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Message no. 1
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Favorite Sourcebook (was [OT] Cybertorso)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:39:54 -0700
Gurth wrote:
/
/ David Buehrer said on 7:57/11 Dec 97...
/
/ > / 3. removeable plate(s) 1000-Y-
/ >
/ > "Bomb-bay doors open. Bombs away!"
/
/ Isn't that more useful for the back side? :)

Only if you're from Texas :)

Is it just me or are we starting to get bored? Somebody better
introduce a lively topic real soon or we'll find ourselves discussing
Grounding.

How about... which sourcebook is your favorite, and why?

-David
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Art is knowing which ones to keep."
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Message no. 2
From: Tony Rabiola <rabiola@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Favorite Sourcebook (was [OT] Cybertorso)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:48:59 -0600
On 12/11/97 13:39:54 you wrote:
>
>
>Is it just me or are we starting to get bored? Somebody better
>introduce a lively topic real soon or we'll find ourselves discussing
>Grounding.
>
>How about... which sourcebook is your favorite, and why?
>
Ok, ok, anything to help out. (grin)

I think THREATS is one of my most favorite; gives plenty of details on those organizations
and
things that have been lurking in the shadows for so many years.

Argent

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Message no. 3
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Favorite Sourcebook (was [OT] Cybertorso)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:01:44 -0500
On Thu, Dec 11, 1997 at 01:39:54PM -0700, David Buehrer wrote:
> Gurth wrote:
> /
> / David Buehrer said on 7:57/11 Dec 97...
> /
> / > / 3. removeable plate(s) 1000-Y-
> / >
> / > "Bomb-bay doors open. Bombs away!"
> /
> / Isn't that more useful for the back side? :)
>
> Only if you're from Texas :)
>
> Is it just me or are we starting to get bored? Somebody better
> introduce a lively topic real soon or we'll find ourselves discussing
> Grounding.
>
> How about... which sourcebook is your favorite, and why?
>
Heh..do we have to limit it to just one?!
At the moment I like CyberPirates more then any book I've
read inawhile. Beyond that possibly the LoneStar book or the Tir
books. Depends on whether you mean did I like it, or was it the
most useful to the game.


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Message no. 4
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Favorite Sourcebook (was [OT] Cybertorso)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:21:13 +0500
On 11 Dec 97 at 16:01, Lehlan Decker wrote:

> > How about... which sourcebook is your favorite, and why?
> >
> Heh..do we have to limit it to just one?!
> At the moment I like CyberPirates more then any book I've
> read inawhile. Beyond that possibly the LoneStar book or the Tir
> books. Depends on whether you mean did I like it, or was it the most
> useful to the game.

That is what I was wondering too, because I really liked Corporate
Shadowfiles, but is it useful to the game? Eh... sometimes. It really
doesn't have all that great an impact on a game for the most part,
IMHO. But it was a great read.

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Message no. 5
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Favorite Sourcebook (was [OT] Cybertorso)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:28:29 -0500
On Thu, Dec 11, 1997 at 04:21:13PM +0500, Drekhead wrote:
> On 11 Dec 97 at 16:01, Lehlan Decker wrote:
>
> > > How about... which sourcebook is your favorite, and why?
> > >
> > Heh..do we have to limit it to just one?!
> > At the moment I like CyberPirates more then any book I've
> > read inawhile. Beyond that possibly the LoneStar book or the Tir
> > books. Depends on whether you mean did I like it, or was it the most
> > useful to the game.
>
> That is what I was wondering too, because I really liked Corporate
> Shadowfiles, but is it useful to the game? Eh... sometimes. It really
> doesn't have all that great an impact on a game for the most part,
> IMHO. But it was a great read.
>
True. It was an excellent read, and I actually learned something
from it. (heh..impress the professors, I knew what arbitage(sp?)
was)
I hope the other corp books due out soon, keep a similiar feel.
Aztlan was also a fairly well done book.
Maybe we sould alter the thread and point out our least favorites.
The London Sourcebook was fair (IMHO), and the Corp Sec book was
marginal at best. (It did have some neat toys however).
The NAN books were good, but in retrospec, I would have enjoyed
more info, and no modules.
I don't have Threats yet. But I've heard it was well done.
Heh..my .02 cents worth, its late in the day and I'm babbling
again. A sure sign its almost quitting time.



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Message no. 6
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Favorite Sourcebook (was [OT] Cybertorso)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:48:45 -0700
Lehlan Decker wrote:
/
/ > How about... which sourcebook is your favorite, and why?
/
/ Depends on whether you mean did I like it, or was it the
/ most useful to the game.

The most useful sourcebook thread has been beaten to death over the
last couple of years. I know which sourcebooks are the most useful
for my campaign.

So, which sourcebook did you *like* the most?
:) And don't forget the "why?".

-David
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Art is knowing which ones to keep."
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Message no. 7
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Favorite Sourcebook (was [OT] Cybertorso)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:07:42 +0500
On 11 Dec 97 at 16:28, Lehlan Decker wrote:

> > On Thu, Dec 11, 1997 at 04:21:13PM +0500, Drekhead wrote:
> > That is what I was wondering too, because I really liked Corporate
> > Shadowfiles, but is it useful to the game? Eh... sometimes. It really
> > doesn't have all that great an impact on a game for the most part,
> > IMHO. But it was a great read.
> >
> True. It was an excellent read, and I actually learned something
> from it. (heh..impress the professors, I knew what arbitage(sp?)
> was) I hope the other corp books due out soon, keep a similiar feel.
> Aztlan was also a fairly well done book. Maybe we sould alter the
> thread and point out our least favorites.

I learned alot from Corporate Shadowfiles too, and from Shadowtech as
well.

My least favorite book was Sprawl Sites. What a waste.

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Message no. 8
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Favorite Sourcebook (was [OT] Cybertorso)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:22:28 EST
> How about... which sourcebook is your favorite, and why?
>
Now you've done it...

Either Shadowtech, cuz it's got the best in subtle 'wares,

Or VR 2, cuz deckers can now be players in a group.

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 9
From: Deosyne <deosyne@*********.NET>
Subject: Re: Favorite Sourcebook (was [OT] Cybertorso)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 22:32:45 -0500
> How about... which sourcebook is your favorite, and why?

Bug City. :) Had my best campaigns there. Denver boxed set gets a VERY
close second, though. True shadowrunning environment there, what with
FRFZ, nations, corps, and deckers of the world (via the Denver Data
Haven) all merging in one spot.

Shawn

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Message no. 10
From: Frank Pelletier <jeanpell@****.IVIC.QC.CA>
Subject: Re: Favorite Sourcebook (was [OT] Cybertorso)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:23:33 +0000
David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG> once wrote,

> How about... which sourcebook is your favorite, and why?
>
> -David

Hmm... personally, Corporate Shadowfiles. I always loved the tone, the
shadowtalk, and the accuracy. It's not really useful game-wise, but the
reading was great. Lone Star and the Tirs are close behind.

For usefulness, of course, nothing beats the Grimmy...

Trinity
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Trinity@********.com, jeanpell@****.qc.ca

"Life is a blur"
Message no. 11
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Favorite Sourcebook (was [OT] Cybertorso)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 09:12:18 -0500
On Thu, Dec 11, 1997 at 05:07:42PM +0500, Drekhead wrote:
> On 11 Dec 97 at 16:28, Lehlan Decker wrote:
>
> > > On Thu, Dec 11, 1997 at 04:21:13PM +0500, Drekhead wrote:
> > > That is what I was wondering too, because I really liked Corporate
> > > Shadowfiles, but is it useful to the game? Eh... sometimes. It really
> > > doesn't have all that great an impact on a game for the most part,
> > > IMHO. But it was a great read.
> > >
> > True. It was an excellent read, and I actually learned something
> > from it. (heh..impress the professors, I knew what arbitage(sp?)
> > was) I hope the other corp books due out soon, keep a similiar feel.
> > Aztlan was also a fairly well done book. Maybe we sould alter the
> > thread and point out our least favorites.
>
> I learned alot from Corporate Shadowfiles too, and from Shadowtech as
> well.
>
> My least favorite book was Sprawl Sites. What a waste.
>
In retrospect, yep. But at the time it showed me new buildings
I hadn't thought of, and several new archetypes.


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Message no. 12
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Favorite Sourcebook (was [OT] Cybertorso)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 07:43:02 -0700
David Buehrer wrote:
/
/ So, which sourcebook did you *like* the most?
/ :) And don't forget the "why?".

Time to answer my own question.

Okay, ready?...

My favorite sourcebook was the Rigger's Black Book. <waits while
everyone picks their jaws up off the floor>

The RBB was the first book to address vehicles. The BBB had a short
section on vehicle combat and a very short list of vehicles and a
couple paragraphs on modifying vehicles. This barely scratched the
surface, whereas the BBB went into far more depth on the other
aspects of Shadowrun (combat, magic, the matrix, guns, cyberware,
decks, spells, foci, critters, etc). The RBB was fresh out of the
box.

I sat down and read every vehicle description, got frustrated with
the vehicle combat rules, and then sat down with the vehicle
modification and design rules and had a blast making a van and drones
for my first rigger.

Sure, RBB had some problems, but it was fun :)

Close behind the RBB is Shadowtech. More cyberware, the introduction
of bioware, fun stuff (gotta love ruthenium) and I could understand
what they were talking about. It was both fun and educational.

-David
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