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From:	Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: Filmography [Was Sick thing to do to a dead Runner.]
Date:	Tue, 2 Jun 1998 21:33:04 -0500

Message no. 1 On Sat, 30 May 1998 16:03:58 +1000 Lady Jestyr
<jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU> writes:
>> What films does everyone include on their list of Shadowrun films? The
>> top one on my list is the very first Die Hard movie. In fact, I put it
>> on during the character creation session if I'm introducing any
>> newbies to the game. The bad guys in Die Hard a good example of how
>> runners do what they do.

>I have a web page with this very theme (reachable from my SR page,
>http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr/sr.html) but basically, here are my
>picks:
>
<SNIP Other Movies :)>
>
> Johnny Mnemonic
>- It may not be authentic Gibson, but it's a good world view.
>- He's an archetypal shadowrunner
>- A view of the Matrix
>- The perils of crossing organised crime syndicates
>- A view of cyber/bioware

Also
- Artificial Intelligence
- Cyber side effects: NAS aka the balack shakes (kind of like CRS or
Cyberpsychosis)
- Lotechs were very Tribal
BTW, don't believe what the SPyder guy says because he's o/~ A LIAR!! o/~
;)

Hey ... that makes me think ... Henry Rollins Band would prabably make
good Background music ... :)

<SNIP more movies :)>
>
>Lady Jestyr
<SNIP Sig>

As if on cue, Fox has decided to air Shadowrunnish movies ... today was
Johnny Mneumonic (Good movie, but Keanu was the ussual dead fish),
tommorow will be The Net and next Tuesday will be Desparado. The Net
probaby is good for showing how deckers can screw your world over (though
Hackers is better for that) ... I'll probably just watch it until I grow
bored :) Desparado just plain looks cool ... prabably a good reference
`tude :)

Hmmmm... the net may also be a good reference for life without a SIN...

D.Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum, and RuPixel)
"Let he who is without SIN cast the first stone"

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From:	Paul Gettle <pgettle@********.NET>
Subject:	Re: Filmography [Was Sick thing to do to a dead Runner.]
Date:	Tue, 2 Jun 1998 23:12:56 -0400

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At 09:33 PM 6/2/98 -0500, D.Ghost wrote:
>Desparado just plain looks cool

Yeah. Don't let your players get ideas from it though. the last thing
we need are runners going around downtown with their missile launchers
concealed in cello cases.

And if you like Desperado, it's actually a sequel to one of Robert
Rodriguez's earlier films, El Maraichi. It was originally in Spanish,
but you should be able to find versions either subtitled or dubbed
into English (and other languages, I presume). For a film that only
cost $7,000 US to make, it's amazingly good.

For some reason, many of my favorite directors seem to start out with
very low budget films, and then Hollywood sees how good they do, give
them a decent budget to play with. Kevin Smith (Clerks), Robert
Rodriguez (El Maraichi), Quentin Tarantino (Reservoir Dogs) all got
their directorial start this way.

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From:	Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: Filmography [Was Sick thing to do to a dead Runner.]
Date:	Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:19:14 -0400

Message no. 3 At 11:12 PM 6/2/98 -0400, you wrote:

>>Desparado just plain looks cool
>
>Yeah. Don't let your players get ideas from it though. the last thing
>we need are runners going around downtown with their missile launchers
>concealed in cello cases.

Well, we've all heard the stories of mob hitters concealing tommy guns in
violin cases...

>And if you like Desperado, it's actually a sequel to one of Robert
>Rodriguez's earlier films, El Maraichi. It was originally in Spanish,
>but you should be able to find versions either subtitled or dubbed
>into English (and other languages, I presume). For a film that only
>cost $7,000 US to make, it's amazingly good.

Very good film. Robert maxed out all his credit cards, borrowed money from
his family, had his mom work (for free) as the films caterer, and so on.

Took an enormous risk and it payed off.

You'll notice that one of the "other" mariachis that came to help Antonio
Banderas is the original El Mariachi. I can't remember which one he was
though; I think he had the machine guns.

>For some reason, many of my favorite directors seem to start out with
>very low budget films, and then Hollywood sees how good they do, give
>them a decent budget to play with. Kevin Smith (Clerks), Robert
>Rodriguez (El Maraichi), Quentin Tarantino (Reservoir Dogs) all got
>their directorial start this way.

And after making outstanding low-budget films, they go on to make some
crappy Hollywood films (Mall Rats? From Dusk till Dawn? and Quentin
thinks he's an actor now...).

Anyway.

I find that making references to certain films, like Bladerunner, are the
easiest way to explain to new and inexperienced SR players what the game is
like, what it's about. If they've seen Bladerunner, Heat and something
else like any 007 film, The Saint, or Hackers, they've at least got a place
to start.

Erik J.

"Forgive me FASA for I have sinned. It has been 6 days since I last played
Shadowrun and 15 days since I last bought a SRTCG booster pack."

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