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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Ron Clark)
Subject: Firearm Conversion Kits and Rigger 3
Date: Mon May 14 00:00:01 2001
I've been modifying a couple vehicles I'm running in a current campaign
from Rigger 2 to Rigger 3 rules. The one thing I've run into that I can't
seem to find is the information regarding the firearm conversion kit, like
how much is it in addition to weapon cost, load increase, availability,
etc. Am I just missing it somewhere or did they leave it out.

Thanks

Ron Clark
Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Damion Milliken)
Subject: Firearm Conversion Kits and Rigger 3
Date: Mon May 14 00:45:01 2001
Ron Clark writes:

> I've been modifying a couple vehicles I'm running in a current campaign
> from Rigger 2 to Rigger 3 rules. The one thing I've run into that I can't
> seem to find is the information regarding the firearm conversion kit, like
> how much is it in addition to weapon cost, load increase, availability,
> etc. Am I just missing it somewhere or did they leave it out.

I noticed this too. There's a mention on what needs to be done on p. 136 of
R3. However, that's the requirements for modifying existing weapons, the
gear needed, and the time and skill required. I guess that you just have to
know somebody who can do it for you. OTOH, this makes it difficult to
determine costs for starting characters.

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Damion Milliken University of Wollongong
Unofficial Shadowrun Guru E-mail: dam01@***.edu.au
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Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: Firearm Conversion Kits and Rigger 3
Date: Mon May 14 06:50:01 2001
According to Ron Clark, on Mon, 14 May 2001 the word on the street was...

> I've been modifying a couple vehicles I'm running in a current campaign
> from Rigger 2 to Rigger 3 rules. The one thing I've run into that I can't
> seem to find is the information regarding the firearm conversion kit, like
> how much is it in addition to weapon cost, load increase, availability,
> etc. Am I just missing it somewhere or did they leave it out.

It's in Rigger 3, on page 136 in the left-hand column, but it doesn't seem
to have a cost anymore. All that's involved is rolling a test.

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Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Jeffery Green)
Subject: Firearm Conversion Kits and Rigger 3
Date: Mon May 14 21:50:02 2001
--- Gurth <Gurth@******.nl> wrote:
> According to Ron Clark, on Mon, 14 May 2001 the word
> on the street was...
>
>> The one thing I've run into that I can't
>> seem to find is the information regarding the
>> firearm conversion kit, like how much is it in
>> addition to weapon cost, load increase,
>>availability, etc.

> It's in Rigger 3, on page 136 in the left-hand
> column, but it doesn't seem
> to have a cost anymore. All that's involved is
> rolling a test.
>
> --
> Gurth@******.nl -


I have a quick question about this. Can you increase
a weapons ammo and by how much? Where can you find
this if it is written?

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Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Damion Milliken)
Subject: Firearm Conversion Kits and Rigger 3
Date: Tue May 15 04:55:06 2001
Jeffery Green writes:

> I have a quick question about this. Can you increase a weapons ammo and
> by how much? Where can you find this if it is written?

On p. 135 of R3, under the heading Ammunition Bins, you'll probably find all
that you need. In short, when you first place a weapon in a mount, it has
an ammo capacity equal to twice it's normal capacity. For every 0.2 CF you
allocate to ammo, you get LOTS more rounds (2000 for anything LMG sized or
smaller, 200 for anything machine gun sized, and 20 for anything BIG ARSED).

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Damion Milliken University of Wollongong
Unofficial Shadowrun Guru E-mail: dam01@***.edu.au
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Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: Firearm Conversion Kits and Rigger 3
Date: Tue May 15 06:20:13 2001
According to Jeffery Green, on Tue, 15 May 2001 the word on the street was...

> I have a quick question about this. Can you increase
> a weapons ammo and by how much? Where can you find
> this if it is written?

The only by the book (BTB) way of doing this is to use the firearms
construction rules in Cannon Companion. For a clip-fed weapon you'll want
the Extended Clip modification on page 81, while for all others (except
belt-fed weapons, of course) you'll have to totally rebuild the weapon to
incorporate the larger ammo capacity.

What this means is that you'll want to put only belt-fed weapons in
vehicles unless you have no other choice :) To see how much ammo these can
have available, read the Ammunition Bins section on page 135 of Rigger 3.
(Although I must add that whoever thought up those numbers hasn't thought
it through very well. 2000 rounds in 0.2 CF is too much -- at an estimate,
I'd say 5000 rounds per CF is a more realistic figure, but we're stuck with
these numbers :)

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If there are vegetarian hamburgers, why isn't there beef lettuce?
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
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