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Message no. 1
From: Trollman <elfman@*****.NET>
Subject: foci, riggers, and elementalists
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:46:12 -0500
I was wondering:
A: Can an elementalist use all foci,provided that it goes eith their
type of spells ?
B: Does the grimoire have more illusion spells than Sr II ?
And,
C:If an elementalist becomes a rigger does he/she have to be arigger of
his element?(Water elementalist rigger drives submarine,air plane,earth
drives tank or car,fire drives vehicle that moves in fire/lava ?)
Message no. 2
From: "Logan Graves <Fenris>" <logan1@*****.INTERCOM.NET>
Subject: Re: foci, riggers, and elementalists
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:36:52 -0400
In our last episode, Trollman pondered, thus:
>
> A: Can an elementalist use all foci,provided that it goes eith their
> type of spells ?

[Grimmy II, pg. 33] "Elemental Adepts may use any foci which aid their
areas of skill."

However, any magically active individual can use any *applicable* Foci,
such as from a Talismonger's Shoppe, provided the Karmac binding costs
are paid. (Ya can get foci from a wizard too, provided ya can find a
willing one, to make 'em for ya...).


> B: Does the grimoire have more illusion spells than Sr II ?

Yes, the Grimmy II has descriptions for the following Illsuion spells:
Overstimulate, Physical Mask, Spectacle, Trid Entertainment, Trid
Spectacle, & Vehicle Mask

Additionally, the Awakenings Sourcebook lists these Illusion spells:
Agonizing Pain, Chaff, Crowd Scene, Disregard, Dream, Flare, & Silence.


> C:If an elementalist becomes a rigger does he/she have to be arigger of
> his element?(Water elementalist rigger drives submarine,air plane,earth
> drives tank or car,fire drives vehicle that moves in fire/lava ?)

Ignoring the obvious question of "Why would s/he want to?" IMNTBHO, the
choice of a Rigger's modus operandi shouldn't affect the Elemental
Adept's magical performance (not counting Essence loss) AND vice versa.
Although, a rigging/elemental adept in his own element (such as an
"airborne/air elementalist") should prove to be a very powerful
combination!!

--Fenris
_______________________________________________logan1@*****.intercom.net
(>) The only thing worse than a sorcerer
is a sorcerer's apprentice.
(>) --Vixen, former Ancients' mage
Message no. 3
From: Mon goose <landsquid@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: foci, riggers, and elementalists
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:42:49 PDT
>I was wondering:
> A: Can an elementalist use all foci,provided that it goes eith their
> type of spells ?

They can use any focus that applies to thier skills, including weapon
and power foci. Spirit ans spell foci for spirits thay can't interact
with, or spells they can't cast, would be pretty pointless. AFAIK, they
can also MAKE foci using enchanting, but probably only ones they can
use.

> B: Does the grimoire have more illusion spells than Sr II ?

yes, but still no "general porpose" one. It does have spell design,
pretty vital for playing a versatile elemental adept.

> And,
> C:If an elementalist becomes a rigger does he/she have to be a rigger
of his element?(Water elementalist rigger drives submarine,air
plane,earth drives tank or car,fire drives vehicle that moves in
fire/lava ?)
>
No. He could have skill with any vehicle he chose, rigger or not. If
they had some psycological flaw or geas holding them back, they might
not WANT to leave thier element. Also, thier conjoured elementals would
be more useful in the appropriate element. That goes double for rigger
/ shamanic adepts.

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of a psycotic - Einstien

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Message no. 4
From: John E Pederson <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: foci, riggers, and elementalists
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:38:09 -0500
On Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:46:12 -0500 Trollman <elfman@*****.NET> writes:
>I was wondering:
> A: Can an elementalist use all foci,provided that it goes eith their
> type of spells ?


Correct. That is, an elementalist can bond any and all foci, but will
only find useful the ones that boost the effectiveness of the abilities
that they possess.


> B: Does the grimoire have more illusion spells than Sr II ?


The Grimmy does have a few spells in all categories that are not included
in the main rules.


> And,
> C:If an elementalist becomes a rigger does he/she have to be arigger
>of
> his element?(Water elementalist rigger drives submarine,air
>plane,earth
> drives tank or car,fire drives vehicle that moves in fire/lava ?)


No. An elementalist is still a mage, he is not a shaman following an
elemental totem.


--
John Pederson "Oh my God! They killed Kenny!"
aka Canthros, shapeshifter-mage --South Park
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Message no. 5
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: foci, riggers, and elementalists
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 23:55:05 +0100
And verily, did Trollman hastily scribble thusly...
| C:If an elementalist becomes a rigger does he/she have to be arigger of
| his element?(Water elementalist rigger drives submarine,air plane,earth
| drives tank or car,fire drives vehicle that moves in fire/lava ?)

You're getting some VERY wierd ideas.
Where from I've no idea.

Tech and magic don't mix... At all...

An elementalist with VCR I could do anything that anyone ELSE with VCR I
could do....
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