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Message no. 1
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Gateway
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 09:16:03 -0600
Question for discussion:

What do you all think about gatewaying shadowRN to a
bit.listserv.shadowrn newsgroup?

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Message no. 2
From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
Subject: Gateway
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:10:13 -0500
>>>>> "Robert" == Robert A Hayden
<hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU> writes:

Robert> What do you all think about gatewaying shadowRN to a
Robert> bit.listserv.shadowrn newsgroup?

I personally dislike the idea of gating mailing lists to usenet when
there's already a similar group in existance (rec.games.cyber). Compare the
S/N between SHADOWRN and rec.games.cyber, for example, or the robotech list
with alt.tv.robotech.

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Message no. 3
From: Marc A Renouf <jormung@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gateway
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 15:08:00 -0500
On Wed, 8 Mar 1995, Robert A. Hayden wrote:

> Question for discussion:
>
> What do you all think about gatewaying shadowRN to a
> bit.listserv.shadowrn newsgroup?

Sounds like an invitation to chaos to me. Bring it on! :)

Marc
Message no. 4
From: NIGHTFOX <DJWA@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gateway
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 15:18:52 -0700
>Rob Hayden wrote:
>Question for discussion:
>
>What do you all think about gatewaying shadowRN to a
>bit.listserv.shadowrn newsgroup?


HUH????? Sorry Rob, but many of us do not understand this question.
If you could explain what it would entail and such - We would be better able to
give our opinions



Nightfox
Message no. 5
From: Bona na Croin <MHILLIARD@****.ALBION.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gateway
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:47:37 -0500
This may be a stupid question (I don't know enough about the 'net to know),
but would that mean ShadowRN would no longer be available in email form? The
only way I have of reading newsgroups is by telneting to gopher.msu.edu,
which is very unreliable and doesn't let me post.

PS: Jeez, JD, yer only 20? *I*'m older than you. Wow!

=)
Ffelann the Undisciplined
Message no. 6
From: Luke Kendall <luke@********.CANON.OZ.AU>
Subject: Re: Gateway
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 13:36:35 +1000
Robert Hayden wrote:

> What do you all think about gatewaying shadowRN to a
> bit.listserv.shadowrn newsgroup?

I'm just coping with the current volume of traffic.
By deleting some items unread. If the traffic increased
because of the gateway, I'd have to get much more ruthless,
or even unsubscribe.

My 2c.

luke
Message no. 7
From: Jens Grundmann <jens@*******.HAMBURG.COM>
Subject: Re: Gateway
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 07:20:00 MET
>>>>> "Robert" == Robert A Hayden
<hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU> writes:

Robert> Question for discussion: What do you all think about
Robert> gatewaying shadowRN to a bit.listserv.shadowrn newsgroup?

Nice idea. Our service provider charges nothing for news transfer, but
quite a lot for email. At least for me it would be a cost reduction.

Jens
Message no. 8
From: "Bracket <la7hfw@*****.ucc.hull.ac.uk>"
Subject: Re: Gateway
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 12:18:59 +0100
On Wed, 8 Mar 1995, Robert A. Hayden wrote:

> Question for discussion:
>
> What do you all think about gatewaying shadowRN to a
> bit.listserv.shadowrn newsgroup?


With the (lack of) reliability of newsgroups here, I can't honestly say
it would make much difference to me - assuming that there remained the
mailing list option.

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Message no. 9
From: Jani Fikouras <feanor@**********.UNI-BREMEN.DE>
Subject: Re: Gateway
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 12:33:33 +0100
> Question for discussion:
>
> What do you all think about gatewaying shadowRN to a
> bit.listserv.shadowrn newsgroup?

A BIG and resounding NO !!!!! If we do that we'll get all the lamers that
surf usenet - what was the last time you had a look at rec.games.cyber ???
Do you want that crowd in here ?????

--
"Believe in Angels." -- The Crow

GCS d>- H s+: !g p? !au a- w+ v-(?) C+++ UA++S++L+>++++ P-- (aren't we all?)
L+>+++ 3 E--- N+ K W(+)(---) M-- !V(--) -po+(---) Y+ t++ 5+ !j(-) R+++(--)
!G tv(++) b++ D+ B- e+ u++(-) h*(+) f+ r- n!(----) y?
Message no. 10
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@****.CAIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Gateway
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 06:34:56 -0500
On Wed, 8 Mar 1995, Robert A. Hayden wrote:

> What do you all think about gatewaying shadowRN to a
> bit.listserv.shadowrn newsgroup?

It'd lose control. Right now, we're set up pretty well -- when
somebody subscribes, they receive the FAQ within 24 hours. Sure, we still
get frequently asked questions, but just imagine what it'd be like if
they /didn't/ automagically get the FAQ!
Also, the list would immediately be subject to any two-bit
advertiser, evangelist, or politico who wanted to get the word out on the
"info hi-way."
Unless the news-to-mail is actively /moderated/, I'd strongly
suggest against it.

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Message no. 11
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@****.CAIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Gateway
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 07:27:04 -0500
On Wed, 8 Mar 1995, Bona na Croin wrote:

> This may be a stupid question (I don't know enough about the 'net to know),
> but would that mean ShadowRN would no longer be available in email form? The
> only way I have of reading newsgroups is by telneting to gopher.msu.edu,
> which is very unreliable and doesn't let me post.

A gateway would mean both ways...they're popular for some
situations, but they've also caused spam to show up in peoples' private
mailboxes at times.

> PS: Jeez, JD, yer only 20? *I*'m older than you. Wow!

A lot of people are. *grin*

-------------========== J.D. Falk <jdfalk@****.com> =========-------------
| "I'm here waiting for the waves of destruction, |
| and I can't seem to find any yet!" -T.V. Nation |
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Message no. 12
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Gateway
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 14:16:57 +0100
>What do you all think about gatewaying shadowRN to a
>bit.listserv.shadowrn newsgroup?

I'm not too much into this usenet stuff (as you can probably tell from my
next remark), but do you mean completely transferring the list to a
newsgroup, or putting copies of the messages on this list in a newsgroup?


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B? e+ u+@ h! f--(?) !r(--)(*) n---->!n y?

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