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Message no. 1
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:39:01 +0000
For a good laugh, check out this URL. Did you know that Washing
machines with transparent lids are Satanic? He doesn't list
Shadowrun, though he does have a bunch of others listed. Should we
enlighten him?

http://www.jyu.fi/~np/satangame.html


Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 2
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 07:56:31 -0700
>......He doesn't list
> Shadowrun, though he does have a bunch of others listed. Should we
> enlighten him?

If whoever it is believes this drek let them be a fool all by
themselves..Adding our name [so to speak] to the list will not do our
game or our hobby in general any good...But it will lend credance to
that person's misguided beliefs if we go and antagonize them..

--------------------------------GRANITE
"Rock Steady"
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Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
Message no. 3
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 08:39:26 -0700
> Have you looked at the site?

No.. I can't do that with any alacrity from home..I will have to do
it from work..

> NO-ONE in the RPG industry can take him seriously. Especially when he says
> that ADnD has "detailed, realistic ultra-violent combat"

It is not the RPG industry I worry about..It is Joe Shmoe..the guy
that doesn't know the first thing about RPGing..he is the one who is
likely to be duped..Not the guys down at FASA...

> And when he says "1.Loses interest in other, good hobbies "
> The "good hobbies" is a link to alt.guns....
> Nahhh, this one's a crank of the highest order....

Or perhaps a moron on a quest..

My point is..We don't need bad press no matter how stupid the
source..Especially when Drek for brains gets to put up on his little
page something like this:

And then the hords that are controlled by Satan attacked me with a
flame war that went on for weeks..But I prevailed..I am still here
and here is an excerpt from one of their letters complete with the
poor lost souls address.

"YOU WOULDN'T KNOW EVIL IF IT LANDED ON YOUR FACE AND WIGGLED!
I'LL SHOW YOU EVIL SLOT . I'LL SEND A DEMON STRAIGHT FROM THE
FARTHEST CORNERS OF HELL TO NEST IN YOUR ARM PIT!!"

Would you want it to be your message that now gets to be used as a
flag to show what the bad people that play those games said to this
pea brained moron?

And I know for a fact there are more than a couple of people on this
list that would take this very slant except make it a lot worse than
in my little example..

If you want to try and convert the guy..Go ahead..Just take your time
and keep your cool..Otherwise he could turn out the winner no matter
how it ends up.. And the bigger the idiot the bigger the tabloid or
real news source that will print the idiot..because it is a
contraversy and contraversy sells..
--------------------------------GRANITE
"Rock Steady"
===============================================
Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
Message no. 4
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:40:55 +0000
> > And when he says "1.Loses interest in other, good hobbies "
> > The "good hobbies" is a link to alt.guns....
> > Nahhh, this one's a crank of the highest order....
> Or perhaps a moron on a quest..

Despite the "This is not a joke" bit at the end of the page, I'm
voting for crank. In particular, look at the link to Microsoft
(funny, that's the one that I _DID_ think was Satanic). The link
goes to
http://who.the.hell.wants.to.purchase.something.from.micros0ft.com
which doesn't exist (duh!). I doubt such language would be used by
someone doing that site for real.

> My point is..We don't need bad press no matter how stupid the
> source..Especially when Drek for brains gets to put up on his little

Agreed. Bad Press is bad press.


Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 5
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:25:53 +0000
On 10 Sep 97 at 9:39, Brett Borger wrote:

> For a good laugh, check out this URL. Did you know that Washing
> machines with transparent lids are Satanic? He doesn't list
> Shadowrun, though he does have a bunch of others listed. Should we
> enlighten him?
>
> http://www.jyu.fi/~np/satangame.html

Hehe. Thanks Brett. Made my day. What a loser. He must have trouble
just leaving his house. He says you can't eat blood, and vegetarians
are satanic? What the hell does he eat? Bread and water?
Oh man...

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Message no. 6
From: Jaymz <justin@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:27:08 -0500
At 12:25 PM 9/10/97 +0000, Drekhead wrote:
#On 10 Sep 97 at 9:39, Brett Borger wrote:
#
#> For a good laugh, check out this URL. Did you know that Washing
#> machines with transparent lids are Satanic? He doesn't list
#> Shadowrun, though he does have a bunch of others listed. Should we
#> enlighten him?
#>
#> http://www.jyu.fi/~np/satangame.html
#
#Hehe. Thanks Brett. Made my day. What a loser. He must have trouble
#just leaving his house. He says you can't eat blood, and vegetarians
#are satanic? What the hell does he eat? Bread and water?
#Oh man...

actually, bread is a vegetable....
wheat

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Message no. 7
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:41:42 +0100
|actually, bread is a vegetable....
|wheat

Ahhh, but is can contain animal fats...

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Message no. 8
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:21:41 +0000
On 10 Sep 97 at 11:27, Jaymz wrote:

> #Hehe. Thanks Brett. Made my day. What a loser. He must have trouble
> #just leaving his house. He says you can't eat blood, and vegetarians
> #are satanic? What the hell does he eat? Bread and water?
> #Oh man...
>
> actually, bread is a vegetable....
> wheat
>

Well, yea, I guess it is.
So I guess the guy's down to water. Must be a thin fellow...

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Message no. 9
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:21:09 -0700
> From: "Spike" <u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk>
> <quote>
> coprophilia,
> </quote>

What's this guy doing to coconuts??
There were a few things in that list that were things I like to do on
a regular basis..And he tended to repeat himself..

> Personally, I'm using is as nothing more than light relief.
> The "author" of that page is after all, a paranoid, rascist, homophobic
> bible basher with an anti-catholic fixation...

That is the very best way to use that page..I will have ot check it
out tonight..

> I agree with him about Bill Gates though...
> :)

Well you do know his middle name is Satan..

> Did you know that Babylon 5 is evil incarnate?

Then I guess I'll have to burn..

> Or the Carebears?

With that I have to agree...

> Or Left Handed people... Oh dear... I'm Left Handed.....

Well..we all know about you Spike..


--------------------------------GRANITE
"Rock Steady"
===============================================
Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
Message no. 10
From: George H Metz <wolfstar@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:43:01 EDT
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:40:55 +0000 Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU> writes:
>> > And when he says "1.Loses interest in other, good hobbies "
>> > The "good hobbies" is a link to alt.guns....
>> > Nahhh, this one's a crank of the highest order....
>> Or perhaps a moron on a quest..
>
>Despite the "This is not a joke" bit at the end of the page, I'm
>voting for crank. In particular, look at the link to Microsoft
>(funny, that's the one that I _DID_ think was Satanic). The link
>goes to
>http://who.the.hell.wants.to.purchase.something.from.micros0ft.com
>which doesn't exist (duh!). I doubt such language would be used by
>someone doing that site for real.

You never know....
Although, if you convert William Gates 3 to ASCII numbers and add them
together, the result is 666. Same for Microsoft Windows 95. There's a
third one somewhere too. =)
Bill Gates - The Digital Antichrist.

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Message no. 11
From: Hernandez <hernandez@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:43:36 -0700
This page is just a spoof the guy made up. If you go to other places on his
page, you'll see that he is a
gamer from the Netherlands (I think).

Still though, it is rather hilarious.


MoonShadow
hernandez@********.com
ICQ 3220365

May the god, goddess, or deity of your choice bless,
curse, or completely ignore you, as per your wishes
Message no. 12
From: Tim Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:44:39 EDT
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:25:53 +0000 Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET> writes:
>On 10 Sep 97 at 9:39, Brett Borger wrote:
>
>> For a good laugh, check out this URL. Did you know that Washing
>> machines with transparent lids are Satanic? He doesn't list
>> Shadowrun, though he does have a bunch of others listed. Should we
>> enlighten him?
>>
>> http://www.jyu.fi/~np/satangame.html
>
>Hehe. Thanks Brett. Made my day. What a loser. He must have trouble
>just leaving his house. He says you can't eat blood, and vegetarians
>are satanic? What the hell does he eat? Bread and water?
>Oh man...

<shakes head in disbelief>
Boy... some people just aren't able to percieve the difference between
fiction and reality.

On the other hand, he DID manage to actually spell 'Cthulhu' correctly -
which is more than can be said for a large number of *gamers*. :)

~Tim
Message no. 13
From: Zarcon <zarcon@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 22:02:05 -0500
----------
> >> For a good laugh, check out this URL. Did you know that Washing
> >> machines with transparent lids are Satanic? He doesn't list
> >> Shadowrun, though he does have a bunch of others listed. Should we
> >> enlighten him?
> >>
> >> http://www.jyu.fi/~np/satangame.html
>
> Boy... some people just aren't able to percieve the difference between
> fiction and reality.
>
> On the other hand, he DID manage to actually spell 'Cthulhu' correctly -
> which is more than can be said for a large number of *gamers*. :)

haha i just saw this page and i couldnt help it, i had to wright a letter
to
the idiot :)
i think it was the long hair and tatoos thing that got to me (i have both
:)
its people like that that make me wana pull out an uzi or 2 and blow
everything away

(and by the way i am a lurker here but i have been on the list for over a
year now)
Levi Prinzing
or otherwise known as
Zarcon, Calban, or Khufu
Message no. 14
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:33:04 -0500
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:44:39 EDT Tim Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM> writes:

><shakes head in disbelief>
>Boy... some people just aren't able to percieve the difference between
>fiction and reality.
>On the other hand, he DID manage to actually spell 'Cthulhu' correctly
>-
>which is more than can be said for a large number of *gamers*. :)

Really, I don't see why any true *gamer* would visit a site that bashes
one of their hobbies. Going out, visiting a site like that only does
exactly what the author of the site wants, to get a rise out of what he
thinks are idiots, satanists, and the like. I'm going to do what I
recommend most *gamers* on this list do, blackball the site.

Gweedo the Killer Pimp!
Message no. 15
From: George H Metz <wolfstar@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 05:24:32 EDT
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:21:09 -0700 GRANITE <granite@**.NET> writes:
>> From: "Spike" <u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk>
>> <quote>
>> coprophilia,
>> </quote>
>
>What's this guy doing to coconuts??
>There were a few things in that list that were things I like to do on
>a regular basis..And he tended to repeat himself..
>
>> Personally, I'm using is as nothing more than light relief.
>> The "author" of that page is after all, a paranoid, rascist,
homophobic
>> bible basher with an anti-catholic fixation...
>
>That is the very best way to use that page..I will have ot check it
>out tonight..

It's definitely a joke site. A joke in EXTREMELY bad taste, but a joke
nonetheless. From the pic on another part of his page, he's got a pretty
nice collection of RPG books. Also, pay attention to the background of
the page, it's tiled pentagrams(the upside-down variant.) There's also a
link from Jesus Christ to alt.fuck.the.skull.of.Jesus, one of the most
distasteful bits on there, and I'm a pagan! Personally, I'd just as soon
boot him into the Australian Outback butt naked than look at him.

--
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http://members.aol.com/w0lfstar Home of Ellington General Ordinance!
"Screw you brother, odds is you don't know what's happening." - John
Lennon
Message no. 16
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 19:54:13 +1000
> nonetheless. From the pic on another part of his page, he's got a pretty
> nice collection of RPG books. Also, pay attention to the background of
> the page, it's tiled pentagrams(the upside-down variant.) There's also a
> link from Jesus Christ to alt.fuck.the.skull.of.Jesus, one of the most
> distasteful bits on there, and I'm a pagan! Personally, I'd just as soon
> boot him into the Australian Outback butt naked than look at him.

And what makes you think any of us down here want him? :)

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 17
From: Geoffrey Giesemann <geoffwa@***********.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:09:46 +1000
:>>> <quote>
>>> coprophilia,
>>> </quote>
>>
>>What's this guy doing to coconuts??
>>There were a few things in that list that were things I like to do on
>>a regular basis..And he tended to repeat himself..
>>
>>> Personally, I'm using is as nothing more than light relief.
>>> The "author" of that page is after all, a paranoid, rascist,
>homophobic
>>> bible basher with an anti-catholic fixation...
>>
>>That is the very best way to use that page..I will have ot check it
>>out tonight..
>
> It's definitely a joke site. A joke in EXTREMELY bad taste, but a joke
>nonetheless. From the pic on another part of his page, he's got a pretty
>nice collection of RPG books. Also, pay attention to the background of
>the page, it's tiled pentagrams(the upside-down variant.) There's also a
>link from Jesus Christ to alt.fuck.the.skull.of.Jesus, one of the most
>distasteful bits on there, and I'm a pagan! Personally, I'd just as soon
>boot him into the Australian Outback butt naked than look at him.
>
Thanks but we'd boot him right back. You should put him down as payload for
the new Cassini space probe :)

Geoff

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Message no. 18
From: George H Metz <wolfstar@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 06:36:17 EDT
On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 19:54:13 +1000 Lady Jestyr
<jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU> writes:
>> nonetheless. From the pic on another part of his page, he's got a
pretty
>> nice collection of RPG books. Also, pay attention to the background of
>> the page, it's tiled pentagrams(the upside-down variant.) There's also
a
>> link from Jesus Christ to alt.fuck.the.skull.of.Jesus, one of the most
>> distasteful bits on there, and I'm a pagan! Personally, I'd just as
soon
>> boot him into the Australian Outback butt naked than look at him.
>
>And what makes you think any of us down here want him? :)

Nothing does. And hopefully, if I pick the right place, by the time
anyone from civilization finds him, they'll ID him through the teeth in
his bleached skull. =)(No, I'm not annoyed in the least. </sarcasm>)

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http://members.aol.com/w0lfstar Home of Ellington General Ordinance!
"Screw you brother, odds is you don't know what's happening." - John
Lennon
Message no. 19
From: Ian White <dernhelm@*****.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:02:05 -0400
At 19:31 11/09/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>> <quote>
>>> coprophilia,
>>> </quote>
>>
>>What's this guy doing to coconuts??
>>There were a few things in that list that were things I like to do on
>>a regular basis..And he tended to repeat himself..
>>
>>> Personally, I'm using is as nothing more than light relief.
>>> The "author" of that page is after all, a paranoid, rascist,
>homophobic
>>> bible basher with an anti-catholic fixation...
>>
>>That is the very best way to use that page..I will have ot check it
>>out tonight..
>
> It's definitely a joke site. A joke in EXTREMELY bad taste, but a joke
>nonetheless. From the pic on another part of his page, he's got a pretty
>nice collection of RPG books. Also, pay attention to the background of
>the page, it's tiled pentagrams(the upside-down variant.) There's also a
>link from Jesus Christ to alt.fuck.the.skull.of.Jesus, one of the most
>distasteful bits on there, and I'm a pagan! Personally, I'd just as soon
>boot him into the Australian Outback butt naked than look at him.
>
>
No thank you we don't want him, drop him in the ocean with some concrete shoes.

Dernhelm

If this is reality, then I prefer insantiy
Message no. 20
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:18:58 +0100
|> <quote>
|> coprophilia,
|> </quote>
|
|What's this guy doing to coconuts??
|There were a few things in that list that were things I like to do on
|a regular basis..And he tended to repeat himself..

A lot....

|> Or the Carebears?
|
|With that I have to agree...

Guess what the link was to....

alt.sex.bears
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|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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Message no. 21
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 08:29:17 +0000
> >which is more than can be said for a large number of *gamers*. :)
>
> Really, I don't see why any true *gamer* would visit a site that bashes
> one of their hobbies. Going out, visiting a site like that only does
> exactly what the author of the site wants, to get a rise out of what he
> thinks are idiots, satanists, and the like. I'm going to do what I
> recommend most *gamers* on this list do, blackball the site.

Hey! Is you sayin I taint a real gamer?

I was actually trying to visit sites of that type so that I could
collect info for a site that would be Anti-Anti-RPG (basically
Pro-RPG) like the wonderful (but old) Stackpole info against BADD.
however, I stumbled onto several sites like this that question the
validity of any of the info out there. Interestingly, I found more
"fake" anti-RPG sites than real ones.

Besides, do you know the expression, "Know thine enemy?"
Understanding what John Q. Public is being told about our favorite
hobbies is important. (Did I say hobbies? I meant ritualistic
Satanic enlightenment activities. :) )


Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 22
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:26:17 +0100
| You never know....
| Although, if you convert William Gates 3 to ASCII numbers and add them
|together, the result is 666. Same for Microsoft Windows 95. There's a
|third one somewhere too. =)

I think the third one is the one he uses on the anti-rpg page.

William Henry Gates supposedly adds up to 666.

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|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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Message no. 23
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:44:37 +0100
|And what makes you think any of us down here want him? :)

Judging the sense of humour that eminates from down under, I think you's
LOVE him...

After all, it was you lot who made the direst of all "comedies" ever.

"Let the blood run free"

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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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Message no. 24
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:00:02 +0000
> | Although, if you convert William Gates 3 to ASCII numbers and add them
> |together, the result is 666. Same for Microsoft Windows 95. There's a
> |third one somewhere too. =)
> William Henry Gates supposedly adds up to 666.

anyone know the logic behind this? I haven't spent the time to
actually convert it (I do have a life) but I know that H+e+n+r+y != 3
in ASCII.


Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 25
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:16:39 -0700
> This page is just a spoof the guy made up. If you go to other places on his

I checked his site out last night too..It is an obvious if deranged
spoof..A lot of work has gone into his site..that much is
obvious..but the guy is plain old weird..Although he did have a kinda
cool pic of himself with his hands glowing..but other than that it
was in very poor taste..Oh well..

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"Rock Steady"
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Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
Message no. 26
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:52:12 -0500
On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 08:29:17 +0000 Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU> writes:

>Hey! Is you sayin I taint a real gamer?

No, No, No, I'm just saying that a real gamer wouldn't have to jump up
and defend his hobby to everybody that sez "you drink goats blood, blah,
blah, blah."

>I was actually trying to visit sites of that type so that I could
>collect info for a site that would be Anti-Anti-RPG (basically
>Pro-RPG) like the wonderful (but old) Stackpole info against BADD.
>however, I stumbled onto several sites like this that question the
>validity of any of the info out there. Interestingly, I found more
>"fake" anti-RPG sites than real ones.

I can understand how there are more "fake" sites than real anti-RpG
sites. Think about, what kind of buttmunch has nothing better to do with
his time than devote his hard earned web page to anti-rpging.

>Besides, do you know the expression, "Know thine enemy?"
>Understanding what John Q. Public is being told about our favorite
>hobbies is important. (Did I say hobbies? I meant ritualistic
>Satanic enlightenment activities. :) )

Me as a roleplayer, I have no enemies, I only have minor annoyances.
Besides, why would I want to look at some retards web site, when I've got
the highlights from the list :) Besides, sometimes if some beleives you
sacrifice baby kittens to Dunkelzahn, then they're less likely to mess
with you in real life (Whatever that is to these people!) Although I do
have to think about a story I heard about concentration camps in the
40's:

"When they came to take the total strangers, I didn't stand up for them.
When they came to take my friends, I didn't stand up for them.
When they came to take my family, I didn't stand up for them.
When they came to take me, there was nobody left to stand up for me."

That's why I don't like people bashing games like M:TG. Sooner or later
either the Liberals will take over the house and we'll have less to worry
about, on the other hand, the right wing might take back over. Only then
would I fear for Fantasy gaming. Oh well, I've been ranting long enough.

Gweedo the Killer Pimp
Message no. 27
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 08:17:18 +0000
> with you in real life (Whatever that is to these people!) Although I do
> have to think about a story I heard about concentration camps in the
> 40's:
>
> "When they came to take the total strangers, I didn't stand up for them.
> When they came to take my friends, I didn't stand up for them.
> When they came to take my family, I didn't stand up for them.
> When they came to take me, there was nobody left to stand up for me."

I think the original quote was made by a doctor in Germany or Poland
(I can never remember which) and it went through different
professions and religions, but the end result is the same idea...your
quote boils it down quite well. I thought the original went
something like "When they came for the Jews, I didn't do anything
because I wasn't Jewish. When they came for the Catholics, I didn't
do anything because I wasn't Catholic." etc. Nit-picking, but it
sounds more believable than someone ignoring his friends and family.
Anyone out there have the full original quote?

> That's why I don't like people bashing games like M:TG. Sooner or later
> either the Liberals will take over the house and we'll have less to worry
> about, on the other hand, the right wing might take back over. Only then
> would I fear for Fantasy gaming. Oh well, I've been ranting long enough.

With a Juno account, I'm going to assume you are U.S.

I wouldn't rely to much on the liberals....I consider myself a fairly
liberal fellow, but in the last three years the liberals haven't been
so liberal. (Can we say CDA? Budget Agreement? I list off more,
but that's a bit OT.

Hey, Gurth and Bull! I had a dream the two of you were in last night
(no comments please). We were cruising town in a Jeep and trashing
store windows...very weird. Weirder yet, Gurth looked like Bull, and
Bull looked like Spike! (I blame Tinner's Who's Who page.)


Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 28
From: Tim Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:45:27 EDT
On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:18:58 +0100 Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
writes:
>|> <quote>
>|> coprophilia,
>|> </quote>
>|
>|What's this guy doing to coconuts??
>|There were a few things in that list that were things I like to do on
>|a regular basis..And he tended to repeat himself..
>
>A lot....
>
>|> Or the Carebears?
>|
>|With that I have to agree...

I don't know.. I thought he was pretty much right-on-the-money with
Barney though...

~Tim :)
Message no. 29
From: Glenn Robb <GLENNROBB@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:55:54 -0600
This guy doesn't realize what he has gotten himself into.

— Elton Robb
Message no. 30
From: George H Metz <wolfstar@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 02:49:00 EDT
On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:00:02 +0000 Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU> writes:
>> | Although, if you convert William Gates 3 to ASCII numbers and add
them
>> |together, the result is 666. Same for Microsoft Windows 95. There's a
>> |third one somewhere too. =)
>> William Henry Gates supposedly adds up to 666.
>
>anyone know the logic behind this? I haven't spent the time to
>actually convert it (I do have a life) but I know that H+e+n+r+y != 3
>in ASCII.

Well, when I checked the ASCII chart *I* have, William Henry Gates
translates into 1737, and Henry translates to 446, so unless I'm doing it
COMPLETELY wrong, it doesn't translate over. (William Gates 3 doesn't
either.)

--
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http://members.aol.com/w0lfstar - Home to Ellington General Ordinance!
All I want is a warm bed, a kind word, and unlimited power.
Message no. 31
From: George H Metz <wolfstar@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 04:29:12 EDT
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:55:54 -0600 Glenn Robb <GLENNROBB@*******.NET>
writes:
>
>This guy doesn't realize what he has gotten himself into.

Actually, he does realize exactly what he's doing, and is probably the
main reason he's doing it. Sure, he's "making a statement" about the
ridiculousness of the Anti-RPG movement(he is a gamer) but he's slamming
just about everything that annoys him in the process just because he can.
It's in extremely bad taste, and he more than likely uses every drug he
can get his hands on himself. One thing I take exception to is the use of
the inverted pentacle wallpaper, which points out some interesting
possibilities, as that is a symbol for those who place the spiritual in
subservience to the physical, which is very much backwards. And I just
turned 10 words into a psychoanalysis. I've GOTTA stop doing that. =)

--
Wolfstar, Fearless Leader of Myself(Too bad my follower isn't fearless!)
http://members.aol.com/w0lfstar - Home to Ellington General Ordinance!
Nothing says "I'm Elite" more than the sharp dressed hacker sporting his
very own ICBM!
(PS: Please allow 2-3 weeks for Federal Agents to collect enough data on
you
before busting in your door at 4am to arrest your sorry ass)
Message no. 32
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Great Anti-RPG Web Site
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:08:16 -0500
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 08:17:18 +0000 Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU> writes:

>I think the original quote was made by a doctor in Germany or Poland
>(I can never remember which) and it went through different
>professions and religions, but the end result is the same idea...your
>quote boils it down quite well.

Well, since schools, congressman, and irate mothers everywhere are
bashing fantasy card games(Mtg being banned from many schools, including
mine.), and fantasy card gaming is as close to a brother as rpg's will
probably ever see, I figured the quote would have more validity the way I
heard it (although for the life of me I cannot remember where the hell I
heard, and that bothers me quite a bit:)).

>I thought the original went
>something like "When they came for the Jews, I didn't do anything
>because I wasn't Jewish. When they came for the Catholics, I didn't
>do anything because I wasn't Catholic." etc. Nit-picking, but it
>sounds more believable than someone ignoring his friends and family.
>Anyone out there have the full original quote?

Go up to a local religious person (reverned, priest, father, demigod,
whatever you feel.) I'm sure they would have the quote.

>With a Juno account, I'm going to assume you are U.S.

Astute detective work Holmes;)

>I wouldn't rely to much on the liberals....I consider myself a fairly
>liberal fellow, but in the last three years the liberals haven't been
>so liberal. (Can we say CDA? Budget Agreement? I list off more,
>but that's a bit OT.

I would guess that your U.S. as well seeing as what you mentioned in
parenthesis (I don't know, maybe some of the Euro members on the list can
tell us if there governments have this much trouble with the Budget.), I
would really just consider myself a person that would vote for non-idiots
(which is really becoming harder, and harder to find, maybe they should
make they're own party, but then everybody would join it because people
might think that they're really non-idiots, then we'd have big problems,
and then I'd just move to a nudist colony to get away from it all, and
then I'd die from pneumonia in the winter time, so I hope that never
happens:)), but really, how many senators have you seen, on T.V or other
wise, bash fantasy gaming. I haven't, and I watch T.V. all of the time,
and I go to political rallies all of the time. I think that it's being
blown up by the media.

>Hey, Gurth and Bull! I had a dream the two of you were in last night
>(no comments please). We were cruising town in a Jeep and trashing
>store windows...very weird. Weirder yet, Gurth looked like Bull, and
>Bull looked like Spike! (I blame Tinner's Who's Who page.)

hmmmmm, oh yeah, no comments, never mind:)

Gweedo the Political Pimp!

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