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Message no. 1
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@***.GWU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gangs
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 01:21:31 -0500
I'm about to start a game in which I am a formerly active member
of a gang, and still keep in touch with them. If they turn out to be
useful, I'll keep y'all posted.

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Message no. 2
From: Eric Christopher Trager <etrager@***.GWU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gangs
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 01:25:05 -0500
I'm just dumping mail at the moment. What are you trying to say, you've
joined an EMail Shadowrun game? Interesting, but damn slow, I'm sure.

Speaking of \Peck\, you hear from him?

Speaking of Mr. Scott/Smiley/Sexpot, has anyone heard from him?

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Message no. 3
From: "C. Paul Douglas" <granite@********.CLARK.NET>
Subject: Re: Gangs
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 16:30:47 -0500
On Thu, 2 Dec 1993, Eric Christopher Trager wrote:

> I'm just dumping mail at the moment. What are you trying to say, you've
> joined an EMail Shadowrun game? Interesting, but damn slow, I'm...

i have run several off game time kinda things over the net at work - when
you get a couple of minutes you reply as to your action/reaction and it
goes on..it is a good way to take care of stuff that doesn't concern the
whole party
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Message no. 4
From: Marcel Emami <rab@****.INFORMATIK.UNI-MANNHEIM.DE>
Subject: Gangs
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 11:16:25 MEZ
During the last weeks I've played Elven Fire with my goup.
Nice adventure but I missed one. Then I saw what Erik (aka the
Whistler) (SORRY for any wrongspelling) did.
What I've missed was Info about oyher gangs as the ancient. So
what about the idea doing the same with gangs.
If everbody mail me the info about one or two of his gangs in his
universe I would do the editing.
What Do you think?

I think important Info about gangs are (Like in Elven fire p.65)

Classification
Terrritory
Interessts
Membership
Male/female Human/metas number
Goals
Known allies
known Enimies
...
Miscellaneous
Ledership/Organisation
Strenght
Colors/tag/banner
.
.
.

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Message no. 5
From: Kevin R Mohondro <mohkev@******.COM>
Subject: Gangs
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 01:15:08 -0800
I've got 2 questions regarding gangs...

1)Has anyone fleshed out any of the gangs?

The only place I can find any real data on any of the gangs is in the
Companion. There's a small amount of data in the Seattle Source Book, but,
that's just colors, race, and turf.

2)Is there any other locations I missed?

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Message no. 6
From: Alex Fuson <alexfuson@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Gangs
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:30:50 GMT
>I've got 2 questions regarding gangs...
>
>1)Has anyone fleshed out any of the gangs?
>
>The only place I can find any real data on any of the gangs is in the
>Companion. There's a small amount of data in the Seattle Source Book,
but,
>that's just colors, race, and turf.
>
>2)Is there any other locations I missed?
[snip]
>

Well, I must admit that that is a very interesting idea. I have been
making tons of NPC's and extra archetypes for about a week now, and I
have yet to even think of fleshing out a gang yet. Thanks for the idea.
And no, I haven't any answers to your question. Sorry.

--Wuurm, Dragon Of Knowledge And Power

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Message no. 7
From: Carsten Baermann <gcg4@******.HRZ.UNI-GIESSEN.DE>
Subject: Re: Gangs
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:24:49 +0100
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Kevin R Mohondro wrote:

> I've got 2 questions regarding gangs...
>
> 1)Has anyone fleshed out any of the gangs?
>
> The only place I can find any real data on any of the gangs is in the
> Companion. There's a small amount of data in the Seattle Source Book, but,
> that's just colors, race, and turf.

I flesh them out on the fly (most of the time). Last time my characters
encountered the 'Rat Eaters'. I think, they are mentioned somewhere in the
Seattle Sourcebook (not in the Gang Section but in the Renton Section).

> 2)Is there any other locations I missed?

Books about gangs? The Underworld Sourcebook has a lot about gangs in it.

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Message no. 8
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Gangs
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:02:33 +0100
Kevin R Mohondro said on 1:15/11 Feb 98...

> 1)Has anyone fleshed out any of the gangs?

I have some (I've sent Adam one of them to bother one of his players with
-- have you used it yet, BTW?) but they're not quite finished yet.

> The only place I can find any real data on any of the gangs is in the
> Companion. There's a small amount of data in the Seattle Source Book, but,
> that's just colors, race, and turf.

All you really need for gangs is your imagination, IMHO. Just describe
what they look like and decide for yourself how big the gang is, and
thats it. I feel much of the gang "creation" stuff in recent SR books is a
bit unnecessary, really.

> 2)Is there any other locations I missed?

The Underworld sourcebook has some more gangs.

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Message no. 9
From: Damon Harper <nomad74@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Gangs
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 03:28:04 PST
>I've got 2 questions regarding gangs...
>
>1)Has anyone fleshed out any of the gangs?

Well, I tried to, but then the GM stole my fraggin girlfriend(in real
life) and so things weren't quite the same. :)

>
>The only place I can find any real data on any of the gangs is in the
>Companion. There's a small amount of data in the Seattle Source Book,
but,
>that's just colors, race, and turf.
>
>2)Is there any other locations I missed?

IIRC Tir Tairngire talks a little bit about the Ancients. Um, I can't
remember the module, (DNA/DOA?) but one really gives up the skinny on
the Ancients- putting it up on a website would get a lot of hits I'm
sure- hint, hint. :)
Again, IIRC, the London and Germany Sourcebooks talk about local
gangs, about on the same level as what you read in the Seattle
Sourcebook.


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Message no. 10
From: Mike Bobroff <AirWisp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Gangs
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:06:24 EST
In a message dated 98-02-11 18:36:53 EST, you write:

> I've got 2 questions regarding gangs...
>
> 1)Has anyone fleshed out any of the gangs?
>
> The only place I can find any real data on any of the gangs is in the
> Companion. There's a small amount of data in the Seattle Source Book, but,
> that's just colors, race, and turf.

Check out the Underworld Sourcebook ... it has some more information ... about
some of the more interesting gangs in the nation ... in our home game someone
dealt with the Spiders and we fleshed them out some more ...

> 2)Is there any other locations I missed?

As for other gangs ... have fun and make some of them up as you go ...

> --
> -Moe
>

Mike
Message no. 11
From: Ed <equine@***********.COM>
Subject: Gangs
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 11:29:18 -0800
Oh...I also need a gang that has turf in the downtown seattle area. One
that would be harassing some local pawn shop for protection money. I guess
most gangs ask for protection money...but I don't have any books on me with
gangs in them. Hell two gangs would be better...I could have the other
gang show up and a big war start up with the character in the middle of it
all. :)

Ed
Message no. 12
From: Scott W <see_scott_run@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Gangs
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:36:08 -0800
---Ed <equine@***********.COM> wrote:
> Oh...I also need a gang that has turf in the downtown
> seattle area. One that would be harassing some
> local pawn shop for protection money. I guess
> most gangs ask for protection money...but I don't
> have any books on me with gangs in them. Hell two
> gangs would be better...I could have the other
> gang show up and a big war start up with the
> character in the middle of it all. :)
> Ed

If you're just looking for a piddly gang, make it up
yourself...that's usually the easiest way. The gangs
in the SR books are pretty unique in their outlook,
modus operandi (sp?), etc. IMO, they should be used
differently than the plainer gangs.
But, if that's exactly what you're looking for,
e-mail me and I'll give you a quick rundown of the
gangs in the SR companion.

Scott
==

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learn how to lose."
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Message no. 13
From: Ed <equine@***********.COM>
Subject: Re: Gangs
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:22:43 -0800
At 01:36 PM 12/16/98 -0800, you wrote:
> If you're just looking for a piddly gang, make it up
>yourself...that's usually the easiest way. The gangs
>in the SR books are pretty unique in their outlook,
>modus operandi (sp?), etc. IMO, they should be used
>differently than the plainer gangs.
> But, if that's exactly what you're looking for,
>e-mail me and I'll give you a quick rundown of the
>gangs in the SR companion.

Ahh is that the book with gangs in it? Well I have that book at home so I
will wait to answer my players email...IF he even ask what gang it might
be. Thanks for the info on where to find them.

Ed



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Message no. 14
From: Scott W <see_scott_run@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Gangs
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:13:46 -0800
> Ahh is that the book with gangs in it? Well I have
> that book at home so I will wait to answer my
> players email...IF he even ask what gang it might
> be. Thanks for the info on where to find them.
> Ed

No prob. Seems to me that the SR Companion isn't
the only place to find gangs, as I've seen many
mentioned that aren't in it (the only example I can
think of are the Ancients). So there's other gang
material out there, but I don't know quite where...
Sprawl Sites maybe, or some adventures? The Seattle
book would have them I assume, but I've never seen it,
so...

Scott
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Message no. 15
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: Gangs
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:41:08 +1000
> > Ahh is that the book with gangs in it? Well I have
> > that book at home so I will wait to answer my
> > players email...IF he even ask what gang it might
> > be. Thanks for the info on where to find them.
> > Ed
>
> No prob. Seems to me that the SR Companion isn't the only place to
> find gangs, as I've seen many mentioned that aren't in it (the only
> example I can think of are the Ancients). So there's other gang
> material out there, but I don't know quite where... Sprawl Sites
> maybe, or some adventures? The Seattle book would have them I assume,
> but I've never seen it, so...
> Scott
>
I don't know about Sprawl Sites, but I kinda doubt it.

Shadowrun Companion has details for three or four (or thereabouts)
gangs.

Underworld Sourcebook has details for another five or so gangs,
including a bit on the local chapter of the Cutters and, possibly, the
Ancients - although I'm not so sure about the ancients.

Seattle has names, colours, predominant races and territories for a
number of gangs. It also has a tiny bit of blurb about some of the
gangs. Note that the Spike Wheels are now known as the Spikes (see the
description of the Spikes gang in the Companion) and that the Silent P's
no longer exist (see the description of the Spikes gang in the
Companion). There are some other changes from then to now, so if a gang
has an updated description in the Underworld Sourcebook or the
Companion, use that description (that includes the Cutters, the Spikes,
the Halloweeners and the Red Hot Nukes at the very least).

Apart from that, I don't think gangs are really dealt with anywhere
else, except for being mentioned in passing, or appearing as a foil in
novels. You'd really have to dig through the sourcebooks to find
mentions of any others. The First Nation(s?) is an Amerindian street
gang mentioned in a Nigel Findley novel. They're also mentioned later on
in a sourcebook and it seems they've grown up from those days. The
Merlyns are a wizgang that's almost completely a mob operation these
days (see the Mob War sourcebook). Ummm...can't think of any others
offhand.

Of course, like someone already said, making them up is a good fallback.
Rabid, my physad, has a gang leader contact - Bobby Blade of the Blood
Razors. Cool name, huh? :)

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