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Message no. 1
From: Andy Butcher <Fiend@*********.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: HB Monsters (Riggers and cyberware)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 09:29:15 +0100
Robert Watkins wrote:

>The generally accepted excuse is that Riggers need the equivalent of Wired
>Reflexes to get the speed advantage. I mean, there are advantages for
>cybernetic control that anyone with a datajack can get, but for the real
>juicy stuff, you need internal hardware. There's still some physical
>control, ya know.

Is there? The few times that riggers have been described in the books
they've kinda 'slumped' in their seats (one actually drooled, if I remember
correctly). I always figured that datajack control involved some physical
input as well, but not full on rigging.

>Also, remember that, typically, programs aren't run on a deck. You've got
>your MPCP, but just about everything else would run in the system where
>your persona is... which is why it adds to system load. Nobody could cram
>enough gear into a deck for it to be able to handle EVERYTHING that's
>involved in decking. A rigger system, however, is totally self-contained.

A rigger system isn't self contained. First you install the datajack/remote
control system, then the Rigger Control Gear. If the datajack stuff is the
servos, sensors and so on, the the RCG must be mainly processing power.

So, if the rigger doesn't use any physical control, and there's processing
in the vehicle, why do you need wired reflex-style boosts? Wired nerves just
transmit impulses from the brain faster. If a rigger has the lead plugged
into his skull, that'd bypass all that stuff. In which case the reflex boost
from the cyberware is really just am measure of its processing speed (like
in a deck) - it can't make you think quicker, after all. Okay, there's still
going to be more hardware than just the datajack, but nowhere near as much
as wired reflexes et al.

Or am I hopelessly confused? ;)

Andy Butcher | "Whether you think you will succeed
PC Gamer Magazine | or not, you are right."
Fiend@*********.co.uk | Henry Ford
Message no. 2
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: HB Monsters (Riggers and cyberware)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:06:33 +0930
Andy Butcher wrote:
> Robert Watkins wrote:
> >The generally accepted excuse is that Riggers need the equivalent of Wired
> >Reflexes to get the speed advantage. I mean, there are advantages for
> >cybernetic control that anyone with a datajack can get, but for the real
> >juicy stuff, you need internal hardware. There's still some physical
> >control, ya know.
>
> Is there? The few times that riggers have been described in the books
> they've kinda 'slumped' in their seats (one actually drooled, if I remember
> correctly). I always figured that datajack control involved some physical
> input as well, but not full on rigging.

Well, there is the way I play it... :) But then, I've got some physical
reaction in decking as well, unless you go for the full cybernetic
interface.

> >Also, remember that, typically, programs aren't run on a deck. You've got
> >your MPCP, but just about everything else would run in the system where
> >your persona is... which is why it adds to system load. Nobody could cram
> >enough gear into a deck for it to be able to handle EVERYTHING that's
> >involved in decking. A rigger system, however, is totally self-contained.
>
> A rigger system isn't self contained. First you install the datajack/remote
> control system, then the Rigger Control Gear. If the datajack stuff is the
> servos, sensors and so on, the the RCG must be mainly processing power.

But in a deck, you've got machines vastly more powerful to handle the large
heavy duty section of the work. In a rigger system, there's you, your deck,
and the vehicle. That's what I meant by "totally self-contained".

> So, if the rigger doesn't use any physical control, and there's processing
> in the vehicle, why do you need wired reflex-style boosts? Wired nerves just
> transmit impulses from the brain faster. If a rigger has the lead plugged
> into his skull, that'd bypass all that stuff. In which case the reflex boost
> from the cyberware is really just am measure of its processing speed (like
> in a deck) - it can't make you think quicker, after all. Okay, there's still
> going to be more hardware than just the datajack, but nowhere near as much
> as wired reflexes et al.

> Or am I hopelessly confused? ;)

Dunno... anyway, the idea is that there's simply more to do (or at least as
much) in rigging, and far less hardware to do it with.

--
Robert Watkins bob@**.ntu.edu.au
Real Programmers never work 9 to 5. If any real programmers
are around at 9 am, it's because they were up all night.
*** Finger me for my geek code ***

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