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Message no. 1
From: Fade <runefo@***.UIO.NO>
Subject: Gear and stuff
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 18:23:58 +0000
A player mentioned something about an item called an
'Ares Skillmaster'.
I'm fairly sure it's not in any of my books. Any idea where to find
out more about it?

Regards,
Fade

--
Fade

And the Prince of Lies said:
"To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven."
-John Milton, Paradise Lost
Message no. 2
From: Sean McCrohan <mccrohan@*****.OIT.GATECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gear and stuff
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:32:47 -0500
Quoting Fade (runefo@***.UIO.NO):
> A player mentioned something about an item called an
> 'Ares Skillmaster'.
> I'm fairly sure it's not in any of my books. Any idea where to find
> out more about it?
>

I think that's the brand name for Ares' skillwire system.

--Sean

--
Sean McCrohan (mccrohan@**.gatech.edu) | "He uses his folly as a stalking
Grad Student, Human-Computer Interaction | horse, and under the presentation
Georgia Institute of Technology | of that he shoots his wit."
http://www.lcc.gatech.edu/~smccrohan | _As You Like It_, Act 5 Sc 4
Message no. 3
From: Steadfast <laughingman@*******.DE>
Subject: Re: Gear and stuff
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 18:34:23 +0100
And so it came to happen that Fade wrote:

> A player mentioned something about an item called an
> 'Ares Skillmaster'.
> I'm fairly sure it's not in any of my books. Any idea where to find
> out more about it?

Uhm, never heard of. Maybe the Player meant 'Ares Wiremaster'? That was in the
SSC and was just a name for the Wired reflexes in an advertiser (or in the
Shadowtalk section, dunno).

---> Steadfast
Surfin' through the 'trix is
not like dustin crops boy!
Message no. 4
From: Fade <runefo@***.UIO.NO>
Subject: Re: Gear and stuff
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 18:59:36 +0000
> > A player mentioned something about an item called an
> > 'Ares Skillmaster'.
> > I'm fairly sure it's not in any of my books. Any idea where to find
> > out more about it?

I found out another bit.. it's essence 3.5 and costs 720000 nuyen.
It's in a character generator somewhere. It doesn't compute with any
skillwires or reflexes I recognize, even modified to alpha or beta.

--
Fade

And the Prince of Lies said:
"To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven."
-John Milton, Paradise Lost
Message no. 5
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Gear and stuff
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:18:27 +0100
According to Fade, at 18:23 on 25 Oct 98, the word on the street was...

> A player mentioned something about an item called an
> 'Ares Skillmaster'.
> I'm fairly sure it's not in any of my books. Any idea where to find
> out more about it?

It's from NERPS: ShadowLore (http://nerps.home.ml.org/); I think it was
written up by Wordman, but as there are two authors listed for the article
I can't be sure. Basically it's a package deal of skillwires+ rating 6,
softlink 4, encephalon 4, and I/O SPU 4 for 3.5 Essence, 720,000 nuyen,
availabililty 5/10 days, street index 1.

--
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Message no. 6
From: K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Gear and stuff
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 02:42:04 EST
In a message dated 10/25/1998 12:23:50 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
runefo@***.UIO.NO writes:

> A player mentioned something about an item called an
> 'Ares Skillmaster'.
> I'm fairly sure it's not in any of my books. Any idea where to find
> out more about it?
>
I must have missed this one, but that's not surprising, this is my first
serious time on email in a couple of days.

On a related topic, did anyone else notice that has an SR3 book the updates
rules for Skillsofts in the Gear section??? We liked it alot, makes it *SO*
much easier to come up with those stupid/strange/both Smart Frames now...

-K
Message no. 7
From: Mongoose <evamarie@**********.NET>
Subject: Re: Gear and stuff
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:30:30 -0600
:On a related topic, did anyone else notice that has an SR3 book the
updates
:rules for Skillsofts in the Gear section??? We liked it alot, makes it
*SO*
:much easier to come up with those stupid/strange/both Smart Frames now...
:
:-K
:

I can say from personal involvement that that was NOT the intention.
The skillsofts (and skillwires) were changed because the old prices were
extremely "staggered", and having different sets of prog size was
confusing. "Do it ONE way" was the SR3 development credo.
There's no way I can see that a smartframe could use a (normal)
Skillsoft, because the Skillsoft is a recording of memories (likely in a
specialized Simsense format), and needs a brain to function in. Unless
you have a functioning computer brain sitting around...
But yes, if for some reason, you wanted to develop an "expert
program", the "Skillsoft in a frame" concept is a decent way to estimate
required MP. "Matrix compatible" skillsofts (IE, loaded from a deck, not
a jack or memory) are kind of a neat idea; are you having deckers use them
for edit slave operations? [Somehow I expect they are ending up in
robots...]

Mongoose
Message no. 8
From: K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Gear and stuff
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:50:36 EST
In a message dated 10/26/1998 2:21:22 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
evamarie@**********.net writes:

> But yes, if for some reason, you wanted to develop an "expert
> program", the "Skillsoft in a frame" concept is a decent way to
estimate
> required MP. "Matrix compatible" skillsofts (IE, loaded from a deck, not
> a jack or memory) are kind of a neat idea; are you having deckers use them
> for edit slave operations? [Somehow I expect they are ending up in
> robots...]

Actually, not quite, we are using them to formulate BTL-like/Psychotropic
programs to utilize and create "switched people" when our characters move from
one part of a job site to another physical site entirely. Rune has been given
clues on this one (TO THE MOON) and I'm certain we are breaking hundreds of
canon rules (are there that many??? ;) but we are trying something really
extreme and it's reflecting in what we are doing.

-K (keep those deckers busy ya know :)

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