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Message no. 1
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject: Here Be Dragons
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 02:33:03 +1000
I noticed one of the more common threads on the list is dragons, so I'm
posting the list of Great Dragons supplied by Gurth to my homepage, with
additions (let me know if you object, Gurth).

I'd like to add a Lesser Dragon category, but I don't own enough of the
sourcebooks, modules or novels to compile a complete list... can people
please let me know (on the list or through private email) about the
lesser dragons, including the dragon's name, type (feathered, western
etc), any notable facts, and what source material it comes from?

Thanks guys...

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 2
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 11:18:19 +0100
Lady Jestyr said on 2:33/24 Aug 97...

> I noticed one of the more common threads on the list is dragons, so I'm
> posting the list of Great Dragons supplied by Gurth to my homepage, with
> additions (let me know if you object, Gurth).

No objections from me. It'll be in NERPS: Lost And Found anyway, which I
should send off to Paolo real soon. Better do that right now, come to
think of it...

> I'd like to add a Lesser Dragon category, but I don't own enough of the
> sourcebooks, modules or novels to compile a complete list... can people
> please let me know (on the list or through private email) about the
> lesser dragons, including the dragon's name, type (feathered, western
> etc), any notable facts, and what source material it comes from?

Eliohann, a western dragon from the "Dragon Hunt" adventure, is the only
one I can think of right now.

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Message no. 3
From: George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 15:24:35 -0400
In a message dated 97-08-23 12:38:09 EDT, you write:

> I'd like to add a Lesser Dragon category, but I don't own enough of the
> sourcebooks, modules or novels to compile a complete list... can people
> please let me know (on the list or through private email) about the
> lesser dragons, including the dragon's name, type (feathered, western
> etc), any notable facts, and what source material it comes from?

Err, I take it that you want "official" ones? We've run into a lesser dragon
or two that were GM's inventions, and I've got a retired character who's
mindlinked to one.

Wolfstar
Message no. 4
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 18:24:25 -0700
---Gurth wrote:
>
> Lady Jestyr said on 2:33/24 Aug 97...
>
> > I'd like to add a Lesser Dragon category, but I don't own enough
of the
> > sourcebooks, modules or novels to compile a complete list... can
people
> > please let me know (on the list or through private email) about the
> > lesser dragons, including the dragon's name, type (feathered,
western
> > etc), any notable facts, and what source material it comes from?
>
> Eliohann, a western dragon from the "Dragon Hunt" adventure, is the
only
> one I can think of right now.

Perianwyr (Western) from Maria Mercurial and Killing Glare.

Also there's the one (other than Arleesh) in Bottled Demon but I can't
remember his name off hand (western). Don't know if he should really
be included. I won't say more for spoilers.

There's an Eastern dragon I saw in an adventure in Mob War (or maybe
Missions) , but I was just thumbing though it and haven't read far
enough into it give you any details.

===

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Message no. 5
From: Alacrity Fitzhugh <harmonix@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 22:43:34 -0700
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> From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
> To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
> Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
> Date: Sunday, August 24, 1997 3:18 AM
>
> Lady Jestyr said on 2:33/24 Aug 97...
>

[snip]

> > I'd like to add a Lesser Dragon category, but I don't own enough of the
> > sourcebooks, modules or novels to compile a complete list... can people
> > please let me know (on the list or through private email) about the
> > lesser dragons, including the dragon's name, type (feathered, western
> > etc), any notable facts, and what source material it comes from?
>
> Eliohann, a western dragon from the "Dragon Hunt" adventure, is the only
> one I can think of right now.
>

Also, Haesslich from the novels is a Lesser Dragon, not a Great.

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harmonix@**.net

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Message no. 6
From: Alacrity Fitzhugh <harmonix@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 22:46:29 -0700
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> From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
> To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
> Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
> Date: Sunday, August 24, 1997 6:24 PM
>

[snip]

>
> Also there's the one (other than Arleesh) in Bottled Demon but I can't
> remember his name off hand (western). Don't know if he should really
> be included. I won't say more for spoilers.
>

That would be Geyswain.

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Alacrity Fitzhugh (aka Chuck Stevens)
harmonix@**.net

"The perversity of the Universe
tends toward a maximum."
- Finagle
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Message no. 7
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 16:09:04 +1000
> Also, Haesslich from the novels is a Lesser Dragon, not a Great.

Evidence, please?

Last I heard, the jury was still out on Haesslich.

Lady Jestyr

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- Tamino
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http://jestyr.home.ml.org/
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Message no. 8
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 18:27:56 +1000
> > Also, Haesslich from the novels is a Lesser Dragon, not a Great.
>
> Evidence, please?
>
> Last I heard, the jury was still out on Haesslich.
>

Well, it's pretty hard to actually kill a dragon with a minigun unless
it's firing APDS. (Won't even mention stun rounds *grin*)

Besides, there was no body in the novel, and I'd rather see the dragon's
body, and stab it a few times before I believed that it was dead.

Marty
Message no. 9
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:11:19 +1000
> Well, it's pretty hard to actually kill a dragon with a minigun unless
> it's firing APDS. (Won't even mention stun rounds *grin*)

Poor Naheka... and all cause the GM wanted Karma... *grin*

> Besides, there was no body in the novel, and I'd rather see the dragon's
> body, and stab it a few times before I believed that it was dead.

Don't forget, bury it in concrete... better safe than sorry...

Lady Jestyr

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Who says I'm crazy? I prefer the term 'sensibility deficient'
- Tamino
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Elle Holmes jestyr@*******.dialix.com.au
http://jestyr.home.ml.org/
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Message no. 10
From: Jaymz <justin@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 09:24:19 -0500
At 09:11 PM 8/25/97 +1000, Lady Jestyr wrote:
#> Besides, there was no body in the novel, and I'd rather see the dragon's
#> body, and stab it a few times before I believed that it was dead.
#
#Don't forget, bury it in concrete... better safe than sorry...

yeah, bury in in concrete and then burn it!
yeah, burn it!

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Message no. 11
From: Alacrity Fitzhugh <harmonix@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:42:23 -0700
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> From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
> To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
> Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
> Date: Sunday, August 24, 1997 11:09 PM
>
> > Also, Haesslich from the novels is a Lesser Dragon, not a
Great.
>
> Evidence, please?
>
> Last I heard, the jury was still out on Haesslich.
>
Evidence? Haesslich is never referred to as a Great Dragon, just as a
Dragon. The Great Dragons are so important, the author would have made
certain we knew exactly what he was. And why would a Great Dragon settle
for being the security head of some po-dunk minor Corp? How the frag could
he be (allegedly) killed with just a minigun? Considering what it took to
take out Dunkelzahn, it would take more than just a sammy with a big gun to
take down a Great Dragon. Haesslich's "death" didn't meet with the same
kind of Dragon funeral-type display that Dunkelzahn's "death" did.
What more evidence do you need?

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Alacrity Fitzhugh (aka Chuck Stevens)
harmonix@**.net

"The perversity of the Universe
tends toward a maximum."
- Finagle
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Message no. 12
From: Stefan <casanova@***.PASSAGEN.SE>
Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 00:33:48 +0000
[SNIP]
> take down a Great Dragon. Haesslich's "death" didn't meet with the same
> kind of Dragon funeral-type display that Dunkelzahn's "death" did.

Well perheps people just liked Dunkelzahn ... Name a person that
liked Haesslich ? ;)

/Stefan
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Message no. 13
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Here Be Dragons
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 18:09:28 +1000
> > Last I heard, the jury was still out on Haesslich.
> >
> Evidence? Haesslich is never referred to as a Great Dragon, just as a
> Dragon. The Great Dragons are so important, the author would have made
> certain we knew exactly what he was.

<snip>

Lady J was talking about the jury still being out about his death. He
certainly wasn't a great..... He (was) a Lesser, that's fairly certain, he
just may not be dead.

(After all, he was Cheif of Security at United Oil, and losing him would
have caused an upset).

Marty

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