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Message no. 1
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Gen Con List
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:57:40 -0400
Ok, to divert everyone away (sort of) from Flaming, let's talk about one of
our favorite topics: Gen Con :]

I know Granite was working on a list of who was going... But maybe it's
time that list was updated a bit since now some of you who planned to go
may not be, and there may be others to add...

Since I've sort of inherited certain planning jobs from last year, I'm
going to try and do a little coordinating between our group staying at UWM,
and some of the others... So can we add e-mail addies to that gen Con 98
list, Granite?

<shrug> I'm open to ideas here :] But we do need to start organizing and
coordinating... after last year, I definately realize that being
disorganized means missing out on fun (and some migraines :))

Bull
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Message no. 2
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Gen Con List
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:08:37 EDT
In a message dated 4/8/98 1:50:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time, chaos@*****.COM
writes:

> Since I've sort of inherited certain planning jobs from last year, I'm
> going to try and do a little coordinating between our group staying at UWM,
> and some of the others... So can we add e-mail addies to that gen Con 98
> list, Granite?

Okay, I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I am interested, and unless
something strange happens to my workloads, I will have paid vacation time to
match it. What does it take to stay at the UWM? I have heard from others it
is the "funner" and "smarter" choice to make.

> <shrug> I'm open to ideas here :] But we do need to start organizing and
> coordinating... after last year, I definately realize that being
> disorganized means missing out on fun (and some migraines :))

Very, Very true...
-K
Message no. 3
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Gen Con List
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:19:18 -0400
At 10:08 AM 4/8/98 EDT, Ereskanti wrote these timeless words:
>In a message dated 4/8/98 1:50:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
chaos@*****.COM
>writes:
>
>> Since I've sort of inherited certain planning jobs from last year, I'm
>> going to try and do a little coordinating between our group staying at
UWM,
>> and some of the others... So can we add e-mail addies to that gen Con 98
>> list, Granite?
>
>Okay, I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I am interested, and unless
>something strange happens to my workloads, I will have paid vacation time to
>match it. What does it take to stay at the UWM? I have heard from others it
>is the "funner" and "smarter" choice to make.
>
First off, keep in mind that this is without any other experience on my
part. As much as I loved GC and everything else last year, if WAS my first
GC.

Anyways, we loved UWM last year. It has a lot of advantages that I could
see, and only one (maybe two) drawback. (God, I sound like a Hotel Rep for
them :))

ADVANTAGES:

Cheap -- $88.00 for a 5 person room.

Spacious -- Individual bed for each of the people the room is assigned too,
and more than enough room for an equal number of sleeping bags. Plus,
there are three seperate bedrooms to each 5-person suite, so if you end up
with members of the opposite sex (Like we did with Dvixen last year), they
can have a seperate room.

Game Space -- Besides the rooms having lots of space, there are also
mezzanines and "rec rooms" that have several tables, chairs, couches, a TV,
and a Microwave. Great place for after hours gaming.

"Extras" available at the desk -- Things like Clocks, Fans, etc. that you
can sign out and put a deposit down on, which you get back at the end of
the weekend.

Bus stop right in front of the hotel -- Cheap and easy transportation to
and from the con.

DISADVANTAGES:

No Air Conditioning -- Not a problem last year, but it could be nasty come
August this year. There are fans available, but that's not as good as AC.
But then, who's gonna be spending all that much time in the rooms?

Not walking distance to con -- I'm lazy, so not a problem, and more ofr
less made up for by easy Bus Access :]

Anyways, that's the way I see it... We will be arranging a room or two at
UWM, and Gen Con 98 should ROCK.

BTW: Dvixen and Lady J. Don;t make me come get you :]

Bull
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Message no. 4
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Gen Con List
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:31:42 EDT
In a message dated 4/10/98 2:09:27 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
chaos@*****.COM writes:

> First off, keep in mind that this is without any other experience on my
> part. As much as I loved GC and everything else last year, if WAS my first
> GC.

Not a problem. It will wind up being my first as well. It was -MANY- years
ago I was asked/invited to play in one of the games, and I've changed
(better/worse, who knows?) a lot since then.

> Anyways, we loved UWM last year. It has a lot of advantages that I could
> see, and only one (maybe two) drawback. (God, I sound like a Hotel Rep for
> them :))
>
> ADVANTAGES:
>
> Cheap -- $88.00 for a 5 person room.

OMG!!! Really?!?!?!? SIGN ME UP NOW!!! I am serious, though one problem. I
snore...I may have to wind up sleeping in the hall :)

> Spacious -- Individual bed for each of the people the room is assigned too,
> and more than enough room for an equal number of sleeping bags. Plus,
> there are three seperate bedrooms to each 5-person suite, so if you end up
> with members of the opposite sex (Like we did with Dvixen last year), they
> can have a seperate room.

Ah come on, I did stuff like this in DC. It was TONS of fun with all the
pillow fights that broke out back then... ;)

> Game Space -- Besides the rooms having lots of space, there are also
> mezzanines and "rec rooms" that have several tables, chairs, couches, a
TV,
> and a Microwave. Great place for after hours gaming.

Oh yeah, the "4 day game sessions" nightmare returns suddenly...

> "Extras" available at the desk -- Things like Clocks, Fans, etc. that you
> can sign out and put a deposit down on, which you get back at the end of
> the weekend.
>
> Bus stop right in front of the hotel -- Cheap and easy transportation to
and from the con.

How frequent though? I am assuming it runs on sunday as well? What is the
cost into the CON? Per day? Are there "weekend passes", and if so, how much?

Guys, in case you haven't guessed, I am SERIOUS here!!!

> DISADVANTAGES:
>
> No Air Conditioning -- Not a problem last year, but it could be nasty come
> August this year. There are fans available, but that's not as good as AC.
> But then, who's gonna be spending all that much time in the rooms?

Tho it has been many years since, I am used to summers in both Floriday (St.
Petersburg) and Lifetimes in Arizona (all over).

> Not walking distance to con -- I'm lazy, so not a problem, and more ofr
> less made up for by easy Bus Access :]

Distance is???

> Anyways, that's the way I see it... We will be arranging a room or two at
> UWM, and Gen Con 98 should ROCK.
>
> BTW: Dvixen and Lady J. Don;t make me come get you :]

Uh, Lady J would be a MASSIVE expense...now if I could only win that lottery
:)

-K

PS... KEEP ME IN TOUCH!!! TELL ME WHO I CAN SHARE A ROOM WITH!!!

(yes, I'm yelling out of enthusiasm!!!)
Message no. 5
From: bktoys <bktoys@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Gen Con List
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:14:31 -0400
>> Anyways, we loved UWM last year. It has a lot of advantages that I
could
>> see, and only one (maybe two) drawback. (God, I sound like a Hotel Rep
for
>> them :))
>>
>> ADVANTAGES:
>>
>> Cheap -- $88.00 for a 5 person room.
>
>OMG!!! Really?!?!?!? SIGN ME UP NOW!!! I am serious, though one problem.
I
>snore...I may have to wind up sleeping in the hall :)


88 / 5 is .... $17.50 a day (not counting if anyone wants to sleep on the
floor.)

I have a question....How far is GenCon from Florida?? Road Trip...

>> Spacious -- Individual bed for each of the people the room is assigned
too,
>> and more than enough room for an equal number of sleeping bags. Plus,
>> there are three seperate bedrooms to each 5-person suite, so if you end
up
>> with members of the opposite sex (Like we did with Dvixen last year),
they
>> can have a seperate room.
>
>Ah come on, I did stuff like this in DC. It was TONS of fun with all the
>pillow fights that broke out back then... ;)




>> Game Space -- Besides the rooms having lots of space, there are also
>> mezzanines and "rec rooms" that have several tables, chairs, couches,
a
TV,
>> and a Microwave. Great place for after hours gaming.
>
>Oh yeah, the "4 day game sessions" nightmare returns suddenly...


No sleep till........

>> "Extras" available at the desk -- Things like Clocks, Fans, etc. that
you
>> can sign out and put a deposit down on, which you get back at the end of
>> the weekend.
>>
>> Bus stop right in front of the hotel -- Cheap and easy transportation to
> and from the con.
>
>How frequent though? I am assuming it runs on sunday as well? What is the
>cost into the CON? Per day? Are there "weekend passes", and if so, how
much?
>
>Guys, in case you haven't guessed, I am SERIOUS here!!!


Cost is a good thing to find out.

>> DISADVANTAGES:
>>
>> No Air Conditioning -- Not a problem last year, but it could be nasty
come
>> August this year. There are fans available, but that's not as good as
AC.
>> But then, who's gonna be spending all that much time in the rooms?
>
>Tho it has been many years since, I am used to summers in both Floriday
(St.
>Petersburg) and Lifetimes in Arizona (all over).
>
>> Not walking distance to con -- I'm lazy, so not a problem, and more ofr
>> less made up for by easy Bus Access :]
>
>Distance is???

>PS... KEEP ME IN TOUCH!!! TELL ME WHO I CAN SHARE A ROOM WITH!!!
>
>(yes, I'm yelling out of enthusiasm!!!)


If I do go (Still unsure), you are more than welcome to share w me and
anyone else. As for snoring that is what pillows are for.

Bad Karma

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/6528

"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with
ketchup."-Anonymous
Message no. 6
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Gen Con List
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:35:23 EDT
In a message dated 4/10/98 10:16:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
bktoys@*********.COM writes:

> If I do go (Still unsure), you are more than welcome to share w me and
> anyone else. As for snoring that is what pillows are for.

They are NOT! Those are for fighting and bashing the munchkins with (EWG),
come on, don't you know that by now??? :)

> Bad Karma

I guess I have to ask, I don't know you in any way, but somehow, I think it
all becomes "so what" considering the massive gathering that could potentially
generate from this.

And as for distance from Florida ... let's see ... St. Petersburg to Lafayette
took me 19 hours straight through at about 75ish the whole way (I understand
they dropped the limits through Alabama and Tennessee since two years ago
btw). What is that??? 1400 miles???

Lafayette is about 1.5 to 2 hours from Chicago, Milwaukee (GenCon) is about 2
more beyond that IIRC (merging distances here).

Jon Szeto is in Kentucky, and hasn't answered my question if he wanted to use
us here in Lafayette as a "Lay Over Site" on his way, IF he was going (I count
him as a really good "Net Friend", as I'm sure others do too now :).

Tinner and Bull are northeast to east of Mike (Airwasp) and I.

If we merged things a bit, we could get some really cool rooms aligned up, BUT
I need to know how and to whom I am paying money.

For about $100 american, a room for all nights of the con would be nice. Food
is probably what, another 100 or so? Gas, could be 30 (I can get to Nashville
on one tank of gas for instance). Extra expenses would vary according to the
insanity I let myself fall into...(no comments from the peanut gallery folks).

Completely possible.

Anyone else?

-K
Message no. 7
From: Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Gen Con List
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:00:45 -0700
After much singing and dancing the following was scribbled down: ;)

> >> Anyways, we loved UWM last year. It has a lot of advantages that I
> could
> >> see, and only one (maybe two) drawback. (God, I sound like a Hotel
Rep
> for
> >> them :))
> >>
> >> ADVANTAGES:
> >>
> >> Cheap -- $88.00 for a 5 person room.
> >
> >OMG!!! Really?!?!?!? SIGN ME UP NOW!!! I am serious, though one
problem.
> I
> >snore...I may have to wind up sleeping in the hall :)

By the time you sleep no one could care.

> 88 / 5 is .... $17.50 a day (not counting if anyone wants to sleep on the
> floor.)
>
> I have a question....How far is GenCon from Florida?? Road Trip...

uhhhh...dunno ask Granite

> >> Spacious -- Individual bed for each of the people the room is
assigned
> too,
> >> and more than enough room for an equal number of sleeping bags.
Plus,
> >> there are three seperate bedrooms to each 5-person suite, so if you
end
> up
> >> with members of the opposite sex (Like we did with Dvixen last year),
> they
> >> can have a seperate room.
> >
> >Ah come on, I did stuff like this in DC. It was TONS of fun with all
the
> >pillow fights that broke out back then... ;)

hmmm...no comment, but I wouldn't take the pillows to the airport (right
Bull? :)


> >> Game Space -- Besides the rooms having lots of space, there are also
> >> mezzanines and "rec rooms" that have several tables, chairs,
couches,
a
> TV,
> >> and a Microwave. Great place for after hours gaming.
> >
> >Oh yeah, the "4 day game sessions" nightmare returns suddenly...
>
>
> No sleep till........

You say that now, but ask anyone what we looked/functioned like the last
night of the tourney after all the sleep deprivation...wasn't pretty.

> >> "Extras" available at the desk -- Things like Clocks, Fans, etc.
that
> you
> >> can sign out and put a deposit down on, which you get back at the end
of
> >> the weekend.
> >>
> >> Bus stop right in front of the hotel -- Cheap and easy transportation
to
> > and from the con.
> >
> >How frequent though? I am assuming it runs on sunday as well? What is
the
> >cost into the CON? Per day? Are there "weekend passes", and if so,
how
> much?

If you register now it's $50 for all four days, dunno about just the
weekend.

> >Guys, in case you haven't guessed, I am SERIOUS here!!!

Good we'd love to have ya.

> Cost is a good thing to find out.
>
> >> DISADVANTAGES:
> >>
> >> No Air Conditioning -- Not a problem last year, but it could be nasty
> come
> >> August this year. There are fans available, but that's not as good
as
> AC.
> >> But then, who's gonna be spending all that much time in the rooms?
> >
> >Tho it has been many years since, I am used to summers in both Floriday
> (St.
> >Petersburg) and Lifetimes in Arizona (all over).
> >
> >> Not walking distance to con -- I'm lazy, so not a problem, and more
ofr
> >> less made up for by easy Bus Access :]
> >
> >Distance is???

Hmmm not sure, but far enough that you won't want to walk.

> >PS... KEEP ME IN TOUCH!!! TELL ME WHO I CAN SHARE A ROOM WITH!!!
> >
> >(yes, I'm yelling out of enthusiasm!!!)

Bull? (He loves it when I deligate to him :)

> If I do go (Still unsure), you are more than welcome to share w me and
> anyone else. As for snoring that is what pillows are for.

Well there ya go :)


Caric-the-I-already-registered-so-neener-neener-shaman
Message no. 8
From: Michael Broadwater <neon@******.BACKBONE.OLEMISS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gen Con List
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:16:44 -0500
I found an article a few years ago, before I went to my first Gencon, on
how to survive the trip. If anyone is interested in it, I still have it on my
HD. Just e-mail and tell me you want it, or, if there's enough interest,
I'll post it to the list.

BTW: it's nice to see that there's so many people interested in going
to GC this year.

Mike Broadwater - Member of the Blackhand and Dwarven Illuminati
http://www.olemiss.edu/~neon
"Everyone wants to be Cary Grant. Even I want to be Cary Grant."
-- Cary Grant
Message no. 9
From: rabiola <rabiola@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Gen Con List
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:18:15 -0500
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Broadwater <neon@******.BACKBONE.OLEMISS.EDU>
To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET <SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET>
Date: Saturday, April 11, 1998 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: Gen Con List


>I found an article a few years ago, before I went to my first Gencon,
on
>how to survive the trip. If anyone is interested in it, I still have
it on my
>HD. Just e-mail and tell me you want it, or, if there's enough
interest,
>I'll post it to the list.
>


Post it! I am sure we would all like to see it, even us veterns...

Tony Rabiola rabiola@**.netcom.com
Fourth and Sixth World Adept
Still working on the Fifth...
Message no. 10
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Gen Con List
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:02:58 -0400
At 03:16 AM 4/11/98 -0500, Michael Broadwater wrote these timeless words:
>I found an article a few years ago, before I went to my first Gencon, on
>how to survive the trip. If anyone is interested in it, I still have it
on my
>HD. Just e-mail and tell me you want it, or, if there's enough interest,
>I'll post it to the list.
>
>BTW: it's nice to see that there's so many people interested in going
>to GC this year.
>
Post it, Mike :]

Bull
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Message no. 11
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Gen Con List
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:02:55 -0400
At 01:00 AM 4/11/98 -0700, Caric wrote these timeless words:

>hmmm...no comment, but I wouldn't take the pillows to the airport (right
>Bull? :)
>
Pillows were fine... But done take a squirt gun :/

>Bull? (He loves it when I deligate to him :)
>
Gee, thanks :]

Bull
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Message no. 12
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Gen Con List
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:59:34 -0600
rabiola wrote:
/
/ >I found an article a few years ago, before I went to my first Gencon,
/ on
/ >how to survive the trip. If anyone is interested in it, I still have
/ it on my
/ >HD. Just e-mail and tell me you want it, or, if there's enough
/ interest,
/ >I'll post it to the list.
/ >
/
/
/ Post it! I am sure we would all like to see it, even us veterns...

Ditto!

-David
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