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Message no. 1
From: dghost@****.com dghost@****.com
Subject: Hello Kitty T-Shirts
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:14:18 -0600
Okay, I read the "SANRIO.COM WEB SITE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF USE" and as
some people said from the beginning, I SERIOUSLY soubt we could use a
Hello Kitty derivative work for the list shirt. I reccomend that the
Hello Kitty concept be stricken from the Ballot. If there is demand, I
can ask Sanrio for permision to create and use Cyberpunk Hello Kitty. I
wouldn't hold your breath though ... :/

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D. Ghost

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Message no. 2
From: Manx timburke@*******.com.au
Subject: Hello Kitty T-Shirts
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:40:56 +1000
At 00:14 30/03/99 -0600 dghost@****.com wrote
> I recommend that the Hello Kitty concept be stricken from the Ballot.
>D. Ghost

I wholeheartedly second the motion.

Manx
Message no. 3
From: GMPax@***.com GMPax@***.com
Subject: Hello Kitty T-Shirts
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:09:46 EST
In a message dated 3/30/99 1:28:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, dghost@****.com
writes:

> Okay, I read the "SANRIO.COM WEB SITE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF USE" and as
> some people said from the beginning, I SERIOUSLY soubt we could use a
> Hello Kitty derivative work for the list shirt. I reccomend that the
> Hello Kitty concept be stricken from the Ballot. If there is demand, I
> can ask Sanrio for permision to create and use Cyberpunk Hello Kitty. I
> wouldn't hold your breath though ... :/

So long as it is a PARODY, then copyright and trademark do NOT enter into the
equation. Period.

And I suspect a mean, lean, Hello CyberKitty would be seen as a valid parody:
we would have SPECIFICALLY sought out the _apotheosis_ of Cyberpunk: "cute and
cuddly" ...

Ergo, no problems: SANRIO has no copyright or trademark issues to call us on.
:-) Not under US law at least, and if the T-Shirts and List are both US
based, then, it's legit to use US law, AFAIK.

Sean
GM Pax
gmpax@***.com
ICQ 18582108
Message no. 4
From: A Halliwell u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk
Subject: Hello Kitty T-Shirts
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 13:12:08 +0100 (BST)
And verily, did Manx hastily scribble thusly...
|
|At 00:14 30/03/99 -0600 dghost@****.com wrote
|> I recommend that the Hello Kitty concept be stricken from the Ballot.
|>D. Ghost
|
|I wholeheartedly second the motion.

I thought we'd all agreed to strike it from the ballot before the ballot
even came out anyway...

Or do some people disagree with the concept of NOT putting things on the
shirt that 90% of the worlds population wouldn't get, and 5% who do get it,
hate it?
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