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Message no. 1
From: Paul Gettle <RunnerPaul@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: [GridSec/FAQ] FAQing off [was: Test message]
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:21:03 -0400
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At 05:13 PM 7/26/98 -0700, GridSec Dvixen wrote:
>At 04:48 PM 7/26/98 , you wrote:
>>|Just a quick question from a newbie, how do I get the FAQ? I did
not see
>>|anything listed in the initial mail.
>>
>>It was pointed to in an earlier message, but to tell you the truth,
I've not
>>seen it myself in a while. It *should* be posted to the list at
semi-regular
>>intervals.
>
>There is a mini FAQ being posted to the list a minimum of once a
month. The
>full FAQ is no longer being posted to the list due to the whining and
>complaining each time is was posted.

A minimum of once a month? I could have sworn it's been longer than
that. I always found it odd that for a posting titled "Bi-Weekly
MiniFAQ", more than two weeks would go by between postings. You'd
think you could automate the process somehow, through software.

The other thing I've always wondered, is why the URL for the FAQ
couldn't be included in the email that the listserver sends out to
inform users that their subscription attempt was successful. That sort
of greeting message is quite common on other lists I've been on; does
this listserver engine just not support that sort of thing?

I know I felt like quite the ass when I made my first posting to
ShadowRN, because I had to ask where the FAQ was.
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Message no. 2
From: "M. Sean Martinez" <ElBandit@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [GridSec/FAQ] FAQing off [was: Test message]
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 23:10:15 EDT
Greetings!!!

I remember thinking about putting the FAQ for the ShadowRN list on my web=
site, but one of the administrators seem to have a fit over it. Needle=
ss to say I never went through with it nor have I ever put a link to an=
y of the sites with the FAQ.

Mailing out the FAQ when a person first accesses a mail list should be do=
ne. In the long run it will answer a lot of questions and perhaps preve=
nt a few misunderstandings.

Just my .02¥

-Bandit
Message no. 3
From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: [GridSec/FAQ] FAQing off [was: Test message]
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:06:19 -0600
At 23:10 26/07/98 -0400, you wrote:

>I remember thinking about putting the FAQ for the ShadowRN list on my web
>site, but one of the administrators seem to have a fit over it. Needless
to >say I never went through with it nor have I ever put a link to any of
the >sites with the FAQ.

How many HUNDREDS of dead links, never updated web pages, and under
maintained FTP sites are there, that still point to old locations of the
FAQ, and other prominent Shadowrun web pages?

*That* is why we don't want people mirroring the FAQ.

>Mailing out the FAQ when a person first accesses a mail list should be
done. >In the long run it will answer a lot of questions and perhaps
prevent a few >misunderstandings.

I'll be setting the mini-FAQ to be automatically sent to new subscribers as
soon as I sort a few things out.

-Adam
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Message no. 4
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: [GridSec/FAQ] FAQing off [was: Test message]
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:12:28 +0100
M. Sean Martinez said on 23:10/26 Jul 98,...

> Mailing out the FAQ when a person first accesses a mail list should be done.
> In the long run it will answer a lot of questions and perhaps prevent a few
> misunderstandings.

AFAICR that's what happened when I first subscribed to this list --
I got a "welcome to ShadowRN@*****.nic.surfnet.nl" message
and another one containing the FAQ. I always thought it was a
very good way of handling things, but I have no idea why it's not
done anymore nowadays...

At the very least, the welcome message should contain a pointer
to the FAQ on the WWW, I feel.

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Message no. 5
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [GridSec/FAQ] FAQing off [was: Test message]
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:14:24 +0100
And verily, did M. Sean Martinez hastily scribble thusly...
|Mailing out the FAQ when a person first accesses a mail list should be do=
|ne. In the long run it will answer a lot of questions and perhaps preve=
|nt a few misunderstandings.

That did actually happen when we were still on list-proc a couple of years
ago, but for some reason, the move to majordomo and then listserv-lite
stopped all that....
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Message no. 6
From: K is the Symbol <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [GridSec/FAQ] FAQing off [was: Test message]
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 15:10:48 EDT
In a message dated 7/27/1998 4:14:32 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
gurth@******.NL writes:

> AFAICR that's what happened when I first subscribed to this list --
> I got a "welcome to ShadowRN@*****.nic.surfnet.nl" message
> and another one containing the FAQ. I always thought it was a
> very good way of handling things, but I have no idea why it's not
> done anymore nowadays...
>
> At the very least, the welcome message should contain a pointer
> to the FAQ on the WWW, I feel.
>
I actually got a mini-faq (I thought I did anyway) when I reapplied earlier
this summer when Mark shut down the list because of the "replicating bug" that
had developed in the server.

-K

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