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Message no. 1
From: Damion Milliken <u9467882@******.UOW.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: ghosts
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 22:49:46 +0000
Ivy writes:

> Your ghosts walking through people... Historical, and a nice touch. And
> very possible, because of the way a materialized mage operates. The
> Ghost is NOT alive, so it should be able to walk through living things on
> the mundane plane. And, from history, can.

Well, a ghost is "alive" in the sense that it has astral energies, and only
living creatures can produce such energies. Does this mean that a spirit, or
an astrally projecting mage (an astral creature like a ghost) can move thru
living beings?

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Message no. 2
From: Damion Milliken <u9467882@******.UOW.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Ghosts
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 21:32:24 +0000
Ivy writes:

>> So you're saying a ghost has no problem with a living aura
>> because it isn't alive.
>
> Yep, kinda a reverse on the living cannot go through living, ghosts might
> have trouble with unliving things, but not living ones.

Hmm, curious thought. Assuming you count a ghost as actually being dead. If
it is really only a collection of astral energies as the book (seems, to me
anyhow) implies, then no, this would not work.

> That would have to be up to you. I would say that a ghost can pass
> through any dead arua, but magic is an almost living aura. I'd say yes.
> Actually, by history, ghosts has a very tenuous aura anyway, so they
> might be able to go through anything. Including solid walls.

I woulda said that _all_ a ghost has is an aura. I feel someone explained
the idea of ghosts passing through people a while back, and it wasn't too
bad an explanation. If you accept that, then there is no need to get into
a discussion over what happens if you count a ghost as something without
a regular aura. Having an "anti-aura" only complicates things, an astral
being which can pass through auras, but not objects with no aura? A bit
odd to me. Anyway, if you then go and say it does have an aura, then you
defeat the purpose of what you were trying to do. Oh, and remember that even
inanimate objects have auras, so if the ghost could pass through things with
auras, then it could pass through anything, like you want it to.

BTW, if it could only pass through things with auras, how does it get from
place to place if it cannot pass through things with no auras (like walls, or
air)?

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Message no. 3
From: Stuart Skabo <sj_skabo@**********.UTAS.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Ghosts
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 19:04:13 +1000
Damion (prolific as ever!) writes,

>BTW, if it could only pass through things with auras, how does it get from
>place to place if it cannot pass through things with no auras (like walls, or
>air)?

What!! do you mean "no aura" remember that astral space is defined by the
aura of Gaia and as an element (air, earth, fire and water) air has an
aura, just not a very substantial one compared to fire or water which you
can astrally move through but which restrict vision or even earth which is
so solid (if natural that it restricts movement).

nghtchld

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Message no. 4
From: Damion Milliken <u9467882@******.UOW.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Ghosts
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 19:55:52 +0000
nghtchld writes:

> Damion (prolific as ever!) writes,

Like I said over email, look out for Ivy and Doom. :-)

> What!! do you mean "no aura" remember that astral space is defined by the
> aura of Gaia and as an element (air, earth, fire and water) air has an
> aura, just not a very substantial one compared to fire or water which you
> can astrally move through but which restrict vision or even earth which is
> so solid (if natural that it restricts movement).

That was what I was referring to. Someone had proposed that ghosts have the
ability to pass through other auras. This is impossible if a ghost has a
regular aura, so they then proposed that ghosts have special auras which
allowed them to pass only through living things.

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