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Message no. 1
From: Piers Meynell <SAC5PM@*******.ac.uk>
Subject: Greeting and request
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:56:51 GMT
Hello again

Though Im hardly an active contributor to this list can I appologise
for my sudden withdrawal, Ive been experiencing and still have
problems with my mailer.

Anyway to the main thrust of this email within shadow run, there is a
strong bias towards the native peoples of america and this extends to
the magic system, specifically totems , which seem to reflect mainly
the Amaradein point of view, thus I am about to offer the following
which may in a very small extent at least help to widen your
knowledge of one of the totems, namely Snake. Hopefully in about
three hours time I will have finnished typing up a trasnscript of an
intresting radio program that appeared sometime in the early ninties,
broadcast by the BBC, which covers and explores snake mythology,
So far the transcript has reached 4000 words, and will probably extened
another two thousand. So my question. How do you wish me to handle
the distibution, one big message, many smaller ones, upload it to some
archive, forget the idea all together <grrr!> :)

Id appreciate some advice from someone, and OK to go ahead with the
posting, Gurth? :)

Piers

"Curse the blasted jelly-boned swines, the slimy
belly-wriggling invertebrates, the miserable sodding
rotters, the flaming sods, the sniverlling, dribbling,
dithering, palsied pulseless lot that make up Engand
today. They've got the white of egg in their veins,
and their spunk is that watery it's a marvel they can
breed. Why, why, why, was I born an Englishman!"
D.H. Lawrence (1912)
Message no. 2
From: mbroadwa@*******.glenayre.com (Mike Broadwater)
Subject: Re: Greeting and request
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:34:23 -0600
>within shadow run, there is a
>strong bias towards the native peoples of america and this extends to
>the magic system, specifically totems , which seem to reflect mainly
>the Amaradein point of view
Those two lines are oxymoronic. The native people of America are the
American Indians. The totem system is based off of that mythos.

And about the posting. I don't care as long as it's no more than about
10-15k. After that, things tend to get annoying.
Message no. 3
From: Piers Meynell <SAC5PM@*******.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Greeting and request
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:53:06 GMT
> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:34:23 -0600
> To: shadowrn@********.itribe.net
> From: mbroadwa@*******.glenayre.com (Mike Broadwater)
> Subject: Re: Greeting and request
> Reply-to: shadowrn@********.itribe.net

Hello!
> Those two lines are oxymoronic. The native people of America are the
> American Indians.

Eeep is my grammer that bad!?, thats what i thought I was saying :(

>The totem system is based off of that mythos.
True but Snake appears in a great many culutures and in some as an
image of great significance. I just thought at least a few might be
intrested <sniff> : /

> And about the posting. I don't care as long as it's no more than about
> 10-15k. After that, things tend to get annoying.

As a single message or the entire thing? How about if I zip the
document?

Piers

"Curse the blasted jelly-boned swines, the slimy
belly-wriggling invertebrates, the miserable sodding
rotters, the flaming sods, the sniverlling, dribbling,
dithering, palsied pulseless lot that make up Engand
today. They've got the white of egg in their veins,
and their spunk is that watery it's a marvel they can
breed. Why, why, why, was I born an Englishman!"
D.H. Lawrence (1912)
Message no. 4
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@************.org>
Subject: Re: Greeting and request
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:03:49 -0500 (EST)
On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Piers Meynell wrote:

> As a single message or the entire thing? How about if I zip the
> document?

No binaries on the list. That includes attachments. However, if
you place it in an FTP site and post the location, everybody who wants it
can go and get it no matter what size it is.

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Message no. 5
From: Piers Meynell <SAC5PM@*******.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Greeting and request
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:10:09 GMT
> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:03:49 -0500 (EST)
> From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@************.org>
> To: shadowrn@********.itribe.net
> Subject: Re: Greeting and request
> Organization: cyberNOTHING.org: Because nothing is cooler when it's cyber.
> Reply-to: shadowrn@********.itribe.net

> > As a single message or the entire thing? How about if I zip the
> > document?
>
> No binaries on the list. That includes attachments. However, if
> you place it in an FTP site and post the location, everybody who wants it
> can go and get it no matter what size it is.


Okay, could you recomend one I could post to please?

Piers

"Curse the blasted jelly-boned swines, the slimy
belly-wriggling invertebrates, the miserable sodding
rotters, the flaming sods, the sniverlling, dribbling,
dithering, palsied pulseless lot that make up Engand
today. They've got the white of egg in their veins,
and their spunk is that watery it's a marvel they can
breed. Why, why, why, was I born an Englishman!"
D.H. Lawrence (1912)
Message no. 6
From: Piers Meynell <SAC5PM@*******.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Greeting and request
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:31:19 GMT
> From: Piers Meynell <SAC5PM@*******.ac.uk>
> To: shadowrn@********.itribe.net
> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:10:09 GMT
> Subject: Re: Greeting and request
> Priority: normal
> Reply-to: shadowrn@********.itribe.net

> >
> > No binaries on the list. That includes attachments. However, if
> > you place it in an FTP site and post the location, everybody who wants it
> > can go and get it no matter what size it is.
>
>
> Okay, could you recomend one I could post to please?

<Ack> Scratch that! A job at the beeb wildlife department might be
vaguely interesting, and halving to explain in an interview, how you
infringed BBC copyright might be somewhat uncomfortable :)
If any one is vaguely interested could you email outside the lists
system, specifically to sac5pm@**.ac.uk and Ill post you a email you
a copy of the transcript. Im just happy that posting it to the list
was an afterthought :)

Bye!

Piers "Unwanted, unloved, disliked <-well I needed a little variety
in completing the trio :)" Meynell

"Curse the blasted jelly-boned swines, the slimy
belly-wriggling invertebrates, the miserable sodding
rotters, the flaming sods, the sniverlling, dribbling,
dithering, palsied pulseless lot that make up Engand
today. They've got the white of egg in their veins,
and their spunk is that watery it's a marvel they can
breed. Why, why, why, was I born an Englishman!"
D.H. Lawrence (1912)
Message no. 7
From: mbroadwa@*******.glenayre.com (Mike Broadwater)
Subject: Re: Greeting and request
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:38:59 -0600
>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:34:23 -0600
>> To: shadowrn@********.itribe.net
>> From: mbroadwa@*******.glenayre.com (Mike Broadwater)
>> Subject: Re: Greeting and request
>> Reply-to: shadowrn@********.itribe.net
>
>Hello!
>> Those two lines are oxymoronic. The native people of America are the
>> American Indians.
>
>Eeep is my grammer that bad!?, thats what i thought I was saying :(
Nope, you were right. I reread the originals (yours and mine) and I slipped
right passed the "torwards" in "bias torwards". That totally changes
your
meaning. Oh, and if you mail me the document, I can post it on my web page.
Unless someone else wants it, of course.
Message no. 8
From: Piers Meynell <SAC5PM@*******.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Greeting and request
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 19:06:08 GMT
> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:38:59 -0600
> To: shadowrn@********.itribe.net
> From: mbroadwa@*******.glenayre.com (Mike Broadwater)
> Subject: Re: Greeting and request
> Reply-to: shadowrn@********.itribe.net


> >Eeep is my grammer that bad!?, thats what i thought I was saying :(
> Nope, you were right. I reread the originals (yours and mine) and I slipped
> right passed the "torwards" in "bias torwards". That totally
changes your
> meaning. Oh, and if you mail me the document, I can post it on my web page.
> Unless someone else wants it, of course.

<Grin> You got first 'dibs' at it so its 'yours' by which I assume no
ownership or right to pass the said document via electronic mail...
sorry just hyping up to write a disclaimer :)
My offer to individually distribute it to anyone who requests it still
stands, not that this is really a scoop, though it is nice background
info for any snake shamens etc :)
In what format do you want me to email it to you, the original word
document (which is going to be finished tonight, even if I have to
slip a few crystals of caffeine into my blood system :>) or a text
document?

Toodle pip!

Piers

"Curse the blasted jelly-boned swines, the slimy
belly-wriggling invertebrates, the miserable sodding
rotters, the flaming sods, the sniverlling, dribbling,
dithering, palsied pulseless lot that make up Engand
today. They've got the white of egg in their veins,
and their spunk is that watery it's a marvel they can
breed. Why, why, why, was I born an Englishman!"
D.H. Lawrence (1912)
Message no. 9
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Greeting and request
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 23:08:42 +0000 (GMT)
|As a single message or the entire thing? How about if I zip the
|document?

NO! Please! No zipped and uuencoded here. Please?
They're more trouble that they're worth most of the time.
Instead, send them in segments. That way we can see if we want it and delete
it if we don't, without having a massive document.
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Message no. 10
From: melchar@****.darkside.com (Melchar)
Subject: Re: Greeting and request
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 96 12:13:03 PST
BTW - does anyone know of a web-site that has Shadowrun information
available? (Thanks!)
Message no. 11
From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.com>
Subject: Re: Greeting and request
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:36:30 PST
melchar@****.darkside.com (Melchar) (Yes, I know this is unusual for
me, but I want him to know it's him) wrote:
>available? (Thanks!)

Uhhh...

Could you repeat that?

--
Shiftboy (aka Benjamin Kercheval)
benjamin@*****.com (NOT whatever happenes to be in the From: line today)

Probably the world's only 14-year-old Weretiger PhysAd

no website

Whee.
Message no. 12
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Greeting and request
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:56:13 +0100
Piers Meynell said on 26 Mar 96...

> Id appreciate some advice from someone, and OK to go ahead with the
> posting, Gurth? :)

Erm... I'm kind of puzzled as to why you are asking me about this...?
Although I must say I'd rather see it posted on a web site somewhere
instead of on the list (has to do with that damn mail downloading I have
to do).

>From another message:
> As a single message or the entire thing? How about if I zip the
> document?

I don't think FL likes binaries sent to the list (anyone remember that
SR logo that had the top of one of the horns missing?)...

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Message no. 13
From: melchar@****.darkside.com (Melchar)
Subject: Re: Greeting and request
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 14:14:10 PST
Benjamin <benjamin@*****.com> writes:

> melchar@****.darkside.com (Melchar) (Yes, I know this is unusual for
> me, but I want him to know it's him) wrote:
> >available? (Thanks!)
>
> Uhhh...
>
> Could you repeat that?

I think that my request got snipped when someone quoted it. I was
asking (am asking) if there are Shadowrun files available from anywhere
that I can find on the WWW.

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