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Message no. 1
From: Jason Ustica <usticaj@**.ERAU.EDU>
Subject: Half-race question
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 18:08:14 -0700
I'm probably gonna get thwapped for this, considering the contents of the
other posts about halfling and kenders, but are there any rules regarding
half-(fill in race), half-(fill in another race) characters in SR? Is it
even possible?

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Message no. 2
From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
Subject: Half-race question
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 20:37:21 -0500
>>>>> "Jason" == Jason Ustica <usticaj@**.ERAU.EDU> writes:

Jason> I'm probably gonna get thwapped for this, considering the contents
Jason> of the other posts about halfling and kenders, but are there any
Jason> rules regarding half-(fill in race), half-(fill in another race)
Jason> characters in SR? Is it even possible?

Yes, there are rules. They're in the Shadowrun rulebook: there are no
halfbreeds in Shadowrun. You are either born human, possibly metamorphosing
sometime during your life, or you are born one of the metahuman species.
There are no half-whatevers whatsoever.

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Message no. 3
From: Chris Aurand <caurand@*******.FREENET.ORG>
Subject: Re: Half-race question
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 21:50:35 -0500
On Tue, 7 Feb 1995, Jason Ustica wrote:

> I'm probably gonna get thwapped for this, considering the contents of the
> other posts about halfling and kenders, but are there any rules regarding
> half-(fill in race), half-(fill in another race) characters in SR? Is it
> even possible?
I'll let the rule experts answer the first, as on the second question,
from my standpoint ANYTHING is possible, the game's limets are the
imagenation of the 1) the GM and 2) the players. I just advise that you
set up PREdetermened rules for the player and you had better stick to
them. I've experimented with new kind of magic user that can shape shift,
I set limets and to get new things to change to spend karma, it works
good if you have an experienced player. BTW, it's fun because when they
try spying as a fly I only let them see what they would as if they WHERE
a fly. They soon find the drawbacks.
Message no. 4
From: Jakub Paluszak <PALUSZAK@******.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Half-race question
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 04:34:09 CET
It isn't possible. If you try to mix, for example an elf and a human,
a child will be a human or an elf (50% for each).
Message no. 5
From: "Thomas W. Craig" <Craigtw1@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Half-race question
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 23:50:34 -0500
There are two possiblities on this question. First one is that there
are no half-races. The second is that all races are half-races, except
humans; but that too is possible. My personal belief is the first. As to
why:
Many Elves and Dwarves as well as Orcs and Trolls were born to human
parents. Orcs and Trolls even changed from being elves, dwarves or humans in
their pubescent(sp?) period.
Tom Craig
Message no. 6
From: Chris McKinnon <cmckinno@********.CA>
Subject: Re: Half-race question
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:28:56 -0400
On Tue, 7 Feb 1995, Thomas W. Craig wrote:

> Many Elves and Dwarves as well as Orcs and Trolls were born to human
> parents. Orcs and Trolls even changed from being elves, dwarves or humans in
> their pubescent(sp?) period.

Actually, if you read the rules, it appears that Elves and Dwarves do
_not_ goblinize ... at least not since 2014 (I think that's the date). It
states now that Elves and Dwarves are born, and Orcs and Trolls goblinize
during puberty, or early adulthood.

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Message no. 7
From: Frank Steinhauer <steinhau@**********.UNI-FRANKFURT.DE>
Subject: Re: Half-race question
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 10:06:33 +0100
> There are no half-whatevers whatsoever.

> Rat <ratinox@***.neu.edu>

Exept, naturally, HALFlings. They are no half-breeds, they are just so called by
the huge people (like 'normal' humans).

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Message no. 8
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Half-race question
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 10:36:17 +0100
>I'm probably gonna get thwapped for this, considering the contents of the
>other posts about halfling and kenders, but are there any rules regarding
>half-(fill in race), half-(fill in another race) characters in SR? Is it
>even possible?

No rules as such, but the Metahumanity chapter of SR2 says that people with
parents of different races become one of those races, not a mixture: if your
daddy is an elf and your mommy is an ork, you're likely to be an ork, though
there's a small chance you would become and elf. To be precise:

"Elves and dwarfs are nearly always born to parents of the same race. Elves
beget elves, dwarfs beget dwarfs, and so on. In the instances of attempts at
natural crossbreeding the child is always of the same race as either the elf
or dwarf parent. There appears to be an almost exact 50 percent chance of
either expression. No true half-breeds or crossbreeds are known to exist. By
2050 dual human parentage almost never results in elf or dwarf offspring.
The same holds true for orks and trolls, who are nearly always born to
parents of the same race. Unlike the early days of goblinization, it is now
rare for a human child (dual human parentage) to express into ork or troll
form, but it does occur. Crossbreed attempts between the elf/dwarf group and
the ork/troll group nearly always result in a goblinized expression." --SR2
page 34


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Message no. 9
From: Jani Fikouras <feanor@**********.UNI-BREMEN.DE>
Subject: Re: Half-race question
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:40:42 +0100
> Actually, if you read the rules, it appears that Elves and Dwarves do
> _not_ goblinize ... at least not since 2014 (I think that's the date). It
> states now that Elves and Dwarves are born, and Orcs and Trolls goblinize
> during puberty, or early adulthood.

Ahhhhh, how perceptive :) maybe thats why its called goblinisation, as
I dont think that anyone would describe elves as goblins :) .

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Message no. 10
From: Jani Fikouras <feanor@**********.UNI-BREMEN.DE>
Subject: Re: Half-race question
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:49:29 +0100
> > There are no half-whatevers whatsoever.

exactly.

>Exept, naturally, HALFlings. They are no half-breeds, they are just so called by
>the huge people (like 'normal' humans).

And there are no halflings either, they are called hobbits(tm).

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Message no. 11
From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Half-race question
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:00:59 -0500
>>>>> "Jakub" == Jakub Paluszak
>>>>> <PALUSZAK%PLEARN.bitnet@*****.NIC.SURFNET.NL> writes:

Jakub> It isn't possible. If you try to mix, for example an elf and a
Jakub> human, a child will be a human or an elf (50% for each).

Nope. The child will be either human, elf, or one of the other metahuman
species. There are no half-breeds.

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