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Message no. 1
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: [GridSec] OT: Babylon 5 news
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 14:44:45 -0500
On 1 May 98 at 14:31, Steven A. Tinner wrote:

> >Thought I'd do a service to the list by dropping some news.
>
> How is this a service?
> I know a few members of Gridsec are B5 fans, but please, I for one
> am sick of this clutter. I don't watch B5, and have no desire to.
> I'm sure there are B5 mialing lists out there, if not, go to
> http://www.coollist.com and start one.
> That way you can keep this OT crap off ShadowRN, OK?

Hi Steve! :)

Your right, of course, but I hope your not implying that this thread
was allowed to continue because someone in GridSec is interested in
it, because that's not the case. It will be squelched if it continues
past the allowed period of time, I assure you.

But thanks for your message. Maybe it will die quicker now. :)
(hint,hint)

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Message no. 2
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: [GridSec] OT: Babylon 5 news
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 15:24:36 -0400
At 02:44 PM 5/1/98 -0500, you wrote:
>On 1 May 98 at 14:31, Steven A. Tinner wrote:
>
>> >Thought I'd do a service to the list by dropping some news.
>>
>> How is this a service?

Because I know that it's a topic of interest to more than just GridSec. It
was news of interest to a significant portion of this list.

>Your right, of course, but I hope your not implying that this thread
>was allowed to continue because someone in GridSec is interested in
>it, because that's not the case. It will be squelched if it continues
>past the allowed period of time, I assure you.

Wait a minute, I don't fucking get it. Instead of keeping on with the
silly thread of "what was Ivanova's quote?" or whatever, I changed it and
gave it *some* purpose other than people going "yeah, that's it!."

I changed the subject header to accuratly describe what the message was so
that there would be no confusion as to what it was about; not only was
there an "OT" to signify it wasn't SR related, I blatantly stated "Babylon
5 news." Off-Topic threads are lucky to have such a brutally obvious
Subject header so people can avoid it if they chose. Apparently this
wasn't clear enough for Tinner, who despite his apparent hatred/dislike of
B5, STILL opened up the message and read at least more than just a line or
two.

I wasn't trying to open up any sort of B5 discussion on RN, I was simply
dropping some info that I knew a significant portion of this list would be
interested in. It was never intended to go any farther than that. I
wasn't continuing a thread, I wasn't intending on starting a new one.

No, it wasn't directly SR related. But because of that, I tried to make it
clear that is was of interest to only a part of the list. I tried to make
it a "closed" post, with little real avenue for follow-up messages.

But instead of that, we get one person's complaint, GridSec beginning to
step in, and several other messages about it all. ALL of which could have
been avoided if one person had simply taken heed of a very clear subject
header.

This whole thing is starting to piss me off. Yes, I made an off-topic
posting, but I *blatantly* stated that fact so that it could be avoided or
ignored.

I mean damn, this Linux debate, of which the majority of e-mails have been
about today, is friggin' pointless. It's already gone on too long. The
only irk I have is when downloading those messages, since I don't actually
read them since I know what they are about! That thread is more of a
threat to bandwidth than this little problem!

I had been in a pretty good mood so far this morning, but thanks Tinner,
you put me in as bad a mood as you obviously are. Thanks.

Erik J.

Fuck the .sig
Message no. 3
From: Jacob Engstrom <sabredanz@****.COM>
Subject: Re: [GridSec] OT: Babylon 5 news
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 16:05:33 EDT
On Fri, 1 May 1998 15:24:36 -0400 Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM> writes:
>Wait a minute, I don't fucking get it. Instead of >keeping on with the
silly thread of "what was
>Ivanova's quote?" or whatever, I changed it
>and gave it *some* purpose other than people going >"yeah, that's it!."

Get used to it. It was a similar frustration that led to my post using
the word "Gestopo". The only thing I can think that could help is that
every time you see a post you don't like is report it to GridSec. Perhaps
things
would be a little more even handed.

Sabredanz

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