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Message no. 1
From: Wyrmy <elfman@*****.NET>
Subject: Foci Questions,and a new focus.
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:47:44 -0600
My Question(s) is : near the end of the book 2XS there is mentioned a
focus called a totem focus,or something to that extent.Is there A focus
like that,and if it exists,what sourcebook is it in? If it does exist I
have the hermetic version:
The elemental focus.This focus strenghtens the bond between a mage and a
chosen element.It's made like a stacked focus with a few changes in
it.It has a spirit focus(chosen element),a specific spell type
focus(detection for air,etc,etc,),And it has a new type of focus, The
elemental effect focus.This new type(elemental effect)of focus adds its
rating to the force of a spell with the same elemental effect.So to sum
up the Elemental focus:Spirit focus,Specific spell type focus,elemental
effect focus.The bonding prices are :4 X rating of focus.The monetary
cost differ from element to element.Fire: rating X rating + 2,500
=Y=.Earth: rating X rating + 2,000 =Y=. Water: Rating X Rating + 1,500.
Air:Rating X rating + 1,000.
Message no. 2
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Foci Questions,and a new focus.
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:37:56 EST
In a message dated 98-01-17 23:38:31 EST, elfman@*****.NET writes:

> My Question(s) is : near the end of the book 2XS there is mentioned a
> focus called a totem focus,or something to that extent.Is there A focus
> like that,and if it exists,what sourcebook is it in? If it does exist I
> have the hermetic version:

It isn't within a given sourcebook, at least not one that I know from SR.
We've used Totemic and Elementality Foci here for a while now. But then
again, we've expanded the foci rules out as well. (I'm working on printing it
for the page)

> The elemental focus.This focus strenghtens the bond between a mage and a
> chosen element.It's made like a stacked focus with a few changes in
> it.It has a spirit focus(chosen element),a specific spell type
> focus(detection for air,etc,etc,),And it has a new type of focus, The
> elemental effect focus.This new type(elemental effect)of focus adds its
> rating to the force of a spell with the same elemental effect.So to sum
> up the Elemental focus:Spirit focus,Specific spell type focus,elemental
> effect focus.The bonding prices are :4 X rating of focus.The monetary
> cost differ from element to element.Fire: rating X rating + 2,500
> =Y=.Earth: rating X rating + 2,000 =Y=. Water: Rating X Rating + 1,500.
> Air:Rating X rating + 1,000.

The idea is a wonderful one, that only thing that I am left to wonder is why
the differences in the elementals? I know from a game mechanics point of
view, they aren't all balanced out. But from the "Hermetic Circle in Balance"
POV, they would all be equal. Hell, from game mechanics terms they would all
be equal.

In the games here, the foci has a cost similar to that of a Power Foci, and
isn't treated as a "stacked foci", though I can see where'd you make the
comparison. The reason for the cost is that the foci assists in conjuring
elementals of like type, casting spells of related energy and banishing
elementals of opposing forces (didn't think of that did ya???).

But the stuff you have is good guy....
-K
Message no. 3
From: Kevin Roberts <kr23st00@****.NET>
Subject: Re: Foci Questions,and a new focus.
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:46:02 -0600
Ereskanti wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-01-17 23:38:31 EST, elfman@*****.NET writes:
>
> > My Question(s) is : near the end of the book 2XS there is mentioned a
> > focus called a totem focus,or something to that extent.Is there A focus
> > like that,and if it exists,what sourcebook is it in? If it does exist I
> > have the hermetic version:
>
> It isn't within a given sourcebook, at least not one that I know from SR.
> We've used Totemic and Elementality Foci here for a while now. But then
> again, we've expanded the foci rules out as well. (I'm working on printing it
> for the page)
>
snip snip.....



Well I hate to say this but this Idea has been published in the Mag.
"Shadowland"

It tells of binding spirits and elementals to foci. I don't have my
copies handy right now
so I can't tell you which issue to look in.
Nice idea though.....

end of line......
Message no. 4
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Foci Questions,and a new focus.
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:18:46 EST
In a message dated 98-01-18 01:46:03 EST, kr23st00@****.NET writes:

> > It isn't within a given sourcebook, at least not one that I know from SR.
> > We've used Totemic and Elementality Foci here for a while now. But then
> > again, we've expanded the foci rules out as well. (I'm working on
printing
> it
> > for the page)
> >
> snip snip.....
> Well I hate to say this but this Idea has been published in the Mag.
> "Shadowland"
>
> It tells of binding spirits and elementals to foci. I don't have my
> copies handy right now
> so I can't tell you which issue to look in.
> Nice idea though.....

Wyrmy's idea that started this, but "binding of spirits to foci" isn't what I
was referring to at all. I was referring to aligning the energies of a given
elementality, thus creating a foci for a particular "alignment" of elemental
energies. Binder (the character I've developed nearly all of this with)
doesn't believe in "Binding" spirit/elementals. Hell, he's got "Friends
Abroad" listed as an edge, with "Spirits" being the detailed group...
-K
Message no. 5
From: Zixx <t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE>
Subject: Re: Foci Questions,and a new focus.
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:03:25 +0000
On 18 Jan 98 at 0:37, Ereskanti wrote:

> In a message dated 98-01-17 23:38:31 EST, elfman@*****.NET writes:
>
> > My Question(s) is : near the end of the book 2XS there is mentioned a
> > focus called a totem focus,or something to that extent.Is there A focus
> > like that,and if it exists,what sourcebook is it in? If it does exist I
> > have the hermetic version:
>
> It isn't within a given sourcebook, at least not one that I know from SR.
> We've used Totemic and Elementality Foci here for a while now. But then
> again, we've expanded the foci rules out as well. (I'm working on printing it
> for the page)

Expanded is good. I was more than a bit...disturbed...when Binder made a
weapon-focus out of a chain hanging somewhere. In less than a minute. Heck
my groups mage wants to create a weapon focus and figured she'd need half a
year....



Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx a.k.a. Charon, your friendly werepanther physad.

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Message no. 6
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Foci Questions,and a new focus.
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:43:12 +0000
On 17 Jan 98 at 22:47, Wyrmy wrote:
> My Question(s) is : near the end of the book 2XS there is mentioned a
> focus called a totem focus,or something to that extent.Is there A focus
> like that,and if it exists,what sourcebook is it in? If it does exist I
> have the hermetic version:
Could you either describe what it does, or narrow the source down a
bit? So far, I'd say you're refering to a spirit focus (pp. 137-138),
but as you mention that type of focus later.... and it has been a while
that I've read 2XS.

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Message no. 7
From: Wyrmy <elfman@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: Foci Questions,and a new focus.
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 17:54:53 -0600
Sascha Pabst wrote:
>
> On 17 Jan 98 at 22:47, Wyrmy wrote:
> > My Question(s) is : near the end of the book 2XS there is mentioned a
> > focus called a totem focus,or something to that extent.Is there A focus
> > like that,and if it exists,what sourcebook is it in? If it does exist I
> > have the hermetic version:
> Could you either describe what it does, or narrow the source down a
> bit? So far, I'd say you're refering to a spirit focus (pp. 137-138),
> but as you mention that type of focus later.... and it has been a while
> that I've read 2XS.

It Says ,In the book , that The Totem focus strengthens the bond between
a shaman and his totem,Allowing him more power from his totem.I figured
it gave dice for doing Spells and conjuring spirits that the totem gives
Advantages.
Message no. 8
From: Kevin Roberts <kr23st00@****.NET>
Subject: Re: Foci Questions,and a new focus.
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:03:24 -0600
Ereskanti wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-01-18 01:46:03 EST, kr23st00@****.NET writes:
>
> > > It isn't within a given sourcebook, at least not one that I know from SR.
> > > We've used Totemic and Elementality Foci here for a while now. But then
> > > again, we've expanded the foci rules out as well. (I'm working on
> printing
> > it
> > > for the page)
> > >
> > snip snip.....
> > Well I hate to say this but this Idea has been published in the Mag.
> > "Shadowland"
> >
> > It tells of binding spirits and elementals to foci. I don't have my
> > copies handy right now
> > so I can't tell you which issue to look in.
> > Nice idea though.....
>
> Wyrmy's idea that started this, but "binding of spirits to foci" isn't what
I
> was referring to at all. I was referring to aligning the energies of a given
> elementality, thus creating a foci for a particular "alignment" of
elemental
> energies. Binder (the character I've developed nearly all of this with)
> doesn't believe in "Binding" spirit/elementals. Hell, he's got
"Friends
> Abroad" listed as an edge, with "Spirits" being the detailed group...
> -K

Well.... I think you are lucky. Every game that I have been has had
problems
because of Spirits/Elementals. The group has yet to meet one that
didn't
try to backstab them. Anyway the mag. "Shadowland" issue #4 page 18 - 19
details
creating and benefits from binding Elementals and powers that foci can
give them.
Message no. 9
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Foci Questions,and a new focus.
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:35:40 EST
In a message dated 98-01-18 12:08:17 EST, t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE
writes:

> Expanded is good. I was more than a bit...disturbed...when Binder made a
> weapon-focus out of a chain hanging somewhere. In less than a minute. Heck
> my groups mage wants to create a weapon focus and figured she'd need half a
> year....
>
Be careful of the term "foci". What you call a foci, he doesn't...
-K (with an evil knowing grin)
Message no. 10
From: Zixx <t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE>
Subject: Re: Foci Questions,and a new focus.
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:34:42 +0000
On 18 Jan 98 at 23:35, Ereskanti wrote:

> > Expanded is good. I was more than a bit...disturbed...when Binder made a
> > weapon-focus out of a chain hanging somewhere. In less than a minute. Heck
> > my groups mage wants to create a weapon focus and figured she'd need half a
> > year....
> >
> Be careful of the term "foci". What you call a foci, he doesn't...

What exactly does Binder call it. Or better: What does he call a focus?

> -K (with an evil knowing grin)

I have the feeling, I should be afraid of the first fight with my new
weapon...

Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx a.k.a. Charon, your friendly werepanther physad.

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t+(++) 5+ X++ R* tv b++ DI(+) D++ G>++
e>+++++(*) h! r-- z?
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