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Message no. 1
From: XaOs <xaos@*****.NET>
Subject: For the curious about an oldish debate
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 02:48:54 -0500
Not that it's all that big of a deal, but I found an online definition of a
shotgun:

Shotgun: A gun with a smoothbore that shoots cartridges that contain "shot"
or small metal pellets (of lead or steel) as the projectiles.

And this:

Shotguns have a similar external appearance to rifles, but differ in the
lack of rifling inside the barrel, which is the basis for their legal
definition. A shotgun shell may contain one large projectile (called a
slug), a few pellets of large shot, or many tiny pellets. Shotguns are
available in single shot (break action), double barrel, pump action, and
semiautomatic.

If you're looking for a reference, here's the link:

http://telpath2.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNTERM.html

(Don't accept anything as gospel, but I just looked this up to double-check
on my own personal sanity.)

Thank you for your time.


-XaOs-
xaos@*****.net
Message no. 2
From: Michael vanHulst <Schizi@***.COM>
Subject: Re: For the curious about an oldish debate
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:15:49 EDT
In a message dated 8/19/98 12:57:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, xaos@*****.NET
writes:

> Shotguns are
> available in single shot (break action), double barrel, pump action, and
> semiautomatic.
and Bolt-action Slug bareled ones too, check out <www.mossberg.com>;
How would you handle these?
<kicking can of grease into fire>
Message no. 3
From: XaOs <xaos@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: For the curious about an oldish debate
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:38:23 -0500
> and Bolt-action Slug bareled ones too, check out <www.mossberg.com>;
> How would you handle these?
> <kicking can of grease into fire>

Do you mean http://www.mossberg.com/pr_slugsyst.htm ?

That's actually exactly what I was looking for. I was under the impression
that no shotgun had a rifled barrel, but Bai Shen was convinced that there
were. (And that you could interchange them). I hadn't found a reference
anywhere for them. I wasn't aware of their existence, and thought they would
be uncommon at best. (Perhaps in assault shotguns). But, now at least I know
they exist. :)

-XaOs-
xaos@*****.net

By the way...mossberg is weird. (Not necessarily a bad thing).
Message no. 4
From: bryan.covington@****.COM
Subject: Re: For the curious about an oldish debate
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:49:02 -0400
> That's actually exactly what I was looking for. I was under the
> impression
> that no shotgun had a rifled barrel, but Bai Shen was convinced that
> there
> were. (And that you could interchange them). I hadn't found a
> reference
> anywhere for them. I wasn't aware of their existence, and thought they
> would
> be uncommon at best. (Perhaps in assault shotguns). But, now at least
> I know
> they exist. :)
>
Thing is, from reading this article, they don't talk
about the rifled barrel much at all. Almost like its a standard feature.
This makes me think that they are pretty common or at least easy to get
if you want them.
Message no. 5
From: Tarek Okail <Tarek_Okail@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: For the curious about an oldish debate
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 19:49:29 -0400
Bryan--

> Thing is, from reading this article, they don't talk
>about the rifled barrel much at all. Almost like its a standard feature.=

>This makes me think that they are pretty common or at least easy to get
>if you want them.

The reason they don't talk much about the rifled barrel is becaus=
e,
quite frankly, most shotguns are sold for skeet shooting and bird hunting=
.
Imagine what a mess shot shells make of finely machined rifling... and it=

doesn't enhance the hit potential of the shotgun.
The only reason you'd want to use a rifled barrel is if you're
using slug shells exclusively. You'll get maybe +100-200 fps muzzle
velocity over your standard smoothbore barrel, but again, it doesn't much=

change the accuracy of the firearm at the ranges you're likely to use it.=

In part, this is because slugs have lands and grooves (rifling) of their
own, in order to provide the stabilizing spin necessary with a smoothbore=

barrel.
And, as far as I know, there's only one reason to have a slug-onl=
y
shotgun, and that's urban combat / self defense. Of course, that's all th=
at
Shadowrunners are interested in... I've never heard of a shadowrun where
all the runners did was go out and hunt quail... <g>

Shadowmage
Message no. 6
From: Michael vanHulst <Schizi@***.COM>
Subject: Re: For the curious about an oldish debate
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 20:02:11 EDT
In a message dated 8/20/98 12:09:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, xaos@*****.NET
writes:

> Do you mean http://www.mossberg.com/pr_slugsyst.htm ?
>
That is probably the exact address yes, I got lazy, and figured the whole site
could be useful anyway. As general shotgunning stuff.

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