everyone
>must make fun of it? I thought it was just a server. Can someone please
>enlighten me!

It's a device that allows Web browsing with your television. Since it isn't
a real computer, you have no hard drive, and no capability to do about 90%
of the stuff possible.

On the other hand, it's cheap.

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 14
From: Tim P Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 19:41:32 EST
On Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:23:43 +1100 Calvin Hsieh writes:

>I don't understand this. Is there some problem with WebTV that everyone
>must make fun of it? I thought it was just a server. Can someone please
>enlighten me!
>
>Shaman
>

WebTV is the service that provides internet access through your TV... no
computer, no modem, no hard-drive, etc.. just (I think) a box and a
keyboard. While convienient for some people, it's a problem for any
serious user.

~Tim
Message no. 15
From: Shawn Baumgartner <Breakdown@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 19:54:39 -0500
Okay, appartantly I'm the only one using WebTV on this board, so I'll
set the skinny on it. It's this box which contains a modem and a little
cache memory (and of course the necessary gear to transmit comp. pics to
TV). It plugs directly into a phone line and AV cables to the TV. It's
Internet access ONLY. No games, no spreadsheets, no hard drive, so no
uploads or downloads. That means the browser and e-mail are only
upgraded when WebTV Networks decide to upgrade them. It's actually
fairly quick, and any moron can use it, but totally sucks to us
tech-junkies who love to upgrade everything on a weekly basis. But if
your a minimum wage-slave trying to cope with the bills, it's a fair
alternative until you can put together a computer of your own.
Message no. 16
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:48:24 -0500
>tech-junkies who love to upgrade everything on a weekly basis. But if

I prefer to be refered to as a "techno-weenie". "Pale Techno-weenie"
to be
formal about it.

-=SwiftOne=-

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