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From:	Nimster nimster@*********.net.il
Subject:	[FIX] Playing Shadowrun vs. Playing in Shadowrun
Date:	Sat, 6 Jan 2001 16:39:28 +0200

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Sorry, I clicked Alt+S cause I'm used to ICQ... ]8]

Anyhow, the question was: Ever played non-shadowrunners in the world of Shadowrun?
How was it? what did you play?
How far from the shadows were they? Mafia, for example, is not that far from playing a
shadowrunner. Playing a part of some secret society moving the world (like I'm going to
run) is somewhere in the middle slightly closer to the shadow world. Playing a wage slave
is as far from the shadows as heaven is from hell.
Haev you any tips, common pitfalls, etc. to share?

Thanks,

-Nimster
"What's your favorite color?"
"That would be #0FE5F2"
I have invented a new smiley: O-{] . That's a happy mustached big eyed robot cyclop

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<DIV><FONT size=2>Sorry, I clicked Alt+S cause I'm used to ICQ...
]8]</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Anyhow, the question was: Ever played non-shadowrunners
in the
world of Shadowrun?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>How was it? what did you play?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>How far from the shadows were they? Mafia, for example,
is not
that far from playing a shadowrunner. Playing a part of some secret society
moving the world (like I'm going to run) is somewhere in the middle slightly
closer to the shadow world. Playing a wage slave is as far from the shadows as
heaven is from hell.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Haev you any tips, common pitfalls, etc. to
share?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>-Nimster<BR>"What's your favorite
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#0FE5F2"<BR>I have invented a new smiley:  O-{] . That's a happy
mustached
big eyed robot cyclop</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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From:	Andrew Murdoch toreador@***.bc.ca
Subject:	[FIX] Playing Shadowrun vs. Playing in Shadowrun
Date:	Sat, 6 Jan 2001 12:08:12 -0800 (PST)

Message no. 2 - Nimster <16:39/6-Jan-2001>

> Anyhow, the question was: Ever played non-shadowrunners in the world
> of Shadowrun? How was it? what did you play? How far from the shadows
> were they? Mafia, for example, is not that far from playing a
> shadowrunner. Playing a part of some secret society moving the world
> (like I'm going to run) is somewhere in the middle slightly closer to
> the shadow world. Playing a wage slave is as far from the shadows as
> heaven is from hell. Haev you any tips, common pitfalls, etc. to
> share?

One of my GMs (Hi, Dvixen!) started all the characters out as small corp
wage slaves. As a player, I found I had to adjust my way of thinking from
that of a Shadowrunner, to that of... myself in real life. Our characters'
first real experience with the shadows, (besides being opposed to them, as
we were in a security branch of the corp) was when our GM put us through
the ever-popular Stuffer Shack scenario. So there we were, Joe Average
Citizens, no guns, getting our clocks cleaned. Afterwards, when we were
surveying the damage (like, one of our characters had, from a gunshot
wound), it took me quite some time of my character driving around,
wondering what to do, before I realized that, yes, we were legal citizens
with System Identification Numbers, and corporate medical plans, and that,
rather than looking for quieter options, I should just drive to the
nearest frigging hospital.

We oursleves got dragged into shadowrunning, eventually, when a group of
runners found out we had a lot of shadow-applicable skills and had lost
our jobs.

--
Hail, Centurion!
Andrew C. Murdoch
toreador@***.bc.ca
http://members.nbci.com/corvisraven

From:	Augustus shadowrun@********.net
Subject:	[FIX] Playing Shadowrun vs. Playing in Shadowrun
Date:	Sat, 6 Jan 2001 13:44:36 -0800

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From: Nimster

Anyhow, the question was: Ever played non-shadowrunners in the world of
Shadowrun?
How was it? what did you play?
Haev you any tips, common pitfalls, etc. to share?
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As a GM, I've run:
-A gang campaign
-A prison campaign
-A mafia campaign
-A corporate strike team campaign
-A government "secret agent" type campaign

They were all pretty good... players really liked them. I did alot of prep
work on them... changing character generation and skill availability, etc

Anyhow... biggest thing I would suggest is... be prepared. In shadowrun its
easy to go on the fly and pick a basic adventure concept like "steal paydata
x from corp y" if your mind is drawing a blank on a run...

But, adventures like that might come up in a mafia campaign... to keep with
the flavour, they should be few and far between (otherwise you are just
playing "Shadowrunner with a patron and a set of rules I have to follow")

So I'd suggest that you decide where the campaign will go from the start...
come up with 10-20 brainstormed adventure/run/mission ideas.

And you want to be prepared with any special rules you might need to create.
if you are running a mafia or gang campaign... then you are probably going
to need to come up with your own rules on things like "How much the book on
3rd street takes in per week" and "How much of a cut the Don wants, and how
much we report in, and wether or not he'll find out"

Your players might want details too... if they are a gang campaign and can't
afford the gear to cut BTL chips, they might wanna go into making street
drugs... so you might wanna look up on the net for the basics of setting up
this kinda operation... so you get an idea how how much it costs to do it,
and what they need to make the stuff.

I mainly mention these two types of campaigns, because they are probably the
most different from the others... they are very reactionary style games (ie:
the players react to situations you, as the GM come up with... they don't
regularily go on missions or runs... usually they chase down rivals, protect
turf, track down deadbeets who owe too much to an operation, make examples
of people, collect protection, etc).

But they also require the most asset management of any of the gaming styles
above too... (and same might go for the type of game you are thinking of
running). Depending on how 'high up' in the food chain the PCs are, they
might have operations under them that they have to manage (and my PCs loved
all the book keeping of this stuff... but yours might not)

Augustus

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