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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Lubzens Opher)
Subject: GLN's and Assault Rifles
Date: Thu Dec 6 12:30:01 2001
What skills do you use when shooting GLN fitted in the underbarrel mount
of AR?

Opher Lubzens
-every light casts shadows
Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (LeBlanc, Lange)
Subject: GLN's and Assault Rifles
Date: Thu Dec 6 12:45:01 2001
>What skills do you use when shooting GLN fitted in the underbarrel
mount
>of AR?

>Opher Lubzens
>-every light casts shadows

Well, dunno if the book rules contradict this one (don't have them with
me at the moment), but in my game any multi-weapon requires the
appropriate skill for the appropriate weapon being fired (Assault
Rifles, Launch Weapons, Shotguns, etc). There is quite a difference
aiming and firing the assault rifle from the grenade launcher. The
physics and balistics are just so different. That's my interpretation
anyway.

It's already happened in my game that the ex-soldier character was
covering the group's retreat with his souped-up assault rifle, and
realised that a well-placed grenade from the under-barrel launcher would
do the trick. Unfortunately, he didn't have the appropriate skill, so
after skill defaulting and getting some predictably crappy rolls, the
grenade skipped off the building in the background and hammered a few
group members instead. Nothing fatal, but fotsa fun from where I was
sitting ;-)
Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Anders Swenson)
Subject: GLN's and Assault Rifles
Date: Thu Dec 6 13:20:01 2001
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:45:20 -0400
"LeBlanc, Lange" <Lange@***.ca> wrote:
>
> >What skills do you use when shooting GLN fitted in the
> underbarrel
> mount
> >of AR?
>
> >Opher Lubzens
> >-every light casts shadows
>
> Well, dunno if the book rules contradict this one (don't
> have them with
> me at the moment), but in my game any multi-weapon
> requires the
> appropriate skill for the appropriate weapon being fired
> (Assault
> Rifles, Launch Weapons, Shotguns, etc). There is quite a
> difference
> aiming and firing the assault rifle from the grenade
> launcher. The
> physics and balistics are just so different. That's my
> interpretation
> anyway.
>
> It's already happened in my game that the ex-soldier
> character was
> covering the group's retreat with his souped-up assault
> rifle, and
> realised that a well-placed grenade from the under-barrel
> launcher would
> do the trick. Unfortunately, he didn't have the
> appropriate skill, so
> after skill defaulting and getting some predictably
> crappy rolls, the
> grenade skipped off the building in the background and
> hammered a few
> group members instead. Nothing fatal, but fotsa fun from
> where I was
> sitting ;-)

I make sure to give my character both rifle and grenade
launcher skills.

--Anders
Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (LeBlanc, Lange)
Subject: GLN's and Assault Rifles
Date: Thu Dec 6 13:25:00 2001
<SNIP>
>
>> It's already happened in my game that the ex-soldier
>> character was
>> covering the group's retreat with his souped-up assault
>> rifle, and
>> realised that a well-placed grenade from the under-barrel
>> launcher would
>> do the trick. Unfortunately, he didn't have the
>> appropriate skill, so
>> after skill defaulting and getting some predictably
>> crappy rolls, the
>> grenade skipped off the building in the background and
>> hammered a few
>> group members instead. Nothing fatal, but fotsa fun from
>> where I was
>> sitting ;-)

>I make sure to give my character both rifle and grenade
>launcher skills.

>--Anders


You'd think he would have thought of that too, huh? ;-) The group was a
bit stressed when it all happened, but we all had a good laugh about it
a few hours later...
Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: GLN's and Assault Rifles
Date: Thu Dec 6 21:25:01 2001
> What skills do you use when shooting GLN fitted in
the underbarrel mount of AR?
> Opher Lubzens

Launch Weapons if you have it, otherwise you can
default to Assault Rifles at only a +2 (or +1?).

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Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Damion Milliken)
Subject: GLN's and Assault Rifles
Date: Fri Dec 7 02:10:05 2001
Lubzens Opher writes:

> What skills do you use when shooting GLN fitted in the underbarrel mount
> of AR?

In the Skills section of SR3, it says:

"Note that if a character has a weapon with an underbarrel grenade
launcher, the player can default to that weapon's skill as if
defaulting to a base skill within the same grouping (+2 modifier to
the target number, 1/2 Combat Pool)."

So the aforementioned grenade launcher on the underbarrel mount of an
assault rifle may be fired with:

* Launch Weapons, at no penalties.
* Assault Rifles, at +2 and 1/2 Combat Pool.
* Gunnery, at +2 and 1/2 Combat Pool.
* Intelligence, at +4 and no Combat Pool.

--
Damion Milliken University of Wollongong
Unofficial Shadowrun Guru E-mail: dam01@***.edu.au
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Message no. 7
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: GLN's and Assault Rifles
Date: Fri Dec 7 06:40:14 2001
According to Lubzens Opher, on Thu, 06 Dec 2001 the word on the street was...

> What skills do you use when shooting GLN fitted in the underbarrel mount
> of AR?

A grenade launcher uses Launch Weapons skill, though you can default to the
skill for the weapon on which it's mounted at only a +2 modifier and
one-half Combat Pool.

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