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Message no. 1
From: The Deb Decker <RJR96326@****.UTULSA.EDU>
Subject: GM List
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 23:07:54 -0600
As promised, it's the. . .

THE 28 TYPES OF GAME MASTER
by Scott Butler and J.D. Frazer updated 4-25-89

1) Munchkin - "Having slain the hordes of Azoth single-handedly,
without even unsheathing the Sword of Universal Destruction, your half
grey elven/half gold dragon 50th-level paladin/MU/Cleric/Monk/Bard gazes
down upon the pitiful Cthulhu who grovels at his feet..."

2) Monty Haul (variation on the Munchkin, but characters tend to be
lower level) - "You are each granted one wish."
"I wish to have the hand and eye of Vecna."
"I wish to have the flask of Teurny the Merciless."
"I wish to have . . ."
"Poof, they appear in front of you. Now what do you do?"
(This actually happened, years ago, when we first started playing.)

3) Whining Munchkin - "But, but, you guys CAN'T do that! It's my only
dungeon! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaail!"

4) Killer Munchkin - "You guys are dead."

5) Killer - "As you pull aside the tapestry, a green slime jumps upon
you from behind it, killing you . . . nope, no `to hit' or saving throw
allowed, it says so right here."

6) Executioner - "A hidden blade slides down the doorway, mincing the
two fighters and the cleric. The thief gets nine crossbow bolts in his
back, and the magic user is hit by an intense beam of light, burning a
hole through his head."

7) Troublemaker - singles out one player and continually hands him/her
notes which read "Don't let anyone know there is nothing on this note."

8) Cheater - "I don't care if you hit on an 18 LAST time, THIS time
you missed, and I don't want to hear another thing about it."

9) Die Modifier - "Yeah, yeah, so you rolled a 20. You missed. Secret
modifiers, you know."

10) Enforcer - "A blue bolt from heaven strikes Harold the Whiner,
reducing him to one hit point. Anybody else got a problem with this campaign?"

11) Novice - "You rolled a 2 on your `to hit' roll. Did you want high
or low?"

12) Verbose - "The door is solid oak, bound with 4 iron bands of
roughly equal width, spaced equidistant along its width, and the wood is
polished smooth, stained a dark brown, except for a small patch near the
bottom which is blacker. The hinges are not visible from this side, but
you notice the exquisite design of the lock, the faceplate of which is a
starburst design, edged in gold or maybe polished copper or brass, it's
kind of hard to tell with the torchlight, but the knocker is definitely
cast iron and you see . . ."
(sounds of snoring from party members)

13) Poker Face - "The slave you rescued courteously accepts your offer
to accompany you and thanks you for your trust in her . . ."

14) No Poker Face - "The slave you rescued, hee hee, courteously
accepts your offer, snort, to accompany you and thanks you for your trust
in her, hah hah . . . boy are you gonna get it now . . . giggle . . ."

15) Timid - "The orc hits you for 4 points of damage, if that's OK
with you, Steve. Really, you've got 17 hit points left and he has only 2,
so you'll be okay, OK?"

16) DePalma school of blood and gore - "Your magic drill cleaves the
demon's skull in twain and it literally explodes, spattering everyone
with blood and brains. An unsightly green ichor drips from your face as
you watch the smoldering corpse churn before you like a baby in a blender
and finally settle into a puddle of vomit and excrement . . ."

17) Gibson school of writing graduate - "The view in the crystal ball
was the colour of television, tuned to a dead channel."

18) Vengeful - "You won't go out with me Saturday? Okay, all of the
were-rats attack Christine."

19) AD&D'er - "The 100 peasants beat at your fighter ineffectually with
their sticks and pitchforks until you have slain them all. A heroic effort on
your part."

20) Anti-AD&D'er - "The 100 peasants overbear your fighter with their great
numbers and, unable to move under the weight of their hordes, you squirm
helplessly as they pry open your field plate and skewer you like a lobster.
You die an ignoble death."

21) Stickler For Detail - "Taking into account atmospheric conditions,
the acceleration due to gravity, the low drag coefficient of your greased
plate mail, your high dexterity, the gold in your backpack, your
associated credit rating, the eggs you had for breakfast . . . and the
average number of chickens who would remain inside the coop on a warm
day, you have to roll 13 or better to survive the fall . . ."

22) No Originality - "It's a quest, see, you're trying to take this
ring to Mordor, to drop it into a volcano to destroy it. No, no, honest,
I thought of this campaign myself . . ."

23) Leading and Overbearing - "You pump the bartender for information
and he tells you about a red dragon's lair to the west."
"Too risky. We go to hear rumours somewhere else."
"A man offers to hire you to clean out a red dragon's lair for him."
"We say `no, thank you' and leave for the next village."
"On the way to the village you stumble onto a red dragon's lair . . ."

24) Schmuck - "Oh. Can someone really do that? Okay, I'll let you have
a 50% chance. Oh. Okay, 75% then."

25) Ghoul - "That's the 17th character you rolled tonight?
Mouahahahahahahahahahah!"

26) Absolute Monarch - "The huge Red Dragon CAN fit through the little
hole, 'cause I SAID SO!"

27) Unimaginative - "You walk into the bar and see thirty mercenaries
all wearing scalemail and carrying longswords. They all sit at seperate
tables."

28) Design Zealot - "I just need another 15 minutes. I only have 3
more levels to populate."
Message no. 2
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@****.COM>
Subject: Re: GM List
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 01:00:28 -0500
These lists are great...thanks _very_ much for posting 'em! Do
you have much more like this? =^>

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< "These guys kick ass!" >-----------------\
< -Butthead > J.D. Falk <
< "Yeah, they could kick our ass!" > jdfalk@****.com <
< -Beavis >-----------------/
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s+ n@ h* f+(++) !g w+ t+ r+(++) y+
Message no. 3
From: The Deb Decker <RJR96326@****.UTULSA.EDU>
Subject: Re: GM List
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 11:44:23 -0600
> These lists are great...thanks _very_ much for posting 'em! Do
>you have much more like this? =^>

Thank you. I grabbed them off of IO.COM in the humor directory. That's
all the gaming-related stuuf I took, thought the real list is there.

Make SR versions of them? Hah! When I have time!


J Roberson
Message no. 4
From: Loki <jek5313@*******.TAMU.EDU>
Subject: GM List
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:08:13 -0600
As promised, it's the. . .

THE 28 TYPES OF GAME MASTER
by Scott Butler and J.D. Frazer updated 4-25-89

1) Munchkin - "Having slain the hordes of Azoth single-handedly,
without even unsheathing the Sword of Universal Destruction, your half
grey elven/half gold dragon 50th-level paladin/MU/Cleric/Monk/Bard gazes
down upon the pitiful Cthulhu who grovels at his feet..."

2) Monty Haul (variation on the Munchkin, but characters tend to be
lower level) - "You are each granted one wish."
"I wish to have the hand and eye of Vecna."
"I wish to have the flask of Teurny the Merciless."
"I wish to have . . ."
"Poof, they appear in front of you. Now what do you do?"
(This actually happened, years ago, when we first started playing.)

3) Whining Munchkin - "But, but, you guys CAN'T do that! It's my only
dungeon! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaail!"

4) Killer Munchkin - "You guys are dead."

5) Killer - "As you pull aside the tapestry, a green slime jumps upon
you from behind it, killing you . . . nope, no `to hit' or saving throw
allowed, it says so right here."

6) Executioner - "A hidden blade slides down the doorway, mincing the
two fighters and the cleric. The thief gets nine crossbow bolts in his
back, and the magic user is hit by an intense beam of light, burning a
hole through his head."

7) Troublemaker - singles out one player and continually hands him/her
notes which read "Don't let anyone know there is nothing on this note."

8) Cheater - "I don't care if you hit on an 18 LAST time, THIS time
you missed, and I don't want to hear another thing about it."

9) Die Modifier - "Yeah, yeah, so you rolled a 20. You missed. Secret
modifiers, you know."

10) Enforcer - "A blue bolt from heaven strikes Harold the Whiner,
reducing him to one hit point. Anybody else got a problem with this campaign?"

11) Novice - "You rolled a 2 on your `to hit' roll. Did you want high
or low?"

12) Verbose - "The door is solid oak, bound with 4 iron bands of
roughly equal width, spaced equidistant along its width, and the wood is
polished smooth, stained a dark brown, except for a small patch near the
bottom which is blacker. The hinges are not visible from this side, but
you notice the exquisite design of the lock, the faceplate of which is a
starburst design, edged in gold or maybe polished copper or brass, it's
kind of hard to tell with the torchlight, but the knocker is definitely
cast iron and you see . . ."
(sounds of snoring from party members)

13) Poker Face - "The slave you rescued courteously accepts your offer
to accompany you and thanks you for your trust in her . . ."

14) No Poker Face - "The slave you rescued, hee hee, courteously
accepts your offer, snort, to accompany you and thanks you for your trust
in her, hah hah . . . boy are you gonna get it now . . . giggle . . ."

15) Timid - "The orc hits you for 4 points of damage, if that's OK
with you, Steve. Really, you've got 17 hit points left and he has only 2,
so you'll be okay, OK?"

16) DePalma school of blood and gore - "Your magic drill cleaves the
demon's skull in twain and it literally explodes, spattering everyone
with blood and brains. An unsightly green ichor drips from your face as
you watch the smoldering corpse churn before you like a baby in a blender
and finally settle into a puddle of vomit and excrement . . ."

17) Gibson school of writing graduate - "The view in the crystal ball
was the colour of television, tuned to a dead channel."

18) Vengeful - "You won't go out with me Saturday? Okay, all of the
were-rats attack Christine."

19) AD&D'er - "The 100 peasants beat at your fighter ineffectually with
their sticks and pitchforks until you have slain them all. A heroic effort on
your part."

20) Anti-AD&D'er - "The 100 peasants overbear your fighter with their great
numbers and, unable to move under the weight of their hordes, you squirm
helplessly as they pry open your field plate and skewer you like a lobster.
You die an ignoble death."

21) Stickler For Detail - "Taking into account atmospheric conditions,
the acceleration due to gravity, the low drag coefficient of your greased
plate mail, your high dexterity, the gold in your backpack, your
associated credit rating, the eggs you had for breakfast . . . and the
average number of chickens who would remain inside the coop on a warm
day, you have to roll 13 or better to survive the fall . . ."

22) No Originality - "It's a quest, see, you're trying to take this
ring to Mordor, to drop it into a volcano to destroy it. No, no, honest,
I thought of this campaign myself . . ."

23) Leading and Overbearing - "You pump the bartender for information
and he tells you about a red dragon's lair to the west."
"Too risky. We go to hear rumours somewhere else."
"A man offers to hire you to clean out a red dragon's lair for him."
"We say `no, thank you' and leave for the next village."
"On the way to the village you stumble onto a red dragon's lair . . ."

24) Schmuck - "Oh. Can someone really do that? Okay, I'll let you have
a 50% chance. Oh. Okay, 75% then."

25) Ghoul - "That's the 17th character you rolled tonight?
Mouahahahahahahahahahah!"

26) Absolute Monarch - "The huge Red Dragon CAN fit through the little
hole, 'cause I SAID SO!"

27) Unimaginative - "You walk into the bar and see thirty mercenaries
all wearing scalemail and carrying longswords. They all sit at seperate
tables."

28) Design Zealot - "I just need another 15 minutes. I only have 3
more levels to populate."
Message no. 5
From: Kelson kelson13@***********.com
Subject: GM list?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:40:09 -0700
Hello all,

I am curious to know if there is still some sort of GM mailing list (ShadowGM or some
such) for GMs to discuss issues that they don't want their players (who might subscribe to
the ShadowRN list) to see.

If not, I have something I wanted to run by some of the helpful GMs on this list. Would
you reply to me in private if you have a little time and want to discuss a creative idea
or two?

Thanks!

Justin


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Message no. 6
From: David Buehrer dbuehrer@******.carl.org
Subject: GM list?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:52:35 -0600 (MDT)
Kelson wrote:
/
/ Hello all,
/
/ I am curious to know if there is still some sort of GM mailing list
/ (ShadowGM or some such) for GMs to discuss issues that they don't want
/ their players (who might subscribe to the ShadowRN list) to see.

There was a ShadowGM list, but it's been silent for at least a year (if
not more). And FWIW, it wasn't all that busy to begin with.

If you want some help with something, I suggest posting it to the list
with spoiler space added. That's usually what GMs do, and the response
is usually pretty good.

-David
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Message no. 7
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: GM list?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:16:28 -0700 (PDT)
> Kelson wrote:
> /
> / Hello all,
> /
> / I am curious to know if there is still some sort of GM mailing list
(ShadowGM or some such) for GMs to discuss issues that they don't want
their players (who might subscribe to the ShadowRN list) to see.
>
> There was a ShadowGM list, but it's been silent for at least a year
(if not more). And FWIW, it wasn't all that busy to begin with.
>
> If you want some help with something, I suggest posting it to the
list with spoiler space added. That's usually what GMs do, and the
response is usually pretty good.
> -David


*Doc' stomps around..."

Death to players! Death to players! Death to...errr...what?

What do you mean, we aren't all GMs on this list?

Errr...don't mind me...

*Doc' hides...*
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)

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Message no. 8
From: Starrngr@***.com Starrngr@***.com
Subject: GM list?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:42:58 EDT
In a message dated 4/21/99 5:13:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
docwagon101@*****.com writes:

> *Doc' stomps around..."
>
> Death to players! Death to players! Death to...errr...what?
>
> What do you mean, we aren't all GMs on this list?
>
> Errr...don't mind me...

Hmmm.... Maybe we should add a section to the SR Geek code about Humor
ranging from Hum++++ Icoulnt make a totaly serious post if my life depended
on it (IE Doc) to Hum-- If I'm supposed to have a sense of humor the GM
would have issued me one....
Message no. 9
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: GM list?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:10:33 -0700 (PDT)
> > *Doc' stomps around..."
> >
> > Death to players! Death to players! Death to...errr...what?
> >
> > What do you mean, we aren't all GMs on this list?
> >
> > Errr...don't mind me...
>
> Hmmm.... Maybe we should add a section to the SR Geek code about
Humor ranging from Hum++++ I coulnt make a totaly serious post if my
life depended on it (IE Doc) to Hum-- If I'm supposed to have a sense
of humor the GM would have issued me one....

====¾gin Geek Code====GC! (*Richard Nixon voice* "I am not a geek!")
======End Geek Code=====
Okay, I was determined not to get involved in this geek code thing -
it's beneath even MY dignity IMNSHO :) - but this one begs an answer.

I like the humour idea, Michael, but you haven't got it quite right.

Hum+++ I couldn't make a totally serious post if my life depended on
it.
Hum++++ My posts always contain jokes people are regularly executed for
in Communist countries (i.e. Doc').

*Doc' grins and moons the firing squad...*
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)

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Message no. 10
From: Kelson kelson13@***********.com
Subject: GM list?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:11:19 -0700
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:52:35 David Buehrer wrote:

> There was a ShadowGM list, but it's been silent for > at least a year (if
> not more). And FWIW, it wasn't all that busy to >begin with.

Yeah, I figured it's been awhile because I couldn't find any references to it in the
present tense anywhere online. ;) IIRC, I used to be subscribed to it - but that was a
couple of years ago.

> If you want some help with something, I suggest >posting it to the list
> with spoiler space added. That's usually what GMs >do, and the response
> is usually pretty good.

Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, this won't work for my current situation because I
haven't formed a complete group yet. I know that some of the potential players subscribe
to this list, but nothing has been finalized yet so even they wouldn't know to skip the
post. ;) That's okay though, because I am getting some good private responses to my
post. Once I have a small handful of interested people, maybe I will start an unofficial
GM mailing list or something for the few who are actually interested in such a thing.

-David

Thanks!

Justin


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Message no. 11
From: John Pederson pedersje@******.rose-hulman.edu
Subject: GM list?
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 19:30:50 -0500
David Buehrer wrote:
>
> Kelson wrote:
> /
> / Hello all,
> /
> / I am curious to know if there is still some sort of GM mailing list
> / (ShadowGM or some such) for GMs to discuss issues that they don't want
> / their players (who might subscribe to the ShadowRN list) to see.
>
> There was a ShadowGM list, but it's been silent for at least a year (if
> not more). And FWIW, it wasn't all that busy to begin with.
>
> If you want some help with something, I suggest posting it to the list
> with spoiler space added. That's usually what GMs do, and the response
> is usually pretty good.

Pardon my lateness in this reply, but I've not been paying this list
great deals of attention lately (don't feel hurt, folks -- I just don't
play at the moment and I don't have tons of free time to work with,
either), so I've only just read this thread... ShadowGM *is* alive (if
not well). I'll have to do some tracking to figure out where it's
currently residing, but I still get posts from it every now and then on
another e-mail account that I check roughly once every blue moon or two.

--
Canthros
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