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Message no. 1
From: Sight Unseen <toabo@****.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:08:48 -0500
A
>1) I think I can speak for most ShadowRun players on this one:
>
> DON'T EVER USE 'INSPECTOR GADGET' AS A SOURCE FOR VIABLE
> SHADOWRUN IDEAS!!!!
>
>2) I repeat again: AAAAAAGGGGGGG!!!!!

Going to have to go with Zim on this one. There's just something
entirely non-wizzer about saying "Go-go gadget" before extending your spurs.
It's just not the kind of thing that Mr. Johnsons tend to look for in
potential employees. <g>

Peace and Long Life,

Scott
Message no. 2
From: The Crucible <crucible@******.MUR.CSU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:22:18 +1100
> A
> >1) I think I can speak for most ShadowRun players on this one:
> >
> > DON'T EVER USE 'INSPECTOR GADGET' AS A SOURCE FOR VIABLE
> > SHADOWRUN IDEAS!!!!
> >
> >2) I repeat again: AAAAAAGGGGGGG!!!!!
>
> Going to have to go with Zim on this one. There's just something
> entirely non-wizzer about saying "Go-go gadget" before extending your
spurs.
> It's just not the kind of thing that Mr. Johnsons tend to look for in
> potential employees. <g>
>

Plus its kinda hard with potential witnesses...
Lone Star: "Can you remember anything about the Shadowrunner?"
Witness: "Before using his spurs he said something like 'Go-go gadget spurs'"
Lone Star: "Ah-huh I think I him....."


Crucible
Message no. 3
From: Sight Unseen <toabo@****.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:29:04 -0500
At 12:22 PM 11/8/96 +1100, you wrote:
>> A
>> >1) I think I can speak for most ShadowRun players on this one:
>> >
>> > DON'T EVER USE 'INSPECTOR GADGET' AS A SOURCE FOR VIABLE
>> > SHADOWRUN IDEAS!!!!
>> >
>> >2) I repeat again: AAAAAAGGGGGGG!!!!!
>>
>> Going to have to go with Zim on this one. There's just something
>> entirely non-wizzer about saying "Go-go gadget" before extending your
spurs.
>> It's just not the kind of thing that Mr. Johnsons tend to look for in
>> potential employees. <g>
>>
>
>Plus its kinda hard with potential witnesses...
>Lone Star: "Can you remember anything about the Shadowrunner?"
>Witness: "Before using his spurs he said something like 'Go-go gadget
spurs'"
>Lone Star: "Ah-huh I think I him....."
>
>
>Crucible
>
You suppose the same risk would apply if the Shadowrunnner talked
into his show and worked with a woman he referred to only as 99?

Peace and Long Life,

Scott
Message no. 4
From: The Crucible <crucible@******.MUR.CSU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:59:32 +1100
> >> Going to have to go with Zim on this one. There's just something
> >> entirely non-wizzer about saying "Go-go gadget" before extending
your spurs.
> >> It's just not the kind of thing that Mr. Johnsons tend to look for in
> >> potential employees. <g>
> >>
> >
> >Plus its kinda hard with potential witnesses...
> >Lone Star: "Can you remember anything about the Shadowrunner?"
> >Witness: "Before using his spurs he said something like 'Go-go gadget
spurs'"
> >Lone Star: "Ah-huh I think I know him....."
> >
> >
> You suppose the same risk would apply if the Shadowrunnner talked
> into his show and worked with a woman he referred to only as 99?
>

Well... I guess runners -should- change certain things once in a while so
that they cant be identified..... one way to stop this is make sure you
arent identified... 1) all possible witnesses asleep on entry/job
2) All possible witnesses dead on completion of job

Thats one way.... another way would be cosmetic surgury.... and still you
can be identified.... how many elves with a cyberarm, deck, purple hair
and one eye go around with the name Marvin?

Some things have to change... and one of the easiest is names.... one
thing to stop this is make codenames for your particular job.... maybe
this is taking the whole thing a bit too far... but hey I'm paranoid :P

Crucible
Message no. 5
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 01:18:31 -0500
> You suppose the same risk would apply if the Shadowrunnner talked
>into his shoe and worked with a woman he referred to only as 99?
>
Ya know guys, as sorry as I am, I have to go with Jamal on this one and
defend him a bit... (Plus I owe him one... his character played "The
Crying Game" tonite in my game).

Inspector Gadget would be goofy, but... I've seen and played some strange
characters in these gam,es before. He wouldn't work real well in a serious
game, but... As a throw away character to play on those odd nights when
everyone's feeling wacky, he'd be fun...

And playing Maxwell Smart would rock. I used to watch old episodes of "Get
Smart" and reruns of it all teh time when I was younger. i loved that show...:)

-Bull-the-rerun-watching-decker-turned-GM-turned-commercial-director
Message no. 6
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 01:38:00 -0800
Man if Inspector Gadget was the worst thing my players threw at me!!!

I've had to deal with:
1 - a Holy Avenger/Fanatic/Hebrew Rabbi/Mage
2 - a Renraku experiment/cyborg/cyberpsycho/loonie
3 - a Great Western Dragon
4 - A holographic display of a decker still functioning after his meat
body died
5 - A ghost
6 - A hooker
7 - a 72 year old streetdoc/flying squirrel shaman/organlegger
8 - a dwarven chop-shop owner that packed a chainsaw for harvesting dead
runners, and had a Severe allergy to pure water
9 - Bull the Orc Decker turned whatever! :-) Sorry.
10 - An Orc sammy that was convinced he WAS Neal the Orc Barbarian
11 - A merc who NEVER, NOT EVER in over 10 shadowruns hit anything!! No
matter what gun he used, or what dice he rolled!! The player was
cursed!!

If one of my players wanted to be modelled after Inspector Gadget I
think I'd thank him!

Steven A. Tinner
"Can you be WHAT?!?!"
Message no. 7
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 01:47:41 -0500
At 01:38 AM 11/8/96 -0800, Steven A. Tinner wrote:
>Man if Inspector Gadget was the worst thing my players threw at me!!!
>
>I've had to deal with:
>1 - a Holy Avenger/Fanatic/Hebrew Rabbi/Mage
>2 - a Renraku experiment/cyborg/cyberpsycho/loonie
>3 - a Great Western Dragon
>4 - A holographic display of a decker still functioning after his meat
>body died
>5 - A ghost
>6 - A hooker
>7 - a 72 year old streetdoc/flying squirrel shaman/organlegger
>8 - a dwarven chop-shop owner that packed a chainsaw for harvesting dead
>runners, and had a Severe allergy to pure water
>9 - Bull the Orc Decker turned whatever! :-) Sorry.
>10 - An Orc sammy that was convinced he WAS Neal the Orc Barbarian
>11 - A merc who NEVER, NOT EVER in over 10 shadowruns hit anything!! No
>matter what gun he used, or what dice he rolled!! The player was
>cursed!!

Did you GM these sessions drunk or were you smoking somthing.


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If you have to ask then it's probably classified.
Which means that I have to follow protocol.
But if you ask nicely I might forget that you asked.
Then again maybe not.

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Message no. 8
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 02:05:18 -0800
> Did you GM these sessions drunk or were you smoking somthing.

Yep!
I have to admit, I did GM these sessions.
My real problem is that I'm just too trusting.
My players always tell me that they'll be responsible with their power.
Then they immediately grab their dictionaries and change the definition
of responsible. :-)

Not all my SR campaigns go this way.
What I consider my "main" game is actually quite serious, and involves a
lot more psychological roleplaying than insanity.

The campaign that has really gotten weird is the one I run at a local
Community College twice a week.
The players there are mostly new, and come from a mixed background of
Palladium, AD$D, and White Wolf crap!

How does that old line go about old dogs and new tricks?

Rather than try to ram my opinion of the way SR should be played down
these newbie's throats, I have let them slowly discover how difficult
things can be when you act like an idiot!
That way, no one can complain that I'm targeting them, even as the real
losers weed themselves out!
We started about three months ago with a group close to 20, and we have
managed to trim the team down to a core of 8, split into two seperate
squads of four.

The players that have stuck it out are really learning a lot about
roleplaying, and are slowly converting from their munchkin-hood.

Then again, some like Jamal slip backwards on occaison. :-)

Steven A. Tinner
"Tempted to start the FAB debate again to get rid of these dumb-ass
posts like Woodchucks and mentos! :-)"
Message no. 9
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:18:20 -0500
>Yep!
>I have to admit, I did GM these sessions.
>My real problem is that I'm just too trusting.
>My players always tell me that they'll be responsible with their power.
>Then they immediately grab their dictionaries and change the definition
>of responsible. :-)
>

Good god man you trusted players! ;-)

snip
>The players there are mostly new, and come from a mixed background of
>Palladium, AD$D, and White Wolf crap!

World of Darkness. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Ok I'm better now. Buncha sociopaths.

>How does that old line go about old dogs and new tricks?

snip

>have let them slowly discover how difficult
>things can be when you act like an idiot!

Your right on target man. Weed out the fanboys. Coddle the rookies for a
while until they know what going on.

snip
>Then again, some like Jamal slip backwards on occaison. :-)

At least he got rid of that sig of his. To think somebody asked me to spruce
mine up then i see that monstrousity.


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Nightlife Inc.
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If you have to ask then it's probably classified.
Which means that I have to follow protocol.
But if you ask nicely I might forget that you asked.
Then again maybe not.

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Message no. 10
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 02:44:16 -0500
>>Then again, some like Jamal slip backwards on occaison. :-)
>
>At least he got rid of that sig of his. To think somebody asked me to spruce
>mine up then i see that monstrousity.
>
Ok, let me say a few words about good ol' Jamal. He's really coming along.
We play twice a week at a local college with their gaming club, on Thursday
and Sunday nghts. Well, I've got Jamal and a couple other guys in my
Shadowrun group. I wanted to (for once) run a mostly serious campaign
there, and I told Jamal that if he acted stupid (REALLY stupid, like he
usually does), that i'd kick him out and he'd be forced to play Magic: The
Gathering with the other dweebs there. So he's been on his best behavior
the last few weeks.

Well, Last Thursday, he calls his live-in girlfriend to find out what she
thinks of his seeing other women. Hmmm, not smart. so she says "Sure, go
ahead... I date other guys all teh time..." This kinda throws him for a
loop, but what the heck, right?

Well, the group is hunting down clues for this murder investigation that I'm
running, and one of the clues was some data written inside a matchbook for a
bar called Frenchy's that I made, at the last minute, a gay bar. Well, the
players wander in, not suspecting a thing, and there is a hot babe at the
door greeting people. jamal flirts with her, not knowing that this is a
MEN's gay bar, let alone taht type of bar at all. Of course, that means she
is really a he in drag (along with a klittle cosmetic surgery).

Well, I drag this out quite a bit and play it up. Once in teh bar, it is
not an obvious gay bar. tehre even seems to be a few women in tehre (two, I
believe). However, i make secret perception rolls for everyone, and Jamal
fails miserably, but the other two make it. they notice little things like
facial hair on one of the "women".

They opt not to tell Jamal, even after he's made a date with the "lady" at
the door.

He goes out with her/him the next night, has a wonderful date, then after a
little hanky-panky, he discovers that...

She doesn't have a gun in her pocket and really IS glad to see him...:)

Well, that really freaked him out, and rightly so... that was cruel and
malicious, but i enjoyed every minute of it, and Jamal got a couple karma
for good role-playing, both before, during the adventure, and after he found
out about her/him.

Also, this will be news to him, but his live in girlfriend arranged the
whole thing to teach him a lesson...:)

Now to screw with the other two player's heads... let's see, one has a
sister living in Seattle...:)

-Bull-the-malicious-GM
Message no. 11
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:40:33 -0500
>Well, Last Thursday, he calls his live-in girlfriend to find out what she
>thinks of his seeing other women. Hmmm, not smart. so she says "Sure, go
>ahead... I date other guys all teh time..." This kinda throws him for a
>loop, but what the heck, right?

This in in character right?

snip

>Well, that really freaked him out, and rightly so... that was cruel and
>malicious, but i enjoyed every minute of it, and Jamal got a couple karma
>for good role-playing, both before, during the adventure, and after he found
>out about her/him.
>
>Also, this will be news to him, but his live in girlfriend arranged the
>whole thing to teach him a lesson...:)

I guess the was RL translating into game. If you want cruel I should quote
some of my players sometime.


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If you have to ask then it's probably classified.
Which means that I have to follow protocol.
But if you ask nicely I might forget that you asked.
Then again maybe not.

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Message no. 12
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:28:21 +0000
|And playing Maxwell Smart would rock. I used to watch old episodes of "Get
|Smart" and reruns of it all teh time when I was younger. i loved that show...:)

Yep... I quite like it as well....
I recorded a lot of 'em...

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Message no. 13
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:28:57 -0700
Bull wrote:
|
|He goes out with her/him the next night, has a wonderful date, then after a
|little hanky-panky, he discovers that...
|
|She doesn't have a gun in her pocket and really IS glad to see him...:)

Bull, buy the soundtrac to the "Crying Game" and play it every time Jamal
comes to game :)

-David

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Message no. 14
From: Sight Unseen <toabo@****.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:37:34 -0500
At 01:28 PM 11/8/96 +0000, you wrote:
>|And playing Maxwell Smart would rock. I used to watch old episodes of "Get
>|Smart" and reruns of it all teh time when I was younger. i loved that
show...:)
>
>Yep... I quite like it as well....
>I recorded a lot of 'em...

The opening sequence was pretty cool, what with all the slamming
doors. (Hey, we're all young and impressionable once! <smirk>)

Peace and Long Life,

Scott
Message no. 15
From: The Crucible <crucible@******.MUR.CSU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 13:46:11 +1100
> usually does), that i'd kick him out and he'd be forced to play Magic: The
> Gathering with the other dweebs there. So he's been on his best behavior
> the last few weeks.

Excuse me bull... but -I- play mtg and I am not a dweeb..... *grumble*
And I have been playing it for about 4 years with the rest of my rpg
group since high school... we seem to find its a good break in between
rpgs (well we have two GMs and we play about 8 different RPGs...).

Crucible
Message no. 16
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:12:01 -0500
>> usually does), that i'd kick him out and he'd be forced to play Magic: The
>> Gathering with the other dweebs there. So he's been on his best behavior
>> the last few weeks.
>
>Excuse me bull... but -I- play mtg and I am not a dweeb..... *grumble*
>And I have been playing it for about 4 years with the rest of my rpg
>group since high school... we seem to find its a good break in between
>rpgs (well we have two GMs and we play about 8 different RPGs...).
>
>Crucible
>
Sorry, Cruc... you mistook my comment... *I* still play occasionally, and
have played since it came out...

BUT, the guys that play at the college who aren't involved in other games
are dweebs...

-Bull
Message no. 17
From: The Crucible <crucible@******.MUR.CSU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 14:29:16 +1100
> >Excuse me bull... but -I- play mtg and I am not a dweeb..... *grumble*
> >And I have been playing it for about 4 years with the rest of my rpg
> >group since high school... we seem to find its a good break in between
> >rpgs (well we have two GMs and we play about 8 different RPGs...).
> >
> >Crucible
> >
> Sorry, Cruc... you mistook my comment... *I* still play occasionally, and
> have played since it came out...
>
> BUT, the guys that play at the college who aren't involved in other games
> are dweebs...
>
> -Bull
>

Cool what deck? Mines Red/Green... and I keep forgetting this is
shadowrun :P heheh oops

btw what happened to the rest of your signoff? :P

Crucible
Message no. 18
From: Pete <Pete@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Go-go gadgetry
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 03:50:36 +0000
In article <199611090312.WAA02062@***.ncweb.com>, Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
writes
>>Excuse me bull... but -I- play mtg and I am not a dweeb..... *grumble*
>>And I have been playing it for about 4 years with the rest of my rpg
>>group since high school... we seem to find its a good break in between
>>rpgs (well we have two GMs and we play about 8 different RPGs...).
>>
>>Crucible
>>
>Sorry, Cruc... you mistook my comment... *I* still play occasionally, and
>have played since it came out...

Yeah, but Bull.... you *are* a dweeb.... :)

and an Ewok lover. <bleuch> nasty 'orrible little furry bug eyed buck
toothed things.

--
Pete Sims
Civilisation advances by extending the number of important operations which we
can perform without thinking about them.

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