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Message no. 1
From: Michael Coleman <mscoleman@********.NET>
Subject: Friendly Fire (RE: Smartgun Links (pt 1))
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 06:07:26 -0500
> Ever hear of "friendly fire"? How about "heat of battle"? You
can be the
> best shot in the world, have all the training in combat and
> safety that you
> want, and you can still possibly shoot your best friend, or some innocent
> kid, or some guy who was just trying to buy a goddamn pack of
> cigarettes, in
> the middle of a hellacious combat scenario. Shit like that has nothing, I
> say again *nothing* to do with your skill, or lack thereof, with
> a firearm.
> It has to do with chance; a lack of skill can increase the chance of
> disaster, but even the best can have something go wrong.
>
> Patrick Goodman

How about shooting someone with a powerful handgun and having go thru the
target thru the wall into the guy next door.
Message no. 2
From: Chameleon <cham@***.BIGPOND.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: Friendly Fire (RE: Smartgun Links (pt 1))
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:07:47 GMT
And so, on Tue, 15 Sep 1998 06:07:26 -0500 did Michael Coleman
<mscoleman@********.NET> quoth merrily:

>How about shooting someone with a powerful handgun and having go thru =
the
>target thru the wall into the guy next door.

I'd just chalk that one up to bad luck:)

Chameleon,

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Message no. 3
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Friendly Fire (RE: Smartgun Links (pt 1))
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:26:13 -0500
>> It has to do with chance; a lack of skill can increase the chance of
>> disaster, but even the best can have something go wrong.
>
>How about shooting someone with a powerful handgun and having go thru the
>target thru the wall into the guy next door.

Use expanding ammo, and make the powder load a little lighter. I'm serious.
That's one of the reasons I hate jacketed slugs and hot loads; they increase
the chance of doing just that. And in a real-world situation, that might
not be the guy next door; it might be your kid in the next room.
Message no. 4
From: Jett <zmjett@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Friendly Fire (RE: Smartgun Links (pt 1))
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:07:47 -0400
Chameleon wrote:
>
> And so, on Tue, 15 Sep 1998 06:07:26 -0500 did Michael Coleman
> <mscoleman@********.NET> quoth merrily:
>
> >How about shooting someone with a powerful handgun and having go thru the
> >target thru the wall into the guy next door.
>
> I'd just chalk that one up to bad luck:)
>
> Chameleon,

Hmmm...safety rounds in Shadowrun. COnsidering the thin walls in most
slums, I think maybe those might be a good idea. Safety rounds also tend
to do a lot more damage to unarmored humans, I would think...something
about soft lead flattening out when it hits bone or something just seems
to shout "Massive internal trauma" to me...
--Jett

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Message no. 5
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Friendly Fire (RE: Smartgun Links (pt 1))
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:20:16 +0200
According to Jett, at 20:07 on 15 Sep 98, the word on the street was...

> Hmmm...safety rounds in Shadowrun. COnsidering the thin walls in most
> slums, I think maybe those might be a good idea. Safety rounds also tend
> to do a lot more damage to unarmored humans, I would think...something
> about soft lead flattening out when it hits bone or something just seems
> to shout "Massive internal trauma" to me...

"Safety" rounds are usually designed to fragment when they hit something
hard, like a wall (or a body part). That does tend to cause more damage
than regular ammo, IIRC, but a small problem is that it's impossible to
make rounds that break up against walls and have good armor piercing
capabilities (obviously), thus anyone wearing body armor will be much
safer from this kind of ammo.

In SR, such ammo should face double or triple Barrier Ratings at least for
getting through the barrier, and do the same with armor ratings. Then give
it something like +1 Damage Level vs. unarmored targets, and you have
something close to SR's flechette rounds :)

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