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From:	Dvixen dvixen@****.com
Subject:	[GridSec] Re: [OT] Hotmail
Date:	Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:24:02 -0700

Message no. 1 >> Is it just me, or is everybody getting their messages to the
>> hotmail.com
>> domain bounced? Nothing is getting through for the last 3-4 days.
[snip]

I just checked the subscriber list, and pretty much everyone who is on
hotmail has had their list delivery disabled. Due, no doubt, to a server
that went down at hotmail or somesuch.

This is something that list software this list runs on does, and to be
honest, it's a good thing it does, or the Admins would have their listboxes
flooded everytime some's mail server goes down. Especially with the way
some people send out 12 mails to the list at a time.

If you for some reason stop gettingm ail from the lists, go to
http://jackpoint.org/mailman/listinfo/ and choose the list you are
wondering about. Follow the instructions to see what you have set for your
account, and just change it back to email, once you are CERTAIN that mail
will no longer bounce.

>It is not just you. For the last couple of months now I have not
>recieved any mail from the list at my Hotmail account. I tried to
>bring this to the attention of Gridsec but never heard back from them,
>nor has the problem been rectified. I finally gave up an subscribed
>from an account I have a Yahoo.

<vent>
You couldn't have tried too hard to let GridSec know, since this is the
first I have heard of it, and this particular subject has been covered by
numerous people on many occasions. I didn't realise it was such a difficult
thing to go and check out what options were available for a mailing list.
</vent>
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From:	Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject:	[GridSec] Re: [OT] Hotmail
Date:	Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:48:11 +0200

Message no. 2 According to Dvixen, at 23:24 on 26 Apr 99, the word on
the street was...

> >It is not just you. For the last couple of months now I have not
> >recieved any mail from the list at my Hotmail account. I tried to
> >bring this to the attention of Gridsec but never heard back from them,
> >nor has the problem been rectified. I finally gave up an subscribed
> >from an account I have a Yahoo.
>
> <vent>
> You couldn't have tried too hard to let GridSec know, since this is the
> first I have heard of it

Same here.

> and this particular subject has been covered by numerous people on many
> occasions. I didn't realise it was such a difficult thing to go and
> check out what options were available for a mailing list.
> </vent>

It is difficult to check if you don't know where. Like, if you've been set
to NOMAIL _before_ it was pointed out on the list how to check your
settings -- which only came up last time someone mentioned not receiving
anything from the list, at which time it's obviously not going to help.

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From:	David Buehrer dbuehrer@******.carl.org
Subject:	[GridSec] Re: [OT] Hotmail
Date:	Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:33:44 -0600 (MDT)

Message no. 3 Gurth wrote:
/
/ According to Dvixen, at 23:24 on 26 Apr 99, the word on
/ the street was...
/
/ > >It is not just you. For the last couple of months now I have not
/ > >recieved any mail from the list at my Hotmail account. I tried to
/ > >bring this to the attention of Gridsec but never heard back from them,
/ > >nor has the problem been rectified. I finally gave up an subscribed
/ > >from an account I have a Yahoo.
/ >
/ > <vent>
/ > You couldn't have tried too hard to let GridSec know, since this is the
/ > first I have heard of it
/
/ Same here.

Ditto :-/

FWIW, GridSec can help you with subscription commands (how to
subscribe, unsubscribe, check or change your settings, etc) but that's
it. If there's a real problem with your subscription you need to
contact Adam or Mark.

-David
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From:	Josh Munn barnack2@*****.com
Subject:	[GridSec] Re: [OT] Hotmail
Date:	Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:28:58 -0700 (PDT)

Message no. 4 --- Dvixen <dvixen@****.com> wrote:
> >> Is it just me, or is everybody getting their messages to the
> >> hotmail.com
> >> domain bounced? Nothing is getting through for the last 3-4 days.
>
> [snip]
>
> I just checked the subscriber list, and pretty much everyone who is
> on
> hotmail has had their list delivery disabled. Due, no doubt, to a
> server
> that went down at hotmail or somesuch.
>
> This is something that list software this list runs on does, and to
> be
> honest, it's a good thing it does, or the Admins would have their
> listboxes
> flooded everytime some's mail server goes down. Especially with the
> way
> some people send out 12 mails to the list at a time.
>
> If you for some reason stop gettingm ail from the lists, go to
> http://jackpoint.org/mailman/listinfo/ and choose the list you are
> wondering about. Follow the instructions to see what you have set for
> your
> account, and just change it back to email, once you are CERTAIN that
> mail
> will no longer bounce.
>
> >It is not just you. For the last couple of months now I have not
> >recieved any mail from the list at my Hotmail account. I tried to
> >bring this to the attention of Gridsec but never heard back from
> them,
> >nor has the problem been rectified. I finally gave up an subscribed
> >from an account I have a Yahoo.
>
> <vent>
> You couldn't have tried too hard to let GridSec know, since this is
> the
> first I have heard of it, and this particular subject has been
> covered by
> numerous people on many occasions. I didn't realise it was such a
> difficult
> thing to go and check out what options were available for a mailing
> list.
> </vent>
> --
> Dvixen - dvixen@****.com - ShadowRN GridSec Consulatant (100¥/hr)
> Of course I know where the bodies are buried! I've got the FSH!
> ShadowRN FAQ - http://shadowrun.html.com/hlair/faqindex.php3
> Keeper of the Rabid Woodchuck - Blue Moon Pesterer of The DLOH
>
I did check my options setings (in fact I checked them before I sent
anything to you folks on the problem). I found that the settings where
correct (at least as far as the web page that came up with my account
info was concerned) that is when I sent GridSec a farely detailed
message about no longer receiving mail from the list and the steps I
had taken to find out what was the problem. I recieved no reply to my
message so I resubscribed from a different email address. You are
correct in that I did not send GridSec any more messages after the
first since I figured you folks were working on it and would get back
to me when it you had it fixed and did not want to make myself a
nusence since I was not severly inconvienced because I was getting the
list mail a another address.
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