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Message no. 1
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: GI JOE in SR
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 02:21:43 -0500 (EST)
Hey, what do you guys think of a shadowrun group (a fairly large and well
organised one) based roughly on the GI Joe toys odf the early 80's? The
ones before they got wierd...

Just another wacked out idea I had kicking around in my head....


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Message no. 2
From: Jamie Houston <s430472@*******.gu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:56:33 +1000 (EST)
On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Steven Ratkovich wrote:

> Hey, what do you guys think of a shadowrun group (a fairly large and well
> organised one) based roughly on the GI Joe toys odf the early 80's? The
> ones before they got wierd...
>
> Just another wacked out idea I had kicking around in my head....

*chuckle* I like it...what about He-man? Or if you are really bad...the
Power Rangers? *grin*

Hamish
>
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> "You do more damage out of simple irritation than most
> men can do in a towering rage."
> -David Eddings, "Demon Lord of Karanda
>
>

>From s430472@*******.gu.edu.auFri Aug 16 10:25:29 1996
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 10:24:01 +1000 (EST)
From: Jamie Houston <s430472@*******.gu.edu.au>
To: "JAMIE A. HOUSTON" <s430472@*****.student.gu.edu.au>



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aka Bollox, Hamish,(and * a cute thing to tell him is "God is
lots of other unmentionable * crying"...And if he asks why God is
pseudonyms) * crying, another cute thing to tell
s430472@*****.student.gu.edu.au * him is "It's probably something
Griffith Uni * you did!"
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Message no. 3
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:27:41 -0500 (EST)
>On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Steven Ratkovich wrote:
>
>> Hey, what do you guys think of a shadowrun group (a fairly large and well
>> organised one) based roughly on the GI Joe toys odf the early 80's? The
>> ones before they got wierd...
>>
>> Just another wacked out idea I had kicking around in my head....
>
>*chuckle* I like it...what about He-man? Or if you are really bad...the
>Power Rangers? *grin*
>

I saw the Power Rangers in Battletech somewhere not long ago...:) And He
man would be interesting...:) We'll see...:)


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Message no. 4
From: bluewizard@*****.com (Steven A. Tinner)
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:37:04 -0500 (EST)
Here's what I really want to know as far as GI JOE in SR.
Never mind putting the JOE team in the game. I want the SR PC's as action
figures!!

Call me sick, but I would LOVE to have a Harlequin toy, maybe with some
ritual material accessories! Or even a summoned spirit packaged with him!

And they could do the exploding Dunkelzhan action figure! With real
political explosion action!

And the Space Needle Playset!

And the Ghost/Dodger/Sally Tsung triple action pack!

OOOhhhhh! The possibilities are ENDLESS!!

Seriously though, FASA has done very little marketing of SR. Aside from the
SNES and SEGA video games, I can't think of anything else.

Anyone else out there like to see a SERIOUS animated SR cartoon series? Or
dare I hope Action figures?

(Confession - I swiped my kid brother's GI JOE's and a small screwdriver,
and made my own Shadowrunner action figures - It worked pretty well, but I'd
still like to see an "OFFICIAL" line . . .must be the collector in me :-))


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Message no. 5
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:56:26 -0500 (EST)
>Here's what I really want to know as far as GI JOE in SR.
>Never mind putting the JOE team in the game. I want the SR PC's as action
>figures!!
>
>Seriously though, FASA has done very little marketing of SR. Aside from the
>SNES and SEGA video games, I can't think of anything else.
>
>Anyone else out there like to see a SERIOUS animated SR cartoon series? Or
>dare I hope Action figures?
>
>(Confession - I swiped my kid brother's GI JOE's and a small screwdriver,
>and made my own Shadowrunner action figures - It worked pretty well, but I'd
>still like to see an "OFFICIAL" line . . .must be the collector in me :-))
>
>
You're reading my mind again, you rat bastard>..:)

I was trhinking about this earlier today!

I really need to stop hanging out with you so much, Tinner...:)


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Message no. 6
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 12:36:08 +0100
Jamie Houston said on 10:56/23 Sep 96...

> > Just another wacked out idea I had kicking around in my head....
>
> *chuckle* I like it...what about He-man? Or if you are really bad...the
> Power Rangers? *grin*
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The Horrors aren't coming in the near future, haven't you figured that out
yet?! :)

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Message no. 7
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 12:36:08 +0100
Steven A. Tinner said on 1:37/23 Sep 96...

> Seriously though, FASA has done very little marketing of SR. Aside from the
> SNES and SEGA video games, I can't think of anything else.

Well, there's the novels (they're not published by FASA but by ROC Books,
owned by Penguin), T-shirts, and embroidered shirts, hats, sweatshirts,
and jackets. Not to mention the 25 mm figures, although of course they're
aimed at roleplayers, not the general public. (Come to think of it, who
but SR players buys SR novels anyway?)

> Anyone else out there like to see a SERIOUS animated SR cartoon series?
> Or dare I hope Action figures?

No and no on both counts. I've seen the BattleTech show (only because I
wanted to see what they'd made of it) and it sucks! An SR cartoon would be
along the same lines as all the other cartoons: good guys (the runners)
vs. the bad guys (the corps, Humanis members, etc.) without anyone getting
killed or wounded or whatever, because hey, it's a kids' show isn't it? I
don't want to see any SR show unless it's a *serious* attempt to
(re)create the sixth world.

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Message no. 8
From: bluewizard@*****.com (Steven A. Tinner)
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:05:44 -0500 (EST)
>Steven A. Tinner said on 1:37/23 Sep 96...
>
>> Seriously though, FASA has done very little marketing of SR. Aside from the
>> SNES and SEGA video games, I can't think of anything else.
>
>Well, there's the novels (they're not published by FASA but by ROC Books,
>owned by Penguin), T-shirts, and embroidered shirts, hats, sweatshirts,
>and jackets. Not to mention the 25 mm figures, although of course they're
>aimed at roleplayers, not the general public. (Come to think of it, who
>but SR players buys SR novels anyway?)

Apparently quite a few people. These little buggers come in at the top of
the genre market rather often! There's got to be someone else reading this
stuff other than SR players.

>> Anyone else out there like to see a SERIOUS animated SR cartoon series?
>> Or dare I hope Action figures?
>
>No and no on both counts. I've seen the BattleTech show (only because I
>wanted to see what they'd made of it) and it sucks! An SR cartoon would be
>along the same lines as all the other cartoons: good guys (the runners)
>vs. the bad guys (the corps, Humanis members, etc.) without anyone getting
>killed or wounded or whatever, because hey, it's a kids' show isn't it? I
>don't want to see any SR show unless it's a *serious* attempt to
>(re)create the sixth world.

That's what I meant by a SERIOUS cartoon. Something along the lines of
Japanese Anime.
Maybe done ala Akira, or Golog 13 (Who incidently would make a great
Shadowrunner)
If you havent seen these flick, you should take a peek at them, and then
ponder a SR cartoon done in that style.


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Message no. 9
From: dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:57:21 -0600 (MDT)
Gurth wrote:
|
|Steven A. Tinner said on 1:37/23 Sep 96...
|
|> Anyone else out there like to see a SERIOUS animated SR cartoon series?
|> Or dare I hope Action figures?
|
|No and no on both counts. I've seen the BattleTech show (only because I
|wanted to see what they'd made of it) and it sucks! An SR cartoon would be
|along the same lines as all the other cartoons: good guys (the runners)
|vs. the bad guys (the corps, Humanis members, etc.) without anyone getting
|killed or wounded or whatever, because hey, it's a kids' show isn't it? I
|don't want to see any SR show unless it's a *serious* attempt to
|(re)create the sixth world.

If they gave it to the same people that do WB's Batman or
Disney's Gargoyles then I would watch it.

-David

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Message no. 10
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 17:53:18 -0500 (EST)
>Gurth wrote:
>|
>|Steven A. Tinner said on 1:37/23 Sep 96...
>|
>|> Anyone else out there like to see a SERIOUS animated SR cartoon series?
>|> Or dare I hope Action figures?
>|
>|No and no on both counts. I've seen the BattleTech show (only because I
>|wanted to see what they'd made of it) and it sucks! An SR cartoon would be
>|along the same lines as all the other cartoons: good guys (the runners)
>|vs. the bad guys (the corps, Humanis members, etc.) without anyone getting
>|killed or wounded or whatever, because hey, it's a kids' show isn't it? I
>|don't want to see any SR show unless it's a *serious* attempt to
>|(re)create the sixth world.
>
>If they gave it to the same people that do WB's Batman or
>Disney's Gargoyles then I would watch it.
>
>-David
>
I agree, I don't think it would HAVE to be terribly violent to be good, just
serious. I would also nominate the people who did the Savage Dragon cartoon
on USA... they did a good job of taking a violent comic book series with
plenty of blood, half nakkid chicks and swearing, and managed to clean it up
but stay faithful to the action and story of the comics.

If they did do a cartoon, though, I would highly recommend FASA keep
creative control... That's why these things turn out so lame... The
creators don't work with the cartoonists...:)


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# chaos@*****.com #
# Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours? #
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men can do in a towering rage."
-David Eddings, "Demon Lord of Karanda
Message no. 11
From: Edward Paul <doyle@******.edu>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:58:47 -1000
> >|Steven A. Tinner said on 1:37/23 Sep 96...
> >|
> >|> Anyone else out there like to see a SERIOUS animated SR cartoon series?

Personally, I'd like to see Shadowrun in HBO movies. HBO does an
excellent job and I'd like to see them move into the science fiction
genre.

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Message no. 12
From: bluewizard@*****.com (Steven A. Tinner)
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:50:01 -0500 (EST)
>> >|Steven A. Tinner said on 1:37/23 Sep 96...
>> >|
>> >|> Anyone else out there like to see a SERIOUS animated SR cartoon series?
>
> Personally, I'd like to see Shadowrun in HBO movies. HBO does an
>excellent job and I'd like to see them move into the science fiction
>genre.

HEY!
There's a concept I hadn't thought of! That would be good!


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Message no. 13
From: Loki <loki@*******.com>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 01:00:02 -0700
Steven A. Tinner wrote:
<SNIP>
> Seriously though, FASA has done very little marketing of SR. Aside from the
> SNES and SEGA video games, I can't think of anything else.
>
> Anyone else out there like to see a SERIOUS animated SR cartoon series? Or
> dare I hope Action figures?

Don't know if I'd be into the Action Figures, but I think I'd go for a
animated series of full-length animated move.

I've heard rumors of FASA hitting th silver screen. Truth to this?

My only reservation would be FASA releasing any cartoon or film is kind
of ruling on how certain items/rules/characters should be played or
viewed and isn't the ambiguity part of the RPG universe?
@>-,--'--- Loki

CLARKE'S THIRD LAW:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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Message no. 14
From: GRANITE <granite@**.net>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:21:54 -0700
Edward Paul wrote:
>
> > >|Steven A. Tinner said on 1:37/23 Sep 96...
> > >|
> > >|> Anyone else out there like to see a SERIOUS animated SR cartoon
series?

This would be cool..The BT cartoons would be better if they had better
artwork..I have a tape of the test animation they did before they did the
series..Good doesn't even get close to disribing the quality of what they had
on the first part of the tape..It was beyond the quality of Babylon 5 in
quality..The mechs looked REAL..There was some talk of using this animation
in a live action movie..Anyway they had to tone down to better fit it with
the normal [cartoon] animation..I would have liked it better if they went
with the better stuff and went for a ReBoot sort of animation..Anyway I get
lost wandering around my point..I would like to see something like this
too..in the spirit/quality of Akira..But not the Anima style..The BIG eyes
and fly away hair REALLY gets on my nerves..ANd there does NOT have to be a
couple of STUPID characters that are poorly drawn who's sole purpose is comic
relief..AArgh!!!
>
> Personally, I'd like to see Shadowrun in HBO movies. HBO does an
> excellent job and I'd like to see them move into the science fiction
> genre.

I would like this even MORE..The tech is here to do all the Meta types and
magic and Cyberspace..And make it look like it is supposed to..BUT..If they
do this they will HAVE to spend enough time/money on the computer
graphics..otherwise you get a stinker like "Species" A really cool movie with
everything it takes to make it in the big time..EXCEPT when they start
showing the LAME CARTOON of a monster..I laughed..H#ll they would have been
better off with a guy in a rubber suit..At least then it would have looked
like it was actually in the scene..Anyway..IF is done like they really mean
it they could make the big time..And the path has been paved by movies like
"Hackers", " Jonny Mneumonic", "Tek Wars", and the like that
main streamers
would be able to accept the concept with little adjustment..

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Message no. 15
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 05:00:20 -0500 (EST)
>Steven A. Tinner wrote:
><SNIP>
>> Seriously though, FASA has done very little marketing of SR. Aside from the
>> SNES and SEGA video games, I can't think of anything else.
>>
>> Anyone else out there like to see a SERIOUS animated SR cartoon series? Or
>> dare I hope Action figures?
>
>Don't know if I'd be into the Action Figures, but I think I'd go for a
>animated series of full-length animated move.
>
>I've heard rumors of FASA hitting th silver screen. Truth to this?
>
>My only reservation would be FASA releasing any cartoon or film is kind
>of ruling on how certain items/rules/characters should be played or
>viewed and isn't the ambiguity part of the RPG universe?
>

Keep it simple and basic... The movie wouldn't have to be about Dunk and
Harley and the gang, just about Shadowrunning... As long as it's faithful
to the feel of the game...:)


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# chaos@*****.com #
# Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours? #
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"You do more damage out of simple irritation than most
men can do in a towering rage."
-David Eddings, "Demon Lord of Karanda
Message no. 16
From: Loki <loki@*******.com>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 01:53:01 -0700
Steven A. Tinner wrote:
<SNIP comments on who reads the novels and buys lead figures>
>
> That's what I meant by a SERIOUS cartoon. Something along the lines of
> Japanese Anime.
> Maybe done ala Akira, or Golog 13 (Who incidently would make a great
> Shadowrunner)
> If you havent seen these flick, you should take a peek at them, and then
> ponder a SR cartoon done in that style.

Personally I recommend Ghost in the Machine as a good S/R genre
japanimation. http://www.polygram.com/manga/



@>-,--'--- Loki

CLARKE'S THIRD LAW:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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Message no. 17
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 05:35:06 -0500 (EST)
>Steven A. Tinner wrote:
><SNIP comments on who reads the novels and buys lead figures>
>>
>> That's what I meant by a SERIOUS cartoon. Something along the lines of
>> Japanese Anime.
>> Maybe done ala Akira, or Golog 13 (Who incidently would make a great
>> Shadowrunner)
>> If you havent seen these flick, you should take a peek at them, and then
>> ponder a SR cartoon done in that style.
>
>Personally I recommend Ghost in the Machine as a good S/R genre
>japanimation. http://www.polygram.com/manga/
>
>
Oh yeah, I saw that not long ago... Very good flick.

I've seen a lot of cyberpunk-genre movies, but nothing yet with Shadowrun's
Fantasy Twist...:)


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# chaos@*****.com #
# Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours? #
#######################################################

"You do more damage out of simple irritation than most
men can do in a towering rage."
-David Eddings, "Demon Lord of Karanda
Message no. 18
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:22:52 +0100
Steven Ratkovich said on 17:53/23 Sep 96...

> I agree, I don't think it would HAVE to be terribly violent to be good, just
> serious.

Nobody said anything about terrible violence :) However, I wouldn't want
things like you see in those kids' cartoons, where the whole screen is red
from the laser bolts, and all that gets hit is a robot, out of 100 enemies
walking into the hail of fire.

> I would also nominate the people who did the Savage Dragon cartoon
> on USA... they did a good job of taking a violent comic book series with
> plenty of blood, half nakkid chicks and swearing, and managed to clean it up
> but stay faithful to the action and story of the comics.

I don't want cleaned up versions of things, or "Parental advisory" stickers
on them -- I think they're just pathetic. I'd want an SR cartoon or movie
or whatever to be as the SR world is portrayed in the novels and
sourcebooks.

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Message no. 19
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:22:53 +0100
Loki said on 1:00/24 Sep 96...

> I've heard rumors of FASA hitting th silver screen. Truth to this?

Is this the same rumor that was flying around 2 1/2 years ago, or a new
one? Back then, there was talk of a BattleTech movie, which eventually
turned out to be the cartoon I think.

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Message no. 20
From: dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:55:12 -0600 (MDT)
Gurth wrote:
|
|I don't want cleaned up versions of things, or "Parental advisory" stickers
|on them -- I think they're just pathetic. I'd want an SR cartoon or movie
|or whatever to be as the SR world is portrayed in the novels and
|sourcebooks.

That would definitely suck. Like what they did to TMNT. A great comic
that got completely trashed.

-David

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"His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and breaking
alliances like underpants in a dryer without Cling Free."
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Message no. 21
From: Mike Elkins <MikeE@*********.com>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR -Reply
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:51:13 -0500
>But not the Anima style..The BIG eyes and fly away hair REALLY gets on my
>nerves..

HEY! Some of us really have BIG eyes and fly away hair...

(so I'm a Captain Harlock wannabe... sue me)

:)

Double-Domed Mike
Message no. 22
From: GRANITE <granite@**.net>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR -Reply
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:55:34 -0700
Mike Elkins wrote:
> >But not the Anima style..The BIG eyes and fly away hair REALLY gets on my
> >nerves..
>
> HEY! Some of us really have BIG eyes and fly away hair...
> (so I'm a Captain Harlock wannabe... sue me)

If your hair does the Capt Harlock thing..I would say it is time for you
to pay an emergency visit
to your local barber..NOT a stylist..she will only tell you it looks
good..so she can charge you
more for doing less..I mean a real barber with a red and white pole out
front and some old
geezer with white hair pushing the scissors and puts that smelly blue
stuff in your hair when he's
done..As for the eyes..I hear some females like that sort of thing [that
of course would be a good
thing]..If you don't find any females that like them I suppose you could
pick up some of those big
clunky visors to cover them..
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Lord, Grant Me The Serinity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serinity Prayer
Message no. 23
From: James Ojaste <jojaste@*****.csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 12:36:12 -0400 (EDT)
> Steven A. Tinner wrote:
> <SNIP comments on who reads the novels and buys lead figures>
> >
> > That's what I meant by a SERIOUS cartoon. Something along the lines of

*cringe* It's animation, not a cartoon... Matter of personal preference,
but it brings to mind a cross between Riding Bean and the Road Runner...
*shudder*

> > Japanese Anime.
> > Maybe done ala Akira, or Golog 13 (Who incidently would make a great
> > Shadowrunner)
> > If you havent seen these flick, you should take a peek at them, and then
> > ponder a SR cartoon done in that style.
>
> Personally I recommend Ghost in the Machine as a good S/R genre
> japanimation. http://www.polygram.com/manga/

I agree there - GitM is *highly* recommended (hey, even Siskel & Ebert
liked it!).

I'd also suggest Battle Angel Alita (going by english titles), Venus Wars,
Riding Bean (for a rigger's perspective), and especially Armitage III.

James
Message no. 24
From: Jamie Houston <s430472@*******.gu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:03:20 +1000 (EST)
On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Gurth wrote:

> Jamie Houston said on 10:56/23 Sep 96...
>
> > > Just another wacked out idea I had kicking around in my head....
> >
> > *chuckle* I like it...what about He-man? Or if you are really bad...the
> > Power Rangers? *grin*
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> The Horrors aren't coming in the near future, haven't you figured that out
> yet?! :)
>
The Power Rangers are horrors?! *stunned look* :)
Surely not the pink power ranger...she's a babe!
*grin*

Hamish, the pink power ranger lovin Scot



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Jamie Houston * "If a kid asks why it's raining,
aka Bollox, Hamish,(and * a cute thing to tell him is "God is
lots of other unmentionable * crying"...And if he asks why God is
pseudonyms) * crying, another cute thing to tell
s430472@*****.student.gu.edu.au * him is "It's probably something
Griffith Uni * you did!"
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Message no. 25
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 20:28:46 -0500 (EST)
>On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Gurth wrote:
>
>> Jamie Houston said on 10:56/23 Sep 96...
>>
>> > > Just another wacked out idea I had kicking around in my head....
>> >
>> > *chuckle* I like it...what about He-man? Or if you are really bad...the
>> > Power Rangers? *grin*
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> The Horrors aren't coming in the near future, haven't you figured that out
>> yet?! :)
>>
>The Power Rangers are horrors?! *stunned look* :)
>Surely not the pink power ranger...she's a babe!
>*grin*
>

Sorryg, even her... However, she surly is a mightgy cute horror...:)

It's her special power... You like it when she eats you... Your soul, taht
is...



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Message no. 26
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:25:20 +0100
Jamie Houston said on 10:03/26 Sep 96...

> > > Power Rangers? *grin*
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > The Horrors aren't coming in the near future, haven't you figured that out
> > yet?! :)
> >
> The Power Rangers are horrors?! *stunned look* :)
> Surely not the pink power ranger...she's a babe!
> *grin*

>From what I've seen of the Power Rangers (very little, I'm relieved to
say), it MUST be Horror-controlled. The whole thing is so clear you can
give it to LJ for her windows *grin* -- the pink power ranger may look
like a babe, but in reality she probably has more eyes and mouths than
Paolo's trademarked smiley. It's all part of a ploy to lure people to
their doom :)

> Hamish, the pink power ranger lovin Scot

Have you thought about seeing a psychiatrist? :)

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Message no. 27
From: Jamie Houston <s430472@*******.gu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:44:41 +1000 (EST)
On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Steven Ratkovich wrote:

> >On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Gurth wrote:
> >
> >> Jamie Houston said on 10:56/23 Sep 96...
> >>
> >> > > Just another wacked out idea I had kicking around in my head....
> >> >
> >> > *chuckle* I like it...what about He-man? Or if you are really bad...the

> >> > Power Rangers? *grin*
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> The Horrors aren't coming in the near future, haven't you figured that out
> >> yet?! :)
> >>
> >The Power Rangers are horrors?! *stunned look* :)
> >Surely not the pink power ranger...she's a babe!
> >*grin*
> >
>
> Sorryg, even her... However, she surly is a mightgy cute horror...:)

Yeah...hurt me...PLEASE!!! :)
>
> It's her special power... You like it when she eats you... Your soul, taht
> is...

Riiiight...your soul...yeah *grin*

Hamish
Message no. 28
From: Jamie Houston <s430472@*******.gu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:15:57 +1000 (EST)
On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Gurth wrote:

> Jamie Houston said on 10:03/26 Sep 96...
>
> > > > Power Rangers? *grin*
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > The Horrors aren't coming in the near future, haven't you figured that out
> > > yet?! :)
> > >
> > The Power Rangers are horrors?! *stunned look* :)
> > Surely not the pink power ranger...she's a babe!
> > *grin*
>
> >From what I've seen of the Power Rangers (very little, I'm relieved to
> say), it MUST be Horror-controlled. The whole thing is so clear you can
> give it to LJ for her windows *grin* -- the pink power ranger may look
> like a babe, but in reality she probably has more eyes and mouths than
> Paolo's trademarked smiley. It's all part of a ploy to lure people to
> their doom :)
>
You do realise you have just crushed my fantasy about marrying the Pink
Power Ranger some day....I don't want to be skin twisted on my honey-moon
though! *sob* i don't care...if the Pink Power Ranger is my doom, then so
be it...what a way to go! *grin*

Hamish, the doomed Scot


______________________________________________________________________
Jamie Houston * "If a kid asks why it's raining,
aka Bollox, Hamish,(and * a cute thing to tell him is "God is
lots of other unmentionable * crying"...And if he asks why God is
pseudonyms) * crying, another cute thing to tell
s430472@*****.student.gu.edu.au * him is "It's probably something
Griffith Uni * you did!"
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Message no. 29
From: GRANITE <granite@**.net>
Subject: Re: GI JOE in SR
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 14:32:57 -0700
Jamie Houston wrote:
> > The Horrors aren't coming in the near future, haven't you figured that out
> > yet?! :)
> >
> The Power Rangers are horrors?! *stunned look* :)
> Surely not the pink power ranger...she's a babe!
> *grin*

Ah..Now that would be a Horror of a different color....Alright..so it
sounds better when the guard at the gate to the Emerald City says it....
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Lord, Grant Me The Serinity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serinity Prayer

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