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Message no. 1
From: Jaster Jaster7663@****.com
Subject: EMP vs. Cyberware..
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:37:22 -0800
I dunno..maybe I'm stupid, or too new, and everyone already knows
this..but what on earth would happen to Mr. .0000024 essence Sammie,
decked with the latest cyberware and weapons, when he's hit by an EMP
(electro magnetic pulse..) blast/bomb/rocket/laser/sock whatever.. I
would just kill myself if this happened to my cute little
assassin..could anyone 'shed some light' on this mysterious topic for
me? Thanks again ^_^
-Jaster
Message no. 2
From: Nexx nexx@********.net
Subject: EMP vs. Cyberware..
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:21:34 -0600
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jaster" <Jaster7663@****.com>

> I dunno..maybe I'm stupid, or too new, and everyone already knows
> this..but what on earth would happen to Mr. .0000024 essence Sammie,
> decked with the latest cyberware and weapons, when he's hit by an EMP
> (electro magnetic pulse..) blast/bomb/rocket/laser/sock whatever.. I
> would just kill myself if this happened to my cute little
> assassin..could anyone 'shed some light' on this mysterious topic for
> me? Thanks again ^_^

Very little, unless he had mostly old/second-hand cyberware. Most
Cyberware, even by '51, was moving towards fiber optics (see PNAoNA if you
can, and look up the Lesser Thunderbird), and I imagine a large part of it
is there by the '60's.

OTOH, I did come up with a spell that would project a circular plane of
darkness... nothing major, but it would stop light traveling through it, and
would pass through a solid object, meaning optic cyberware would stop
functioning. Never put it to paper and stats, though.
Message no. 3
From: Josh a320@*********.com
Subject: EMP vs. Cyberware..
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:37:08 -0600
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jaster" >
> > I dunno..maybe I'm stupid, or too new, and everyone already knows
> > this..but what on earth would happen to Mr. .0000024 essence Sammie,
> > decked with the latest cyberware and weapons, when he's hit by an EMP
> > (electro magnetic pulse..) blast/bomb/rocket/laser/sock whatever.. I
> > would just kill myself if this happened to my cute little
> > assassin..could anyone 'shed some light' on this mysterious topic for
> > me? Thanks again ^_^
> Very little, unless he had mostly old/second-hand cyberware. Most
> Cyberware, even by '51, was moving towards fiber optics (see PNAoNA if you
> can, and look up the Lesser Thunderbird), and I imagine a large part of it
> is there by the '60's.

Man and Machine page 11.
Power Sources
"...Cyberware now runs on the natural neural bioelectricty that powers the
flesh body.
Even items that would seem to use more energy than the body can
produce, such as cyberlimbs or wired reflexes, can preforme at the leveles
they do because these superconductive pathways pick up boielectric current
ftom other parts of the body and instantenously feed it to the areas that
need the power."

So I'd say pretty much that an EMP would have little to no effect on a pice
of cyberware. Because it's bioelectricity I'd assume that a pulse wouldn't
shut it down because a human can take one and keep on tickin. But then again
we are talking about a piece of machinery, however it's still run off the
human body.... that's a tuffy. But I've had that come up in my game and I
don't let anything happen.

But that did make me come up with a question of my own. With a smartlink, is
there a power source in the gun or when the connection is made with the palm
decvice is there a power transfer? I'd assume the power transfre but you
know what they say about assuming....

>
> OTOH, I did come up with a spell that would project a circular plane of
> darkness... nothing major, but it would stop light traveling through it,
and
> would pass through a solid object, meaning optic cyberware would stop
> functioning. Never put it to paper and stats, though.

And THAT makes you an ass to any street samurai :)

When life gives you lemons, kick the crap out of it.
Message no. 4
From: Nexx nexx@********.net
Subject: EMP vs. Cyberware..
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:36:33 -0600
----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh"
> > OTOH, I did come up with a spell that would project a circular plane of
> > darkness... nothing major, but it would stop light traveling through it,
> and
> > would pass through a solid object, meaning optic cyberware would stop
> > functioning. Never put it to paper and stats, though.
>
> And THAT makes you an ass to any street samurai :)

Yeah, well, it was developed back in 2e, when the average sammy was going to
get 3-4 actions before my lonely little mage was going to get one... combine
an elemental effect like that with invisibility, however, and they're not
going to know what hit them until the manaballs start dropping...
Message no. 5
From: NeoJudas neojudas@******************.com
Subject: EMP vs. Cyberware..
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:58:03 -0500
From: "Josh" <a320@*********.com>
Subject: Re: EMP vs. Cyberware..


> Man and Machine page 11.
> Power Sources
> "...Cyberware now runs on the natural neural bioelectricty that powers the
> flesh body.
> Even items that would seem to use more energy than the body can
> produce, such as cyberlimbs or wired reflexes, can preforme at the leveles
> they do because these superconductive pathways pick up boielectric current
> ftom other parts of the body and instantenously feed it to the areas that
> need the power."
>
> So I'd say pretty much that an EMP would have little to no effect on a
pice
> of cyberware. Because it's bioelectricity I'd assume that a pulse wouldn't
> shut it down because a human can take one and keep on tickin. But then
again
> we are talking about a piece of machinery, however it's still run off the
> human body.... that's a tuffy. But I've had that come up in my game and I
> don't let anything happen.

Actually, if you read through that section carefully, you'll also note that
when the body is in "states of relaxation" the cyberware will also pick up
that extra bioelectricity and channel it to store for later usage.

Nice eh????

>
> But that did make me come up with a question of my own. With a smartlink,
is
> there a power source in the gun or when the connection is made with the
palm
> decvice is there a power transfer? I'd assume the power transfre but you
> know what they say about assuming....

I could look at this two ways personally.

A) The amount of power to run a Smartlink is measured in the ma or na scale
(micro or nan-ampules).

B) There is a battery source of some kind in the gun for the baser
functions.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
J. Keith Henry ("K" "NeoJudas")
THREEH.COM (www.threeh.com)
Hoosier Hacker House (www.hoosierhackerhouse.com)
Message no. 6
From: Sebastian Wiers m0ng005e@*****.com
Subject: EMP vs. Cyberware..
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:38:00 -0600
h:> > OTOH, I did come up with a spell that would project a circular plane
of
:> > darkness... nothing major, but it would stop light traveling through
it,
:> and
:> > would pass through a solid object, meaning optic cyberware would stop
:> > functioning. Never put it to paper and stats, though.
:>
:> And THAT makes you an ass to any street samurai :)
:
:Yeah, well, it was developed back in 2e, when the average sammy was going
to
:get 3-4 actions before my lonely little mage was going to get one...
combine
:an elemental effect like that with invisibility, however, and they're not
:going to know what hit them until the manaballs start dropping...

These days, it sems like the only "electronics" a street samurai would
want is smartlink, a datajack, and maybe skillwires. You can be tough fast,
and strong for a reasonable price without any resort to "electronic"
devices...

-mongoose
Message no. 7
From: Nexx nexx@********.net
Subject: EMP vs. Cyberware..
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:24:15 -0600
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sebastian Wiers

> These days, it sems like the only "electronics" a street samurai would
> want is smartlink, a datajack, and maybe skillwires. You can be tough
fast,
> and strong for a reasonable price without any resort to "electronic"
> devices...

And all those are going to be optical, anyway...
Message no. 8
From: George Waksman darklordsatin@*******.com
Subject: EMP vs. Cyberware..
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:32:00 -0500
>I dunno..maybe I'm stupid, or too new, and everyone already knows
>this..but what on earth would happen to Mr. .0000024 essence Sammie,
>decked with the latest cyberware and weapons, when he's hit by an EMP
>(electro magnetic pulse..) blast/bomb/rocket/laser/sock whatever.. I
>would just kill myself if this happened to my cute little
>assassin..could anyone 'shed some light' on this mysterious topic for
>me? Thanks again ^_^
> -Jaster

I think this may have come up before but I can't remember what was said then
so I'll just tell you my view on the matter.

The main concern is whether or not the electrical pulse is properly
grounded. EMP doesn't affect biological tissue because it doesn't ground out
through it, however metal is effected. Kind of like when you leave a fork in
something you microwave. I suspect that the cyberware is shielded well, but
it would still ground out EMP. Therefor I would suggest that for any EMP
attack on a person with cyberware you treat as a lightning bolt (spell) and
if you want to be special, you could ignore armor.

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