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Message no. 1
From: Luke Kendall <luke@********.CANON.OZ.AU>
Subject: Gender differences (Re: Vegas)
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 12:08:46 +1000
On Sat, 7 May 1994, Ivy Ryan wrote:
> [Women] really *do* have a different take.

I would agree with this. Many studies also agree with this.
I know of no study that claims that there are no differences
in the way that men and women think - though there is enormous
dispute as to whether this is due to nature or to nurture.

This isn't absolute - i.e. you may find some men who may have
a `take' that is more like a woman's, and vice versa. But these
will be exceptions.

Trying to pretend that differences don't exist is an attitude that
hurts everyone. Appreciating that differences exist, and working
to make the _most_ of those differences, enriches everyone.

Integration, not homogenisation.

luke@********.inc :-)
Message no. 2
From: Ivy Ryan <ivyryan@***.ORG>
Subject: Re: Gender differences (Re: Vegas)
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 13:07:09 -0700
On Mon, 9 May 1994, Luke Kendall wrote:

> On Sat, 7 May 1994, Ivy Ryan wrote:
> > [Women] really *do* have a different take.
>
> I would agree with this. Many studies also agree with this.
> I know of no study that claims that there are no differences
> in the way that men and women think - though there is enormous
> dispute as to whether this is due to nature or to nurture.
>
> This isn't absolute - i.e. you may find some men who may have
> a `take' that is more like a woman's, and vice versa. But these
> will be exceptions.
>
> Trying to pretend that differences don't exist is an attitude that
> hurts everyone. Appreciating that differences exist, and working
> to make the _most_ of those differences, enriches everyone.
>
> Integration, not homogenisation.
I'm quoting the whole thing because I think the whole thing makes
sense. Reality is a funny thing, but we gotta live with it, not try to
live outside it. I went through the Army's whole
integration/homogenisation routine and it really didn't start to work
until the Army figured out that integration was the way to go. The
studies are correct. Let's live with it.
Ivy K

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