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Message no. 1
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:47:58 -0700 (PDT)
I need a favour, guys. :)

I want to know ALL the words for:

a) Hell
b) night
c) dark
d) war
e) apocalypse

and any other such nasty terms you can think of, in
ANY language you know.

====Doc'
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S.S. f. P.S.C. & D.J.

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Message no. 2
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT)
> I need a favour, guys. :)
>
> I want to know ALL the words for:
>
> a) Hell
> b) night
> c) dark
> d) war
> e) apocalypse
>
> and any other such nasty terms you can think of, in
> ANY language you know.

*Doc' slappeth his foreheadeth...*

Can you believe I forgot to add:

f) death

???

====Doc'
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Message no. 3
From: Barbie LeVile barbie@********.de
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:14:44 +0200
Rand Ratinac wrote:
>
> > I need a favour, guys. :)
> >
> > I want to know ALL the words for:
> >
> > a) Hell
> > b) night
> > c) dark
> > d) war
> > e) apocalypse
> >
> > and any other such nasty terms you can think of, in
> > ANY language you know.
>
> *Doc' slappeth his foreheadeth...*
>
> Can you believe I forgot to add:
>
> f) death
>
German:

a) Hölle
b) Nacht
c) Dunkel
d) Krieg
e) Apocalypse
f) Tot in the meaning of the death or tod as in the state of being

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Message no. 4
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:48:07 -0700 (PDT)
> German:
>
> a) Hölle
> b) Nacht
> c) Dunkel
> d) Krieg
> e) Apocalypse
> f) Tot in the meaning of the death or tod as
> in the state of being
> Barbie - Prayers are like junkmail for Jesus

Hah! So "Baron Todbringer" (Warhammer Fantasy) is
actually "Baron Deathbringer"! Cool. :)

Thanks, Barbie.

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Message no. 5
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:03:23 -0700 (PDT)
> > I need a favour, guys. :)
> >
> > I want to know ALL the words for:
> >
> > a) Hell
> > b) night
> > c) dark
> > d) war
> > e) apocalypse
> >
> > and any other such nasty terms you can think of,
> in
> > ANY language you know.
>
> *Doc' slappeth his foreheadeth...*
>
> Can you believe I forgot to add:
>
> f) death

*sigh*

One last one:

g) hellfire

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Message no. 6
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:51:58 -0700 (PDT)
> > > I need a favour, guys. :)
> > >
> > > I want to know ALL the words for:
> > >
> > > a) Hell
> > > b) night
> > > c) dark
> > > d) war
> > > e) apocalypse
> > >
> > > and any other such nasty terms you can think of,
> > in
> > > ANY language you know.
> >
> > *Doc' slappeth his foreheadeth...*
> >
> > Can you believe I forgot to add:
> >
> > f) death
>
> *sigh*
>
> One last one:
>
> g) hellfire

Probably my last post on the matter. :) Internet
translators are all well and good, but I've already
used one of those for a bunch of languages (speaking
of which, I noticed that Rat is Serbian for war - if
there's anyone out there who speaks Serbian, I'd
appreciate a full translation of my name :) ). I'd
prefer to get data from actual "students" of the
languages.

Oh, and most importantly, I'd really appreciate Latin translations.

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Message no. 7
From: Logan Graves logan1@********.net
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 00:46:42 -0400
Rand Ratinac wrote:
>
> I need a favour, guys. :)
>
> I want to know ALL the words for:
Sounds like you need to get a thesaurus, too bad they're all extinct now. ;-p

Ya can't beat English for synonyms! Why don't you take & run these words thru
the webpage translators & see what you get!

> a) Hell
Abaddon, abyss, Acheron, affliction, agony, anguish, Antenora, Avernus, blazes,
bolgia, Caïna, chthonic, Cocytus, Dis, Erebus, Gehenna, Hades, infernal regions,
inferno, Judecca, Lethe, lower regions, Maleborge, myrtrdom, misery, nether
world, nightmare, ordeal, Pandemonium, perdition, Phlegethon, Ptolomea, sheol,
Styx, sulphurous, suffering, Tartarus, the Pit, "Three Glooms," Tophet, torment,
trial, underworld, wretchedness

> b) night
blackness, close of day, crepuscle, crepusclar, crepusculum, dark, darkmans,
darkness, dead of night, decline of day, dusk, eve, evening, eventide, gloam,
gloaming, hour of darkness, midnight, nightfall, nighttide, nocternal,
noctambulant, noctambulous, noctivagant, noctivagous, noctiflorous, noctilucous,
noctipotent, noontide, vespers, vespertine, vespertinal, witching hour

> c) dark
adumbration, aphotic, atramentous, black, blackout, boskey, bowery, caliginous,
caliginosity, Cimmerian, dreary, dingy, dusk, fuliginous, fuscous, gloom,
gloomy, inky, lightless, murk, murky, nigritude, obscure, obscuration,
obscurity, opacity, rayless, shades, shadowgram, shadows, skiagraph, skiagram,
somber, sooty, Stygian, subfuscous, sunless, swart, swarth, tenebrous,
tenebrosity, Tophet, umbra' unilluminated, unlighted, unlit, (see: "night")

> d) war
affray, aggression, altercation, assault, assail, battle, besiege, bombard,
bloodshed, brawl, campaign, cannonade, clash, combat, conflict, contend,
contention, contest, controversy, crusade disagree, dispute, dragonnade,
enimity, falling-out, feud, fighting, fracas, fray, hostilities, imbroglio,
incursion, invasian, jihad, rift, maraud, melee, mil op, monomachy, offensive,
onslaught, pugilism, raid, razzia, skirmish, sortie, storm, strive, strife,
struggle, take up arms, ultima ratio regum, velitation, warfare

> e) apocalypse
destruction, doomsday, fatidic, final destiny, judgement day, omnious, oracular,
portentous, revelational, revelatory, TEOTWAWKI, vitac

> f) death
annihilation, bane, bereavement, cesstation, curtians, decease, demise,
departure, destruscion, dissolution, dormation, downfall, dying, end,
eradication, exit, expiration, extermination, extinction, fatality, finish,
grave, in extremis, loss, memento mori, mortality, necrosis, obitum,
obliteration, passing, quietus, release, ruin, ruination, Thanatos, undoing,
(see: "apocalypse")

> g) hellfire (other than the curseword, not exactly sure how you meant this)
absinthial, acrid, banefire, brimstone, caustic, mordant, surphurous, vitriolic

AND

Here's some Japanese translations (which greatly depends on the usage):
a) jigoku or jigoku no yö <--- that's a long O, or 'oo'
b) yoru or ban
c) kuroppi or yügure <-- a long vowel U, or 'uu'
d) tatakai or sensö <--- another long O, or 'oo'
e) (don't think I ever heard that term)
f) shi
g) (ditto)


That's all I can find/think of...
Can you tell I'm getting tired?

--Fenris
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Message no. 8
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:01:09 -0700 (PDT)
> > I need a favour, guys. :)
> >
> > I want to know ALL the words for:
> Sounds like you need to get a thesaurus, too bad
they're all extinct now. ;-p

I have one at home. It just sucks. :) Anyway, thanks
for all the verbosity, Fenris. :)

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Message no. 9
From: Jeff axter@*****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:06:58 -0700 (PDT)
Here they go in french:
a) Hell Enfer
b) night Nuit
c) dark Sombre, foncé
d) war Guerre
e) apocalypse Apocalypse
f) death Mort
g) hellfire Les feux de l'enfer


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Message no. 10
From: Barbie LeVile barbie@********.de
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 07:44:47 +0200
Rand Ratinac wrote:
>

>
> g) hellfire
>
Höllenfeuer

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Message no. 11
From: Even even@***********.fr
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:08:11 +0200
Here we go in Norwegian:

> a) Hell - Helvete
> b) night - Natt
> c) dark - Mørk, dyster, obskur, dunkel
> d) war - Krig
> e) apocalypse - Apokalypse. :)
> f) death - Død
> g) hellfire - Helvetesild

Now I'm getting curious. Might I ask what this is for?
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Message no. 12
From: Peter Kristiansen sds@**.auc.dk
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:08:39 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Even wrote:

> Here we go in Norwegian:
>
> > a) Hell - Helvete
> > b) night - Natt
> > c) dark - Mørk, dyster, obskur, dunkel
> > d) war - Krig
> > e) apocalypse - Apokalypse. :)
> > f) death - Død
> > g) hellfire - Helvetesild
>

Danish (even though I feel a bit weird copying most from above O;-)

a: Helvede
b: Nat
c: Mørk, dyster
d: Krig
e: Apokalypse (or the end of the viking world: Ragnarok)
f: Død
g: helvedesild, or: Skærsild

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Message no. 13
From: Peter Kristiansen sds@**.auc.dk
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:13:42 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Peter Kristiansen wrote:

> e: Apokalypse (or the end of the viking world: Ragnarok)

Argh, forgot: Domme dag. Actually it's Judgement day but it is used
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Message no. 14
From: Arclight arclight@*********.de
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:45:23 +0200
And finally, Rand Ratinac expressed himself by writing:

<snip>

> a) Hell
> b) night
> c) dark
> d) war
> e) apocalypse
> f) death
> g) hellfire

in latin (directly from my dictionary):

a)
b) nox*
c) niger, noctu ("at night")
d) bellum
e)
f) mors*, mortuus as "being dead", nex as "murder"
g)

(*= also means "Goddess of x"

and apocalypse could also mean "Weltuntergang" in
german. I'll post the missing words this evening, as I
only have my latin-german dictionary with me and I don't
feel like reading the whole book for three words.

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Message no. 15
From: James Day Moody jdm7@**********.ac.uk
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:51:23 +0100 (BST)
> > > c) dark - Mørk, dyster, obskur, dunkel

Dunkel? What does Zahn mean, if anyhing?

James
Message no. 16
From: Peter Steen Kristiansen sds@**.auc.dk
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 13:56:44 +0200 (MET DST)
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, James Day Moody wrote:

> > > > c) dark - Mørk, dyster, obskur, dunkel
>
> Dunkel? What does Zahn mean, if anyhing?
>
Well, I don`t know of Zahn meaning anything in Norwegian, but
"dunkel" is also the German word for "dark", and "zahn" is
the German
word for "tooth".

Dunkelzahn = Darktooth.

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Message no. 17
From: Barbie LeVile barbie@********.de
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:14:58 +0200
James Day Moody wrote:
>
> > > > c) dark - Mørk, dyster, obskur, dunkel
>
> Dunkel? What does Zahn mean, if anyhing?
>
> James

Tooth

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Message no. 18
From: Daniel Sauve ahsdreamwalker@****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:15:52 -0400
> > > c) dark - Mørk, dyster, obskur, dunkel

> Dunkel? What does Zahn mean, if anyhing?

Tooth, I believe. (Earthdawn people, hol;d off the parrels unless you
change the subject. 8)
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Message no. 19
From: Airwisp@***.com Airwisp@***.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:39:00 EDT
In a message dated 4/23/2000 8:48:24 PM , docwagon101@*****.com writes:

> I need a favour, guys. :)
>
> I want to know ALL the words for:

In Italian, and Paolo, if I goof up, bear with me, I have not carried on a
conversation fluently in Italian in over 7 years (the one with my Purdue
Physics TAs).

> a) Hell

L'Inferno

> b) night

notte

> c) dark

oscuro

> d) war

guerra

> e) apocalypse
>
> and any other such nasty terms you can think of, in
> ANY language you know.

There ya go, though only what you asked for ...

-Mike
Message no. 20
From: Airwisp@***.com Airwisp@***.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:40:03 EDT
In a message dated 4/23/2000 9:02:32 PM , docwagon101@*****.com writes:

> f) death

morte (which means dead)
ammazato / ucciso (means killed)
suicidio (suicide)


> ???
Message no. 21
From: Arclight arclight@*********.de
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:37:11 +0200
ok, the missing ones are:

> > a) Hell
> > b) night
> > c) dark
> > d) war
> > e) apocalypse
> > f) death
> > g) hellfire
>
> in latin (directly from my dictionary):
>
> a)

found nothing; AFAICR, they had an own
name for it, but it escapes me atm...

> b) nox*
> c) niger, noctu ("at night")
> d) bellum
> e)

nothing, again.

> f) mors*, mortuus as "being dead", nex as "murder"
> g)

nothing, "for three" ;)

> (*= also means "Goddess of x"
>
> and apocalypse could also mean "Weltuntergang" in
> german. I'll post the missing words this evening, as I
> only have my latin-german dictionary with me and I don't
> feel like reading the whole book for three words.
>
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Message no. 22
From: Even even@***********.fr
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:56:27 +0200
> Well, I don`t know of Zahn meaning anything in Norwegian,
> but "dunkel" is also the German word for "dark", and
"zahn"
> is the German word for "tooth".

Zahn would be 'tann' in Norwegian. Same word, different spelling.
Message no. 23
From: Jan Jaap van Poelgeest aka nevermelt jjp@******.nl
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:03:09 +0200
Well, methinks Gurth's just waiting for a fellow Dutchman to do this
'un, just so he can disagree. That, or he discreetly decided to reply to
Rand in private, which is what we all should've done in the first place,
but then: I love full mailboxes ;).

English - Dutch

a) Hell - Hel
b) night - nacht
c) dark - donker, duister
d) war - oorlog
e) apocalypse - apocalyps
f) death - dood
g) hellfire - hellevuur

depravity - verderf (often used in conjunction with 'dood', i.e: "dood
en verderf zullen de aarde treffen" [death and depravity shall strike
the earth]).

Latin bits:

inferne - on the lower side, below.... can be used for Hell... [infernus
is an also-correct more spooky-sounding version of the word]

"apocalyps" in latin actually translates to "a notice sent to a higher
tribunal"..... in a biblical context it does mean the good ol' judgement
day happening. "dies judicium" (uncertain about the declinations :)
could conceivably translate to judgement day, if you need an
alternative, though.

diabolus - your average devil
mortalis - mortal.
morbus - sickness, disease, illness.
occidio - slaughter, massacre.

Hey, lookie... all the basic ingredients for the sentence "In the year
2062 the devils from below shall cause disease amongst mortals,
slaughtering many" which ought to sound extremely impressive in Latin
(in stark contrast to the English version)... too bad I don't possess
the mad phat skillz required to make a proper translation. Anyone?



Retraced chattering of imitation popcorn shells.


Jan Jaap van Poelgeest aka nevermelt
Message no. 24
From: Grey metis76@*****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:05:21 -0700 (PDT)
Once this list of all the different languages is put
together, are there plans to post it someplace?
Personally I got a D or F in every secondary language
I took in school, so sorry that I can't add anything.
But I am interested in the compiled list when its
done. =)

Grey

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Message no. 25
From: Manolis Skoulikas great_worm@*****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:54:55 +0300
Rand Ratinac wrote:
>
SNIP
> and any other such nasty terms you can think of, in
> ANY language you know.
>

Since most modern languages have been covered more than adequately,
I will put in my morsel in one modern and two ancient languages:

Modern Greek:

a) Hell kolasi (KO-la-see)
b) night nikta (NEE-cta)
c) dark Skotathi (sko-TA-thee , th pronounced as in the=article)
d) war polemos (PO-le-mos)
e) apocalypse Apokalipsi (a-po-KA-lee-psee)
f) death Thanatos (THA-na-tos, th pronounced as in thorough)
g) hellfire fotia tis kolasis (fo-tee-A TEES KO-la-sees)

Ancient Greek:

a) Hell Adis (Hades), kolasis (hell), Kathartirio (purgatory)
b) night Nyx
c) dark Skotos
d) war polemos
e) apocalypse Apocalypsis
f) death Thani, Thanatos
g) hellfire Kolastirio pir (hellfire) Kathartirio pir (purgatory fire)

Latin (full translation)
a) Hell Infernus, Infernum (only in medieval pig latin)
b) night Nox
c) dark Tenebrae, obscurus,a,um
d) war Bellum, dimicatio
e) apocalypse Apocalypsis (use of latinized greek word by medieval
christian writers and translators)
As there was no such concept in the Latin religion the relevant phrases
would be :
- Revelatio (revelation=apokalypse)
- Ultimae dies (the last days as the Romans would put it, more freely:
end of days)

f) death Mors
g) hellfire Ignis infernalis, but most usual in plural ignes infernales
(always in medieval pig latin)

As I don't have a dictionary at hand, I can't remember any more right
now, but if you are interested in specific composing of original
texts(no more than two pages please), translation or else, you can state
your querry and I can try to be of service. If it is a specific rpgame
'ritual' than you want your players to experience, you can e-mail me the
english text and I will be more than happy to translate it for you. That
goes for every one else.

The Wiz

PS: btw why don't you ask barbie to tell you what your name means in
German?
Message no. 26
From: Simon Fuller sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:56:32 +1000
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From: James Day Moody <jdm7@**********.ac.uk>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Monday, April 24, 2000 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!


> > > c) dark - Mørk, dyster, obskur, dunkel

Dunkel? What does Zahn mean, if anyhing?

James

Old Dunky ate too many elves and not enough wholesome humans, and he never
brushed his teeth. The other dragons can be so cruel with their nicknames.
Message no. 27
From: Manolis Skoulikas great_worm@*****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 02:47:07 +0300
Jan Jaap van Poelgeest aka nevermelt wrote:
>
> Well, methinks Gurth's just waiting for a fellow Dutchman to do this
> 'un, just so he can disagree. That, or he discreetly decided to reply to
> Rand in private, which is what we all should've done in the first place,
> but then: I love full mailboxes ;).
>
> English - Dutch
>
> a) Hell - Hel
> b) night - nacht
> c) dark - donker, duister
> d) war - oorlog
> e) apocalypse - apocalyps
> f) death - dood
> g) hellfire - hellevuur
>
> depravity - verderf (often used in conjunction with 'dood', i.e: "dood
> en verderf zullen de aarde treffen" [death and depravity shall strike
> the earth]).
>
> Latin bits:
>
> inferne - on the lower side, below.... can be used for Hell... [infernus
> is an also-correct more spooky-sounding version of the word]
>
> "apocalyps" in latin actually translates to "a notice sent to a higher
> tribunal"..... in a biblical context it does mean the good ol' judgement
> day happening. "dies judicium" (uncertain about the declinations :)
> could conceivably translate to judgement day, if you need an
> alternative, though.
>
> diabolus - your average devil
> mortalis - mortal.
> morbus - sickness, disease, illness.
> occidio - slaughter, massacre.
>

'neco' is more appropriate for infliction of death by disease, whereas
'occido' is more direct as it consists of
ob+caedo=over+cut=significantly direct cause of death. And if I
remember the word correctly, 'clades' is a more appropriate word for
large scale massacre instead of occidio which is use for precise or
individual murders

> Hey, lookie... all the basic ingredients for the sentence "In the year
> 2062 the devils from below shall cause disease amongst mortals,
> slaughtering many" which ought to sound extremely impressive in Latin
> (in stark contrast to the English version)... too bad I don't possess
> the mad phat skillz required to make a proper translation. Anyone?
>
anno bismillesimmosexagessimosecundo (2062) domestici infernales ex
purgatorio aeterno gravisimmes morbes hominorum societati profligabunt
multosque horrendisima morte necabunt.

At the two thousandth and sixtieth second year the infernal denizens
from the eternal purgatory shall inflict the gravest of diseases to the
society of humans and many shall they kill with the most horrible of
deaths.

Any more ingredients (or not) and I can make you some Latin sounding
passage for your rpg apocalypse.
Please don't go ballistic on the terminology as I will not have access
to a dictionary until friday when i visit my father (and he would not
appreciate my making research for 'those horrible games').

The Wiz
Message no. 28
From: Dan Grabon djmoose@******.kornet.net
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:23:13 +0900
In Korean:

(n.b.-- "eo" is pronounced like "uh." Pretty much. And "u"
is "oo," not
"uh." Oh, and "eu" is... sort of like "u" through clenched
teeth)

> a) Hell
chi-ok
> b) night
bahm, cheonyeok (evening, mostly)
> c) dark
eo-du-un (adj.), eo-dum (n.-- darkness)
> d) war
cheonjaeng
> e) apocalypse
Can't say anything with certainty, but kyeshi is the Revelation and I think
kyeshirok would be the Book of Revelations.
> f) death
chukeum, samang. It's also worth noting that the "sa" in samang is the
Chinese character for death, which sounds exactly like the number 4 in
Korean (and also some other Asian languages, I think). That's why 4 is an
unlucky number in a lot of Asia (and why Australian taxis with numbers like
444-4444 don't do so hot among immigrant populations :) ). In fact, in some
buildings there is no fourth floor, just like some Western buildings are
missing the 13th floor.
> g) hellfire
uh... chiok-ui bul.

I wish I could help you out more with Chinese characters used in Korean,
since that's where things get fun. :)

-moose

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Message no. 29
From: Jill jmenning@*******.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:27:49 -0500
Here's one in french that seems to have been missed (sorry if I'm wrong
about that), and which is a personal favorite of mine, for whatever bizarre
reason...

tenebres (fem pl) - night, also means gloom, darkness

It's got a coupla accents on it, so that it is pronounced tay-neh-bruhs
(iirc - it's been a while since I've actually spoken French)

Jill
Message no. 30
From: Aewyn labsyn@*********.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:26:13 -0500
Another one that was missed in french (unless I accidentaly deleted one or
more of these posts before reading) would be obscur (dark).





Farewell,
Aewyn.
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Message no. 31
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:56:56 +0200
According to Jan Jaap van Poelgeest aka ne, at 23:03 on 24 Apr 00, the
word on the street was...

> Well, methinks Gurth's just waiting for a fellow Dutchman to do this
> 'un, just so he can disagree.

No, he sent it <hint>off-list</hint>, like he was hoping <hint>everyone
else would do, too</hint>...

> That, or he discreetly decided to reply to Rand in private, which is
> what we all should've done in the first place, but then: I love full
> mailboxes ;).

The thing is, all this is highly OT, unless Doc' somehow needs this for an
SR-related topic he's going to post about around now... And better:
everyone here should have easily spotted this as an OT thread, with which
replies are best directed to the mailbox of the person asking the question
rather than to the list.

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Message no. 32
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:31:54 -0700 (PDT)
> Here we go in Norwegian:
>
> > a) Hell - Helvete
> > b) night - Natt
> > c) dark - Mørk, dyster, obskur, dunkel
> > d) war - Krig
> > e) apocalypse - Apokalypse. :)
> > f) death - Død
> > g) hellfire - Helvetesild
>
> Now I'm getting curious. Might I ask what this is
> for?
> --
> (>) Alleycat [even.tomte@*********.com]

Nope. :)

Well, it's for a character. But that's all I'm going
to say. :)

====Doc'
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Message no. 33
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:06:42 -0700 (PDT)
> Once this list of all the different languages is put
> together, are there plans to post it someplace?
> Personally I got a D or F in every secondary
> language
> I took in school, so sorry that I can't add
> anything.
> But I am interested in the compiled list when its
> done. =)
>
> Grey

I didn't have any plans to do so. Are you
volunteering, Grey? :)

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Message no. 34
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:12:21 -0700 (PDT)
> Since most modern languages have been covered more
> than adequately,
> I will put in my morsel in one modern and two
> ancient languages:
>
> Modern Greek:
>
> a) Hell kolasi (KO-la-see)
> b) night nikta (NEE-cta)
> c) dark Skotathi (sko-TA-thee , th pronounced
> as in the=article)
> d) war polemos (PO-le-mos)
> e) apocalypse Apokalipsi (a-po-KA-lee-psee)
> f) death Thanatos (THA-na-tos, th pronounced as
> in thorough)
> g) hellfire fotia tis kolasis (fo-tee-A TEES
> KO-la-sees)
>
> Ancient Greek:
>
> a) Hell Adis (Hades), kolasis (hell),
> Kathartirio (purgatory)
> b) night Nyx
> c) dark Skotos
> d) war polemos
> e) apocalypse Apocalypsis
> f) death Thani, Thanatos
> g) hellfire Kolastirio pir (hellfire) Kathartirio
> pir (purgatory fire)
>
> Latin (full translation)
> a) Hell Infernus, Infernum (only in medieval
> pig latin)
> b) night Nox
> c) dark Tenebrae, obscurus,a,um
> d) war Bellum, dimicatio
> e) apocalypse Apocalypsis (use of latinized greek
> word by medieval
> christian writers and translators)
> As there was no such concept in the Latin religion
> the relevant phrases
> would be :
> - Revelatio (revelation=apokalypse)
> - Ultimae dies (the last days as the Romans would
> put it, more freely:
> end of days)
>
> f) death Mors
> g) hellfire Ignis infernalis, but most usual in
> plural ignes infernales
> (always in medieval pig latin)
>
> As I don't have a dictionary at hand, I can't
> remember any more right
> now, but if you are interested in specific composing
> of original
> texts(no more than two pages please), translation or
> else, you can state
> your querry and I can try to be of service. If it is
> a specific rpgame
> 'ritual' than you want your players to experience,
> you can e-mail me the
> english text and I will be more than happy to
> translate it for you. That
> goes for every one else.

Thanks VERY much, Manolis. I'm only interested in the
individual words, though, and you've covered that
quite nicely.

> PS: btw why don't you ask barbie to tell you what
your name means in German?

Because the name is Serbian. :) I suppose the
translation could be similar, but I was hoping for an
accurate Serbian to English translation. For instance,
krieg is war in German, while rat is war in Serbian -
and my name ain't Krieginac. :)

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Message no. 35
From: GuayII@***.com GuayII@***.com
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:36:08 EDT
In a message dated Mon, 24 Apr 2000 6:53:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Manolis Skoulikas
<great_worm@*****.com> writes:

> Rand Ratinac wrote:
> >
> SNIP
> > and any other such nasty terms you can think of, in
> > ANY language you know.
> >
>
> Since most modern languages have been covered more than adequately,
> I will put in my morsel in one modern and two ancient languages:
>
> Modern Greek:
>
> a) Hell kolasi (KO-la-see)
> b) night nikta (NEE-cta)
> c) dark Skotathi (sko-TA-thee , th pronounced as in the=article)
> d) war polemos (PO-le-mos)
> e) apocalypse Apokalipsi (a-po-KA-lee-psee)
> f) death Thanatos (THA-na-tos, th pronounced as in thorough)
> g) hellfire fotia tis kolasis (fo-tee-A TEES KO-la-sees)
<snip>

And thank you for the phonetic guide with it!
Cash
Message no. 36
From: Grzegorz Ruminski gburus@***.univ.szczecin.pl
Subject: Hell, damn, bugger, bum!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:48:15 +0200 (METDST)
Here they are in Polish (btw, am I the only Pole on this list? ;])

a) Hell - Pieklo ('l' is crossed with a line)
b) night - noc
c) dark - ciemnosc ('s' and 'c' have a diacrytic sign above)
d) war - wojna
e) apocalypse - apokalipsa
f) death - smierc ('s' has a diacrytic sign above)


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