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Message no. 1
From: Dvixen <dvixen@****.COM>
Subject: [GridSec] Re: Shadowland Web Site
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:40:49 -0800
I believe this was meant to be a private mail.

Please, everyone, avoid using the lists' address as your reply-to, as mails
meant with good intention to go private, don't. This means if your mailer
overrides the reply to for the list so you get list messages privately,
you'll have to get used to it.


At 12:42 AM 01/02/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Oliver McDonald wrote:
>
>> What are you needing in terms of hosting? How large is your site?
>>
>
>It requires on the order of 100-200 megs, and I need the capability to run
>my own programs on the machine (since there are two Java applications that
>function as
>servers for the site).
>
>Dave

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Message no. 2
From: Oliver McDonald <oliver@****.SPYDERNET.COM>
Subject: Re: [GridSec] Re: Shadowland Web Site
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:12:27 -0800
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:40:49 -0800, Dvixen wrote:

>I believe this was meant to be a private mail.
>
>Please, everyone, avoid using the lists' address as your reply-to, as mails
>meant with good intention to go private, don't. This means if your mailer
>overrides the reply to for the list so you get list messages privately,
>you'll have to get used to it.

I am confused. My from address is me. My reply to address is the list. I have been told
repeatedly that I can not have my reply to address as my address. This mail goes
through a separate account I use ONLY for Shadowrun. Why am I getting told one thing
one day, and another on a different day?

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Message no. 3
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [GridSec] Re: Shadowland Web Site
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:03:57 -0600
From: Oliver McDonald
Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 8:12 PM

> I am confused. My from address is me. My reply to address
> is the list. I have been told repeatedly that I can not have
> my reply to address as my address.

Actually, Oliver, the easiest way is to just leave the reply-to field
blank. Mail to the list will put the list's address there
automatically; you don't need to do anything to/for that field. It
won't hurt your mailer or anything else.

> This mail goes through a separate account I use ONLY for Shadowrun.
> Why am I getting told one thing one day, and another on a different
> day?

I don't think you are. I think, from the looks of things, that you're
reading things wrong, however.

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El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.
Message no. 4
From: Oliver McDonald <oliver@****.SPYDERNET.COM>
Subject: Re: [GridSec] Re: Shadowland Web Site
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:38:41 -0800
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:03:57 -0600, Patrick Goodman wrote:

>From: Oliver McDonald
>Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 8:12 PM
>
>> I am confused. My from address is me. My reply to address
>> is the list. I have been told repeatedly that I can not have
>> my reply to address as my address.
>
>Actually, Oliver, the easiest way is to just leave the reply-to field
>blank. Mail to the list will put the list's address there
>automatically; you don't need to do anything to/for that field. It
>won't hurt your mailer or anything else.

My mailer will not allow a blank reply to field.

>> This mail goes through a separate account I use ONLY for Shadowrun.
>> Why am I getting told one thing one day, and another on a different
>> day?
>
>I don't think you are. I think, from the looks of things, that you're
>reading things wrong, however.

When I explained this the last time, I was told to put the list address in the reply to
field.

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"We all enter this world in the same way: naked, screaming, and soaked in blood. But
if you live your life right, that kind of thing doesn't have to stop there."
Dana Gould.

Space. The Final Frontier. Let's not close it down.
Brought to you via CyberSpace, the recursive frontier.
Message no. 5
From: K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [GridSec] Re: Shadowland Web Site
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:51:47 EST
In a message dated 2/1/1999 10:39:10 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
oliver@****.SPYDERNET.COM writes:

> My mailer will not allow a blank reply to field.

Try leaving a "<space>" in the field. It's what I have to do when
performing
subscrips and/or commands to the listserv.

> When I explained this the last time, I was told to put the list address in
> the reply to field.

This will also work of course (in theory, assuming your mailer isn't Otaku
possessed or something ;).

-K
Message no. 6
From: Oliver McDonald <oliver@****.SPYDERNET.COM>
Subject: Re: [GridSec] Re: Shadowland Web Site
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:22:11 -0800
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:51:47 EST, K in the Shadows wrote:

>In a message dated 2/1/1999 10:39:10 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
>oliver@****.SPYDERNET.COM writes:
>
>> My mailer will not allow a blank reply to field.
>
>Try leaving a "<space>" in the field. It's what I have to do when
performing
>subscrips and/or commands to the listserv.

Thanks. It is seeming to work.

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Oliver McDonald - oliver@*********.com
http://web2.spydernet.com/oliver/shadowrun.html
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"We all enter this world in the same way: naked, screaming, and soaked in blood. But
if you live your life right, that kind of thing doesn't have to stop there."
Dana Gould.

Space. The Final Frontier. Let's not close it down.
Brought to you via CyberSpace, the recursive frontier.
Message no. 7
From: A Halliwell <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [GridSec] Re: Shadowland Web Site
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:36:30 +0000
And verily, did Oliver McDonald hastily scribble thusly...
|My mailer will not allow a blank reply to field.

I think the obvious thing to say here is....

Get a proper mailer....
Reply to is an option. NO e-mailer should FORCE it.
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Message no. 8
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: [GridSec] Re: Shadowland Web Site
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:42:05 +0100
According to Oliver McDonald, at 19:38 on 1 Feb 99, the word on
the street was...

> >I don't think you are. I think, from the looks of things, that you're
> >reading things wrong, however.
>
> When I explained this the last time, I was told to put the list address
> in the reply to field.

In that case I think what's going on is that you're accidentally sending
replies to the original poster rather than to the list. When your replies
go to the list, nothing weird happens -- the reply-to points to the list,
so that's where any replies will go. However, if you DON'T send your reply
to the list, you still have that reply-to field...

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Message no. 9
From: Tim Kerby <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [GridSec] Re: Shadowland Web Site
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:28:13 -0500
On 1 Feb 99, at 19:38, Oliver McDonald wrote:

> My mailer will not allow a blank reply to field.

Your using PMMail for OS/2, right? You can put a space there, and it
will take it as blank. At least it did for me.

-Tim
<who still has an OS/2 partition for just such testing>

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