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From:	Kristling the Weird <kristlingweird@*********.COM>
Subject:	[Fwd: Re: [EarthDawn] Pattern Items]
Date:	Sat, 9 Aug 1997 19:16:22 -0400

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Recently on the Earthdawn Mailing list:
--Anything you want me to forward to the ED list on this, post to the SR
list and I shall. Feel free to tell me to stop, but I only will if a
majority says stop.
Kristling "The Weird" Ravenwing
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From: "S. Keith Graham" <vapspcx@***.gatech.edu>
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Subject: Re: [EarthDawn] Pattern Items
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>> Now, I realize that ED/SR crossovers aren't really popular, but the
>> pattern item concept does allow for some interesting results when
>> confronted with science...

>Earthdawn and Shadowrun and Battletech are played in different
>universes. Earthdawn is not the prequel to Shadowrun. FASA have Three
>Earths, three distinct universes, with no spelljamming or WoD.
>Crossovers SR/ED are as reasonable as putting Kelben Blackstaff and
>Gandalf side to side.

>There will not be horrors in SR (Mulvihill granted me that
>personally) and There will not be an answer to the "Are Horrors immune
>to PPC?" Anathema.

Ahm, well.... The insect spirits are the same. A number of Dragons and
elves appear in both. The elves speak the same languages, etc. etc.
There are dozens of cross-references including Harlequin talking to
a Passion in a Short Story, etc.

FASA has made it abudantly clear that Earthdawn is set in the SR
pre-history, although they have backed away from having too many
ED references appear in SR. In particuliar, the SR players threw
a complete fit about having the Horrors show up, so they've backed
away from that aspect in a big way.

I will, however, assume that BTech is in a different universe. :-)

Keith Graham
skg@****.com

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From:	Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject:	Re: [Fwd: Re: [EarthDawn] Pattern Items]
Date:	Mon, 11 Aug 1997 22:26:13 -0400

Message no. 2 At 07:16 PM 8/9/97 -0400, Kristling the Weird wrote these timeless words:

>I will, however, assume that BTech is in a different universe. :-)
>
Heh...

During the "What's Up With FASA" seminar, each of the heads of the FASA
lines (Lou, Mike, and Bryan (The BT guy:)) were talking about upcoming
products and fielding some questions.

Mike commented that there was a secret SR product coming out, and that
there were going to be rules for Bi-Pedal drones in RBB2. Then Bryan was
talking about a new major plot twist for BT, so me and Loki (Who were
h3eckling the poor guys teh entire seminar:)) asked if the new big surprise
was an SR-BT link. bryan laughed and said "Yup. Their going to bring
magic back with the Great Ghost Bear Dance, and Kerensky is really harlequin."

<grin>

Fortunately, he was kidding... But it WAS funny...;]

Bull
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From:	"J. Keith Henry" <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject:	Re: [Fwd: Re: [EarthDawn] Pattern Items]
Date:	Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:03:43 -0400

Message no. 3 In a message dated 97-08-12 06:27:48 EDT, you write:

> bryan laughed and said "Yup. Their going to bring
> magic back with the Great Ghost Bear Dance, and Kerensky is really
harlequin.
> "
>
> <grin>
>
> Fortunately, he was kidding... But it WAS funny...;]
>
I am uncertain it is all -THAT- funny. Especially since Bryan responded in
"SR Game Terms" so quickly.
-K

From:	Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject:	Re: [Fwd: Re: [EarthDawn] Pattern Items]
Date:	Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:01:29 +0100

Message no. 4 |I am uncertain it is all -THAT- funny. Especially since Bryan responded in
|"SR Game Terms" so quickly.

Just because someone's a B/tech games developer, dopesn't mean they don't
PLAY other games.....
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From:	Tobias Berghoff <Zixx@*****.TEUTO.DE>
Subject:	Re: [Fwd: Re: [EarthDawn] Pattern Items]
Date:	Thu, 14 Aug 1997 18:09:00 GMT

Message no. 5 on 11.08.97 chaos@*****.COM wrote:

c> was an SR-BT link. bryan laughed and said "Yup. Their going to bring
c> magic back with the Great Ghost Bear Dance, and Kerensky is really
c> harlequin."
c>
c> <grin>
c>
c> Fortunately, he was kidding... But it WAS funny...;]

Yup. *Fortunatly*! I wouldn't want to have to look for another clan (I
just HATE the IE...) :))

Tobias
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