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Message no. 1
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Fields of Fire fumble rules (was Re: SR4 comments)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:13:37 +0200
According to Ubiquitous, on 06-04-2005 02:41 the word on the street was...

> As I remember it, only the dice rolled for your skill (not anything added)
> were counted.

No, the rule was simply that if a number of dice equal to your skill
came up as 1s, you fumbled. It didn't matter which dice rolled the 1s,
as long as you got a number equal to, or exceeding, your skill level,
you messed up.

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Message no. 2
From: loneeagle@********.co.uk (Lone Eagle)
Subject: Fields of Fire fumble rules (was Re: SR4 comments)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:27:03 +0100
At 10:13 AM 4/6/2005, Gurth wrote:
>According to Ubiquitous, on 06-04-2005 02:41 the word on the street was...
>
>>As I remember it, only the dice rolled for your skill (not anything added)
>>were counted.
>
>No, the rule was simply that if a number of dice equal to your skill came
>up as 1s, you fumbled. It didn't matter which dice rolled the 1s, as long
>as you got a number equal to, or exceeding, your skill level, you messed up.

We modified the fumble rule to cover skill dice only (or attribute dice if
defaulting), I had bought (IIRC) one hundred gross of six siders a little
before I was able to institute a "One colour per pool and one for
everything else" rule - each player getting a number of red dice equal to
their combat pool, a number of black dice equal to their rigging pool, a
number of white dice equal to their sorcery pool...etc and a dozen dice to
roll their skills...etc. Every dice of combat pool you used was therefore a
different dice and you discarded it when used and put your discarded dice
back into your "pot" when dice pools refreshed.
It was therefore easy to see when all of the skill dice had come up ones...


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Message no. 3
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Fields of Fire fumble rules (was Re: SR4 comments)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:19:52 +0200
According to Lone Eagle, on 06-04-2005 20:27 the word on the street was...

> each player getting a number of red dice equal
> to their combat pool, a number of black dice equal to their rigging
> pool, a number of white dice equal to their sorcery pool...etc and a
> dozen dice to roll their skills...etc.

My group takes a slightly more practical approach by having just two
colors of dice on the table: white for the skill/attribute/whatever, and
green for pool dice. The only time this doesn't work 100% well is if
someone rolls the green dice for skill and the white for pool and
doesn't mention this beforehand.

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Message no. 4
From: zebulingod@*******.net (Zebulin)
Subject: Fields of Fire fumble rules (was Re: SR4 comments)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:34:58 -0700
Gurth wrote:
>
> My group takes a slightly more practical approach by having
> just two colors of dice on the table: white for the
> skill/attribute/whatever, and green for pool dice. The only
> time this doesn't work 100% well is if someone rolls the
> green dice for skill and the white for pool and doesn't
> mention this beforehand.
>

I use a similar approach in that each player has two colors of dice. Their
diceblock and my red & black for pool. That way, there's no mistakes.

(I've found that when they try to tell me they meant the red for skill and
theirs for pool, it's after the roll and because the pool dice rolled well.)

Zebulin

>From The Top 100 Things I'd Do
If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord

15. I will never employ any device with a digital countdown. If I find that
such a device is absolutely unavoidable, I will set it to activate when the
counter reaches 117 and the hero is just putting his plan into operation.
Message no. 5
From: scott@**********.com (Scott Harrison)
Subject: Fields of Fire fumble rules (was Re: SR4 comments)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:33:14 +0200
On Apr 7, 2005, at 16:34, Zebulin wrote:

> Gurth wrote:
>>
>> My group takes a slightly more practical approach by having
>> just two colors of dice on the table: white for the
>> skill/attribute/whatever, and green for pool dice. The only
>> time this doesn't work 100% well is if someone rolls the
>> green dice for skill and the white for pool and doesn't
>> mention this beforehand.
>>
>
> I use a similar approach in that each player has two colors of dice.
> Their
> diceblock and my red & black for pool. That way, there's no mistakes.
>
> (I've found that when they try to tell me they meant the red for skill
> and
> theirs for pool, it's after the roll and because the pool dice rolled
> well.)
>
And for those lucky enough to use the SRDiceRoller, each of the rolls
is marked whether it came from the pool. And the pool is reduced by
the dice used -- so no losing track of how many are left in the pool.
:-)

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Message no. 6
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Fields of Fire fumble rules (was Re: SR4 comments)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:08:53 +0200
According to Zebulin, on 07-04-2005 16:34 the word on the street was...

> (I've found that when they try to tell me they meant the red for skill and
> theirs for pool, it's after the roll and because the pool dice rolled well.)

Yes, that's what I try to enforce, too, but there's always _someone_ who
will claim to "always roll green dice for skill!" Usually when this
comes up it's not an issue because they're not rolling as many pool dice
as they are skill dice, but it does cause the occasional bit of confusion.

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