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Message no. 1
From: Razor Girl <sprawlg@*******.COM>
Subject: Healing Drain
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:47:27 PDT
Hey guys, give me a hand.

Ever since i got BABY 979 i have been looking for the section on magic
spells healing drain. I remember reading a post on the list about not
being able to heal Physical drain damage. Where is it in the Book?

Thanks.

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Message no. 2
From: David Foster <fixer@*******.TLH.FL.US>
Subject: Re: Healing Drain
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:06:25 -0400
On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Razor Girl wrote:

->Hey guys, give me a hand.
->
->Ever since i got BABY 979 i have been looking for the section on magic
->spells healing drain. I remember reading a post on the list about not
->being able to heal Physical drain damage. Where is it in the Book?

A reference to it is made on pg. 193: "No techniques currently
known to magic can erase fatigue, cure psychological conditions or cure
Drain."

Fixer --------------} The easy I do before breakfast,
the difficult I do all day long,
the impossible only during the week,
and miracles performed on an as-needed basis....

Now tell me, what was your problem?
Message no. 3
From: Chris <chris_hayes@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Healing Drain
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:15:05 -0700
> On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, David Foster wrote:
>
> ->Hey guys, give me a hand.
> ->
> ->Ever since i got BABY 979 i have been looking for the section on magic
> ->spells healing drain. I remember reading a post on the list about not
> ->being able to heal Physical drain damage. Where is it in the Book?
>
> A reference to it is made on pg. 193: "No techniques currently
> known to magic can erase fatigue, cure psychological conditions or cure
> Drain."
>

But isn't that only referring to Stun Drain? Physical Drain I would
imagine could be healed...

Christopher Hayes
"Who put their hoo-hoo dilly in your cha-cha?" - Cartman
Message no. 4
From: bryan.covington@****.COM
Subject: Re: Healing Drain
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:29:45 -0400
> > A reference to it is made on pg. 193: "No techniques
> currently
> > known to magic can erase fatigue, cure psychological conditions or
> cure
> > Drain."
> >
>
> But isn't that only referring to Stun Drain? Physical Drain I
> would
> imagine could be healed...
>
Nope. Be careful mageboy. :)
Message no. 5
From: David Foster <fixer@*******.TLH.FL.US>
Subject: Re: Healing Drain
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:43:11 -0400
On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Chris wrote:

->> On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, David Foster wrote:
->>
->> ->Hey guys, give me a hand.
->> ->
->> ->Ever since i got BABY 979 i have been looking for the section on magic
->> ->spells healing drain. I remember reading a post on the list about not
->> ->being able to heal Physical drain damage. Where is it in the Book?
->>
->> A reference to it is made on pg. 193: "No techniques currently
->> known to magic can erase fatigue, cure psychological conditions or cure
->> Drain."
->>
->
-> But isn't that only referring to Stun Drain? Physical Drain I would
->imagine could be healed...

It says Drain, and doesn't specify which kind, which means all
kinds, including that Drain from Conjuring.
I also found the refernce we were all interested in on Pg. 162,
BBB3, Under Drain (oddly enough): "Physical damage caused by Drain cannot
be healed using magic, only by rest and medical attention."

On a related topic: What happens when, while you're designing a
spell, you drop the Drain Level (L,M,S,D) to one below L, and your Drain
Power modifier is already negative? I was working on my cantrips and hit
this snag. No drain? Reduce the Power even further? {Although -5(L) is
very ridiculous, a Force 14 cantrip required to get a 2L drain code?
Talk about silly, a Force 14 anything will whomp big time.} Help!

Fixer --------------} The easy I do before breakfast,
the difficult I do all day long,
the impossible only during the week,
and miracles performed on an as-needed basis....

Now tell me, what was your problem?
Message no. 6
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Healing Drain
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:36:12 -0400
Chris wrote:
> > ->Hey guys, give me a hand.
> > ->
> > ->Ever since i got BABY 979 i have been looking for the section on magic
> > ->spells healing drain. I remember reading a post on the list about not
> > ->being able to heal Physical drain damage. Where is it in the Book?
> >
> > A reference to it is made on pg. 193: "No techniques currently
> > known to magic can erase fatigue, cure psychological conditions or cure
> > Drain."
>
> But isn't that only referring to Stun Drain? Physical Drain I
> would
> imagine could be healed...
>
If you don't like that quote, how about this one (SR3 p162):
"Physical damage caused by Drain cannot be healed using magic, only by
rest and medical attention."

Clear enough? ;-)

James Ojaste
Message no. 7
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Healing Drain
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:41:56 +0200
According to David Foster, at 13:43 on 11 Sep 98, the word on the street was...

> On a related topic: What happens when, while you're designing a
> spell, you drop the Drain Level (L,M,S,D) to one below L, and your Drain
> Power modifier is already negative? I was working on my cantrips and hit
> this snag. No drain? Reduce the Power even further?

Per the Grimoire II, if the Drain Level would drop below L, it stays at L.
You don't subtract 2 from the Drain Target (although if you go over D, you
add 2 to the DT for every level over D).

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Message no. 8
From: The Great Cornholio <ChemPhD2Be@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Healing Drain
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 16:56:07 EDT
In a message dated 98-09-11 13:35:32 EDT, fixer@*******.TLH.FL.US writes:

<< It says Drain, and doesn't specify which kind, which means all
kinds, including that Drain from Conjuring.
I also found the refernce we were all interested in on Pg. 162,
BBB3, Under Drain (oddly enough): "Physical damage caused by Drain cannot
be healed using magic, only by rest and medical attention."

On a related topic: What happens when, while you're designing a
spell, you drop the Drain Level (L,M,S,D) to one below L, and your Drain
Power modifier is already negative? I was working on my cantrips and hit
this snag. No drain? Reduce the Power even further? {Although -5(L) is
very ridiculous, a Force 14 cantrip required to get a 2L drain code?
Talk about silly, a Force 14 anything will whomp big time.} Help! >>

I've always used a house rule that lowering a power level reduces the force by
2 if it's less than L. It's the inverse of the Level greater than D adding 2
to the force for each additional level. In any way, you can't get lower than
2L. :-)

In Drain matters, my most famous character, Spellslinger, spent 90 days
designing a spell to counter drain effects. It was a healing spell called
"Stun Relief". From what I remember of figuring the dynamics of the spell,
was to base it off of the spell "heal" except apply it to drain. In this
case, force is 10-essence, level is stun found level, and force is -1 due to
it affecting "stun" damage only. However, the nature of stun is so that the
spell must be cast in 2 conditions: in the golden hour (e.g. Treat) or before
the first block of stun is lost naturally, whichever is first.. Stimpatches
screw the spell. This spell didn't set game balance on its ear. Keep in mind
a mage healing himself is possible, but has to worry about the drain from the
spell as well as target mods due to injury.

This spell was a guarded secret, not so much as some other spells, but SS was
selfish with almost all spells he designed.

TGC

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