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Message no. 1
From: Michael Garoni <Michael_Garoni@****.INTERSOLV.COM>
Subject: Gibson - Voodoo Loa
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 09:28:00 LCL
Warlok
:]On a different note: Out of those of you who have read "Mona Lisa Overdrive"
:](Gibson), how would you set up the spririts that "ride" Angie?? It seems to be
:]a form of voodoo, not shamanism. Any suggestions?? I'm still fuzzy on magic...

Smoke:
My understanding was that they were using tech to communicate with the bioware
in her head. The capabilities of that bioware were never really discussed as I
recall. The spirits riding Angie were apects of the Neuromancer/Wintermute AI.
The whole voodoo thing seemed to be just a concept that these aspects grabbed
and liked. By doing that, they managed to get a lot of flesh voodoo-ers
interested, and I think that they even had a few other fleshlings set up to be
mounts. Of course, I could easily be wrong ^shrug^.
Message no. 2
From: What's this button do? <GRAFF85@********.CORTLAND.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gibson - Voodoo Loa
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 19:02:59 -0400
>Warlok
>:]On a different note: Out of those of you who have read "Mona Lisa
Overdrive"
>:](Gibson), how would you set up the spririts that "ride" Angie?? It seems
to be
>:]a form of voodoo, not shamanism. Any suggestions?? I'm still fuzzy on magic...
>
>Smoke:
>My understanding was that they were using tech to communicate with the bioware
>in her head. The capabilities of that bioware were never really discussed as I
>recall. The spirits riding Angie were apects of the Neuromancer/Wintermute AI.
>The whole voodoo thing seemed to be just a concept that these aspects grabbed
>and liked. By doing that, they managed to get a lot of flesh voodoo-ers
>interested, and I think that they even had a few other fleshlings set up to be
>mounts. Of course, I could easily be wrong ^shrug^.

Ok i read all of the books like 3 time each...what I can't understand is what
the biosoft that was grafted into angie's brain actually did? I think that it
was made to restructure part of her mind into a diff thinking
ummm....construction (can't think of anything better). What I can't fathom is
what kind of links were used by the cyber decks to the grid....there seemed to
be no solid link that kept them up and running...case could jack out of his
while the mole did it's work, un-less Dixie Flatline was in a sense running the
show...

if i seem like I am blathering on sorry, trying to provoke a conversation..

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Message no. 3
From: Michael Garoni <Michael_Garoni@****.INTERSOLV.COM>
Subject: Re[2]: Gibson - Voodoo Loa
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:14:00 LCL
Phlatline:
:]Ok i read all of the books like 3 time each...what I can't understand is what
:]the biosoft that was grafted into angie's brain actually did? I think that it
:]was made to restructure part of her mind into a diff thinking
:]ummm....construction (can't think of anything better). What I can't fathom is
:]what kind of links were used by the cyber decks to the grid....there seemed to
:]be no solid link that kept them up and running...case could jack out of his
:]while the mole did it's work, un-less Dixie Flatline was in a sense running
:]the show...
:]
:]if i seem like I am blathering on sorry, trying to provoke a conversation..

Smoke:
I think that I only read it twice before some *&^%&*^$%#%$#%$#@ nicked my entire
set. As such, I can't remember all of the details, but I don't think that it
was ever really explained how the deckers worked. When Case let his mole keep
going after he logged out, to use today's type thinking you could do that. The
important thing about a piece of software is that it needs some hardware to run
on. You could set the mole up as a background task on the target machine, and
then log out. I don't really remember what the mole was doing, but this seems
feasible. You may need to give it a false userid or make it look like an
operating system process ^shrug^. From there, it could even clone itself in an
almost virus like manner, and launch probes against other systems. Even in
Shadowrun terms this could be possible. Somewhere it simplifies matrix work
down to you trying to get programs from your cyberdeck to run on the host, while
IC etc tries to get its programs to run on your deck. If that is the way that
it actually works, someone could create a nasty piece of IC that runs in the
decker's deck and tries to autoactivate as soon as the deckers connects to the
deck. This is all just speculation of the wildest type, but you wanted to start
a conversation!

As to the bioware in Angie - I'm confused! Someone earlier mentioned that
Wintermute had something to do with the design of the bioware, which sounds
familiar. If so, it is likely that it was done so that the AI could experience
the flesh world. Why would it want to? Perhaps it thought it was missing out
on something ? Maybe it wanted to understand more about the motivations of it's
creators etc? Maybe it did see the fragmentation of itself coming, but that
wasn't the impression that I had. I think that when this occured, it simply
took advantage of a situation.

Anybody else have any ideas, comments ?
Message no. 4
From: jacob hawkins <HAWKINSJ@********.WA.COM>
Subject: Re: Gibson - Voodoo Loa
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 08:19:47 LCL
There's a nifty file on voodoun rules for SR on Compuserve
if you have access to that. I downloaded it and printed it off, but
accidentally nuked the file afterwards.

It works a little like totem magic, except (if I remember right) you
have to make a conjuring test to get the Loa to "ride" you. You
start off with one Loa and can get more through spending karma and
making various tests.
Message no. 5
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gibson - Voodoo Loa
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 01:20:23 -0600
On Wed, 2 Mar 1994, jacob hawkins wrote:

> There's a nifty file on voodoun rules for SR on Compuserve
> if you have access to that. I downloaded it and printed it off, but
> accidentally nuked the file afterwards.

There is some voodoo in NERPS: Shadowlore, I believe, which will be
released next month.

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