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Message no. 1
From: Rob Moulton <szicepik@****.UCDAVIS.EDU>
Subject: "Four eyes"
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 11:39:58 -0700
Question. A bit crazy, but funny as well. Could a samurai be
created that had cybereyes on both sides of his head? With the proper
processing, could he/she use all four eyes to see? That way, when they
walked down a corridor, they could turn their body sideways, aim a gun
down each pathway (ambidextrious firing) while looking forward (and
backwards) at the same time. Sort of a more complex PMDS. This system
would sure help avoid those ambushes or sneak attacks.
However, I would hate to have to explain such a thing to my
parents... ("son, what's that on the back of your head?")

Rob

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Message no. 2
From: MILLIKEN DAMION A <u9467882@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: "Four eyes"
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 12:50:53 +1000
I would think this entirely possible. Riggers can have vision input from 360
degrees, and from multiple sources, so a similar proccessing chip should
allow anyone else to. Come to think of it, you could put an ultrasound sight
or something in as well, just to stiop those invisible people sneaking up.
Or you could have an eye in your finger, and shoot around corners without
hardly being exposed at all.

Damion
Message no. 3
From: Rob Moulton <szicepik@****.UCDAVIS.EDU>
Subject: Re: "Four eyes"
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 09:27:32 -0700
Yeah, sounds good to me too. My only concern was that with eyes,
you need the muscles to move them around. So, this sam we're talking
about would need eyes that had a wide angle view. Something like Jordi's
visor from Star Trek NG on the back of his head. Then, on his display
link in his eyes, he could have a split screen view and monitor all
angles. Noone tinks that this would be confusing for him? No headaches
or huge modifiers?

Rob

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Message no. 4
From: The Smiling Bandit <ygershon@*******.EDU>
Subject: Re: "Four eyes"
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 00:15:37 -0700
I like it except for the fact that eyes take up a lot of space in the
head, and putting two more in would mean you would have to pull out some
more samurai brain. Gasp! That's the last of those neurons, huh?

<duck>

Here's a better one: double goggles. That is, goggles with binocular
inputs from front and back (and maybe sides). Then you have a system that
integrates all that stuff into one 360 degree image and relays it to the
samurai.

<GRIN> That'll make some impact on surprise tests, won't it?

-The Smiling Bandit <Strikes again!/Ha-Ha-Ha>
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On Mon, 20 Jun 1994, Rob Moulton wrote:

> Yeah, sounds good to me too. My only concern was that with eyes,
> you need the muscles to move them around. So, this sam we're talking
> about would need eyes that had a wide angle view. Something like Jordi's
> visor from Star Trek NG on the back of his head. Then, on his display
> link in his eyes, he could have a split screen view and monitor all
> angles. Noone tinks that this would be confusing for him? No headaches
> or huge modifiers?
>
> Rob
>
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Message no. 5
From: Luke Kendall <luke@********.CANON.OZ.AU>
Subject: Re: "Four eyes"
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 09:32:15 +1000
The Smiling Bandit:

> Here's a better one: double goggles. That is, goggles with binocular
> inputs from front and back (and maybe sides). Then you have a system that
> integrates all that stuff into one 360 degree image and relays it to the
> samurai.

<Rubs hands gleefully> Just wait until those goggles are ripped off or
damaged in a fight. The sucker will be boggled.

Ever see film of the experiment with inverting (up/down) glasses? The
brain adjusts, and re-inverts after a period (many hours, or days).
And took hours to return to normal when the glasses are removed.

luke
Message no. 6
From: Marc A Renouf <jormung@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: "Four eyes"
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 09:48:34 -0400
On Thu, 30 Jun 1994, Luke Kendall wrote:
[speaking of "double goggles" that allow 360 degree vision]

> Ever see film of the experiment with inverting (up/down) glasses? The
> brain adjusts, and re-inverts after a period (many hours, or days).
> And took hours to return to normal when the glasses are removed.
>
> luke
>

The Human brain does not always adapt to new stimuli, however. Inversion
can be compensated for in a matter of hours or days, but photonegativity
is not overcome at all. At least not in the month that the survey was
done. The subjects were still unable to recognize people or common
objects and often misjudged optical matters.

Marc

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