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Message no. 1
From: Matt Lee <mattlee@******.COM>
Subject: Flamethrowers(Not the spell)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:15:32 -0600
I'm wondering if there are any flamethrowers in any official FASA material.
I have seen a few on various web pages and such but never in any fasa
product, dispite the fact that they have mentioned them (example: thing
about the halloweeners and their leader I think in the SR Companion, they
say he likes to torch people and show a picture of him with a
Flamethrower). I'm pretty sure there aren't but there are a fair amount of
books I don't have so if someone knows that the FASA stats are out here let
me know, otherwise please give me the URL of a site with a well made
substitute. THanks.


Matt
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may die." - Necronomicon [H.P. Lovecraft]
Message no. 2
From: MC23 <mc23@****.NET>
Subject: Re: Flamethrowers(Not the spell)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:12:30 -0500
Matt Lee wrote,
>I'm wondering if there are any flamethrowers in any official FASA material.
<snip>

There's the spell Flamethrower. That gives you all the information
about game effects except what would be a proper strength of the mundane
flamethrower. I've never heard a consensus on what to use for that though.


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Message no. 3
From: Matt Lee <mattlee@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Flamethrowers(Not the spell)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:59:55 -0600
> There's the spell Flamethrower. That gives you all the information
>about game effects except what would be a proper strength of the mundane
>flamethrower. I've never heard a consensus on what to use for that though.

Yes, this is why the topic is (Not the Spell), but you do raise a good
point. I think the best way to run a flamethrower would be to decide
ammo(how many shots from 1 tank) and concealability(yeah right) and range
and then use the damage from the flamethrower spell with fire elemental
effect. Also probably use Shotgun spread table with a pre-set choke #.


Matt
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Message no. 4
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Flamethrowers(Not the spell)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:23:27 -0500
>I'm wondering if there are any flamethrowers in any official FASA material.
>I have seen a few on various web pages and such but never in any fasa
>product, dispite the fact that they have mentioned them (example: thing

The general attitude I've heard about flamethrowers is that they increase
the mortality rate WAY too much. (player and NPC alike)

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 5
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Flamethrowers(Not the spell)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 13:57:20 +1000
> >I'm wondering if there are any flamethrowers in any official FASA material.
> >I have seen a few on various web pages and such but never in any fasa
> >product, dispite the fact that they have mentioned them (example: thing
>
> The general attitude I've heard about flamethrowers is that they increase
> the mortality rate WAY too much. (player and NPC alike)
>

And that's a bad thing?? *evil grin*

Sometimes it's really hard to scare players without nuking their
characters outright.

Flamethrowers usually scare the drek out of people, though.

Hmmm, and now for my next run...... watch me pull a flamethrower out of
this hat!

(I think the rest of my group are running right now)

Bleach
Message no. 6
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Flamethrowers(Not the spell)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 23:02:48 EST
To: martin E. Gotthard
>And that's a bad thing?? *evil grin*
---
You know, Sadism seems to be a quality most GM's express vividly

>Sometimes it's really hard to scare players without nuking their
>characters outright.
----
I can agree with you on this one tho. It seems that It's kinda hard to
kill a Dragon without using his own medicine.

>Hmmm, and now for my next run...... watch me pull a flamethrower out
>of
>this hat!
-----
Maybe You could call yourself David Copperfield the GM. "And now, here's
a Panther Cannon, right up my sleeve, ha!"



Gweedo the Killer Pimp strikes again!
Message no. 7
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Flamethrowers(Not the spell)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 02:33:12 -0500
At 11:02 PM 2/28/97 EST, Gweedo The Killer Pimp wrote these timeless words:
>To: martin E. Gotthard
>>And that's a bad thing?? *evil grin*
>---
>You know, Sadism seems to be a quality most GM's express vividly
>
It's in our contracts... If you let your players off too easy, or let them
become munchies, you get your GM license taken away by the gaming police...

What... You didn't read the pamphlet?? Damn... Watch out for the flasing
lights and the red dot on your forhead...

>>Sometimes it's really hard to scare players without nuking their
>>characters outright.
>----
>I can agree with you on this one tho. It seems that It's kinda hard to
>kill a Dragon without using his own medicine.
>
<Bul;l shakes his head>

If a [player want to play a dragon, they should have to deal with the other
dragons... ie, Lofwyrm, etc...

>>Hmmm, and now for my next run...... watch me pull a flamethrower out
>>of
>>this hat!
>-----
>Maybe You could call yourself David Copperfield the GM. "And now, here's
>a Panther Cannon, right up my sleeve, ha!"
>
If you can hide a Panther up your sleeve, you're REALLY abusing the
concealibility rules...:):):)

Bull
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Message no. 8
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Flamethrowers(Not the spell)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 00:40:08 EST
To: Bull
Subject: Game Mastering
>It's in our contracts... If you let your players off too easy, or let
>them
>become munchies, you get your GM license taken away by the gaming
>police...
---
You know, talk of the blue crew around some of my personalities might
result in the destruction of my 'pooter and me sitting under a table
hyperventalating about being chased. ha : +
---
><Bul;l shakes his head>

>If a [player want to play a dragon, they should have to deal with the
>other
>dragons... ie, Lofwyrm, etc...
-----
I actually didn't GM that run, the dumb fragger that did, of course,
didn't see any reason to limit the stupidity of the characters. I tried
to raise a stink about it, but my character got killed off before I had a
chance to say anything about it. Last time that GM is running my life.
------
>If you can hide a Panther up your sleeve, you're REALLY abusing the
>concealibility rules...:):):)
--
What are the exact rules of concealibility? The only person that was
funky enough to have a panther cannon on him in public, was
automattically put in jail for having it. he got to meet bubba in jail.
That'll teach to carry oversized weapons!
---
>Now the Offical Shadowrn mailing List Welcome Ork!
----
Now, if only I could be declared the Official Pimp Ork, my life would be
complete.


Gweedo the Killer Pimp strikes again!
Message no. 9
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Flamethrowers(Not the spell)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 16:49:03 +1000
> >>Hmmm, and now for my next run...... watch me pull a flamethrower out
> >>of
> >>this hat!
> >-----
> >Maybe You could call yourself David Copperfield the GM. "And now, here's
> >a Panther Cannon, right up my sleeve, ha!"
> >
> If you can hide a Panther up your sleeve, you're REALLY abusing the
> concealibility rules...:):):)
>

Not if you're a troll... *grin*
Message no. 10
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Flamethrowers(Not the spell)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:56:39 +0100
MARTIN E. GOTTHARD said on 13:57/ 1 Mar 97...

> > The general attitude I've heard about flamethrowers is that they increase
> > the mortality rate WAY too much. (player and NPC alike)

Flamethrowers aren't all that accurate weapons, and they have very short
ranges. Get in the way of one, and yes, you can very well end up dead (or
wish you were, I think). Then again, walking around with a fuel tank on
your back isn't necessarily good for your health either :)

> Sometimes it's really hard to scare players without nuking their
> characters outright.
>
> Flamethrowers usually scare the drek out of people, though.

That's because just about everyone fears getting burned, even if there's
no reason for it. Granted, a flamethrower is something to fear, but I
remember that when we had to put out burning cotton wool with out bare
hands in a biology lab, a lot of people hesitated.

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Message no. 11
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Flamethrowers(Not the spell)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:17:06 +0000
On 1 Mar 97 at 2:33, Bull wrote:
[snip GMs being evil]
> It's in our contracts... If you let your players off too easy, or let them
> become munchies, you get your GM license taken away by the gaming police...
>
> What... You didn't read the pamphlet?? Damn... Watch out for the flasing
> lights and the red dot on your forhead...
No... the flashing lights are not used anymore, and for last reports
from GPHQs they already use beta-type smartgun links.

Sascha
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Message no. 12
From: "ADAM B. TRELOAR" <s777317@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Flamethrowers(Not the spell)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 09:49:43 +1000
> > >I'm wondering if there are any flamethrowers in any official FASA material.
> > >I have seen a few on various web pages and such but never in any fasa
> > >product, dispite the fact that they have mentioned them (example: thing
> >
> > The general attitude I've heard about flamethrowers is that they increase
> > the mortality rate WAY too much. (player and NPC alike)
>
> And that's a bad thing?? *evil grin*
>
> Sometimes it's really hard to scare players without nuking their
> characters outright.
>
> Flamethrowers usually scare the drek out of people, though.
>
> Hmmm, and now for my next run...... watch me pull a flamethrower out of
> this hat!
>
> (I think the rest of my group are running right now)
>
> Bleach

Ahh yes... But who's running FOR the flamethrowers, eh? *grin* Certain
people will probably want one... :)

Guardian

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