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Message no. 1
From: Lloyd Vance ljvance@*******.edu
Subject: Flash Attacks [addendum]
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:09:54 -0700
At 03:00 PM 6/25/99 -0700, Lloyd Vance wrote:
>
>>I'm not sure how this is handled in SR3, but in SR2 you could target
>physical objects from the astral plane. Ater all, all spells except for
>manipulation spells originate in the astral and ground out through the
>target (animal, minderal, or vegetable). Otherwise, a blind magician could
>never target physical objects, which is not the case. Since we began this
>discussion, a TN mod was mentioned for trying to make out physical objects
>with astral perception. Perhaps this applies to the TNs of casting spells
>at physical targets in SR3 or whatever. I'm just not sure how it's dealt
>with in SR3.
>>
>
>Sorry man, but that's not right. GR2 pg 86 says that you cannot affect
>things in the physical world unless they are also astrally active (such as
>dual natured beings, foci, etc).
>

I forgot the line 'while astrally active' in the above. Don't jump on me
just yet. :)
Lloyd Vance
"beating life at life,
and death too late to
truly win
against
you."
--Charles Bukowski
Message no. 2
From: Kelson Kelson@****.net
Subject: Flash Attacks [addendum]
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 22:49:37 -0500
> From: Lloyd Vance <ljvance@*******.edu>
> Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 5:09 PM

> >Sorry man, but that's not right. GR2 pg 86 says that you cannot affect
> >things in the physical world unless they are also astrally active (such
as
> >dual natured beings, foci, etc).

> I forgot the line 'while astrally active' in the above. Don't jump on me
> just yet. :)

Heh. Actually, I believe the statement you quoted is related to physically
interacting with objects (i.e. touching them) while astrally projecting (at
least that's what it sounds like). You could cast spells at physical
objects while astrally perceiving just fine in SR2. Oh well, no biggie.
:)

> Lloyd Vance

Justin
Message no. 3
From: Lloyd Vance ljvance@*******.edu
Subject: Flash Attacks [addendum]
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:25:00 -0700
At 10:49 PM 6/25/99 -0500, Kelson wrote:
>> From: Lloyd Vance <ljvance@*******.edu>
>> Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 5:09 PM
>
>> >Sorry man, but that's not right. GR2 pg 86 says that you cannot affect
>> >things in the physical world unless they are also astrally active (such
>as
>> >dual natured beings, foci, etc).
>
>> I forgot the line 'while astrally active' in the above. Don't jump on me
>> just yet. :)
>
>Heh. Actually, I believe the statement you quoted is related to physically
>interacting with objects (i.e. touching them) while astrally projecting (at
>least that's what it sounds like). You could cast spells at physical
>objects while astrally perceiving just fine in SR2. Oh well, no biggie.
>:)
>
>> Lloyd Vance
>
>Justin

Yes, if you are talking about a non-blindfolded/magehooded guy who is
astrally perceiving. But if he has no use of his eyes, then he is only
'seeing' in the astral plane, and therefore has not the LOS to affect the
physical world.

And the rule is for astrally projecting, I admit, but it does say that you
cannot cast spells at the physical world w/o an astrally active link. But I
was using it because of the blind/hood/blindfold/flashpak (remember the
original post?) would have taken out your physical eyes.

:?
Lloyd Vance
"beating life at life,
and death too late to
truly win
against
you."
--Charles Bukowski

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