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Message no. 1
From: Quindrael D.N.M.vanNederveen@****.warande.ruu.nl
Subject: High School and College education Edges in SR3Comp
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:57:32 +0200
Can anyone give me the descriptions of these Edges in SR3? A player wants
to know what they do, and I only have SR2Comp (SR3Comp nowhere to be found
in the Netherlands).

And did they just change the costs of a few Edges and Flaws, or did they
tweek the whole system?

VrGr David

"Sobald der Mensch in der Lage ist künstliches Leben zu erzeugen,
ist die Theorie von Gott hinfällig."
(In Strict Confidence - CD-booklet of Cryogenix)

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Message no. 2
From: 00DNA mcmanus@******.albany.edu
Subject: High School and College education Edges in SR3Comp
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:35:34 -0400
At 07:57 PM 6/21/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Can anyone give me the descriptions of these Edges in SR3? A player wants
>to know what they do, and I only have SR2Comp (SR3Comp nowhere to be found
>in the Netherlands).
>
>And did they just change the costs of a few Edges and Flaws, or did they
>tweek the whole system?
>
>VrGr David

The High School and College Education Edges are in the SR2Comp...at least
in the US Version. I can't recall the High School Edge, but the College
edge lets you default to other "college type education" skills at only +1.
Like going from Physics to Chemistry and Math, etc. I believe the High
School does the same but for a different category? There is also Tech
School edge which does the same but for technical skills like Electronics.

I don't think they changed the cost of the edges and flaws from the SR2
version, but I didn't take a super close look. Mostly for the edges and
flaws they took ones listed in other books like VR2, Rigger 2 and
CyberPirates and added them. And then added one or two actual new ones.


--00DNA
"...user connection terminated."
Message no. 3
From: Quindrael D.N.M.vanNederveen@****.warande.ruu.nl
Subject: High School and College education Edges in SR3Comp
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:48:02 +0200
>The High School and College Education Edges are in the SR2Comp...

I know. That's why I ask what they do in SR3 (with the completely changed
system - there's no skill web anymore, remember?).

VrGr David

"Sobald der Mensch in der Lage ist künstliches Leben zu erzeugen,
ist die Theorie von Gott hinfällig."
(In Strict Confidence - CD-booklet of Cryogenix)

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Message no. 4
From: dghost@****.com dghost@****.com
Subject: High School and College education Edges in SR3Comp
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:37:40 -0500
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:57:32 +0200 Quindrael
<D.N.M.vanNederveen@****.warande.ruu.nl> writes:
>Can anyone give me the descriptions of these Edges in SR3? A player
wants
>to know what they do, and I only have SR2Comp (SR3Comp nowhere to be
found
>in the Netherlands).

No more High School Education.
College and Technical Shool Education edges decreases the defaulting
modifier for Academic Knowledge and Background Knowledge skills
(respectively) by 1.

>And did they just change the costs of a few Edges and Flaws, or did they
>tweek the whole system?

Yes. :)

There are some changes to many of the edges and flaws. Some have been
removed completely (addiction is gone.) while new ones have been added (I
just made a character with the Astral Chameleon edge :). Check it out
when you get the chance.

--
D. Ghost
(aka Pixel)
"Vampires have an oral fixation"

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Message no. 5
From: Kenneth Vinson kennethv@****.wisc.edu
Subject: High School and College education Edges in SR3Comp
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:06:23 -0500
Quindrael wrote:

> >The High School and College Education Edges are in the SR2Comp...
>
> I know. That's why I ask what they do in SR3 (with the completely changed
> system - there's no skill web anymore, remember?).
>
> VrGr David

Not having the book with me, here's what I remember to get you started.

College Education reduces the defaulting penalty from one college type
Knowledge skill to another closely related Knowledge skill from +2 to +1 and
all college type Knowledge skills default to Intelligence at +3 instead of
+4. Please don't hold me to exact wording here.

Technical School Education reduces the defaulting penalty in a similiar
fashion for Background skills.

I personally don't think Tech School Ed is worth the cost since it
specifically states in BBB that Background skills may never, unless
specifically noted, be used as Complementary Skills. I have been considering
changing, in my own game, the Tech School Edge to apply to B/R skills. I
think that would make it a little more worthwhile. Just my thoughts, open
for comment.

-Ken Vinson

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Message no. 6
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: High School and College education Edges in SR3Comp
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:00:49 +0200
According to Quindrael, at 20:48 on 21 Jun 99, the word on
the street was...

> I know. That's why I ask what they do in SR3 (with the completely changed
> system - there's no skill web anymore, remember?).

<plug>
http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/srbooks/sw.html
</plug>

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Now all of them have gone or changed
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Message no. 7
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: High School and College education Edges in SR3Comp
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:00:50 +0200
According to Quindrael, at 19:57 on 21 Jun 99, the word on
the street was...

> Can anyone give me the descriptions of these Edges in SR3?

HS education doesn't exist anymore, it's now the "baseline" education a
shadowrunner is assumed to have (which, IMHO, is a good thing). College
Education costs 1 point, as does Technical School Education. CE allows you
to default to Academic Knowledge skills at +1 from a skill, +2 from a
specialization, and +3 from an attribute. TSE does the same but for
Background Knowledge skills.

> A player wants to know what they do, and I only have SR2Comp (SR3Comp
> nowhere to be found in the Netherlands).

Funny, a few of my players bought it not too long ago (at the
Spellenspektakel, I think).

> And did they just change the costs of a few Edges and Flaws, or did they
> tweek the whole system?

They changed some edge and flaw costs, and tweaked the building point cost
table a bit (like adding otaku and shapeshifters, and using different
costs for drwaf/ork and elf/troll).

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Now all of them have gone or changed
-> ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 8
From: Quindrael D.N.M.vanNederveen@****.warande.ruu.nl
Subject: High School and College education Edges in SR3Comp
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:29:22 +0200
>> A player wants to know what they do, and I only have SR2Comp (SR3Comp
>> nowhere to be found in the Netherlands).
>
>Funny, a few of my players bought it not too long ago (at the
>Spellenspektakel, I think).

Maybe then, but after 800 guilders in two days I decided it was enough (I
was so glad I finally found RA:S). I can't find it at the moment in Utrecht
or Amsterdam, and they told it me it was currently sold out at the
distributor. I'll just have to wait a few weeks I guess.

VrGr David

"We are all of different sexes, though with only two brands of equipment"
(Greg Bear - "Slant")

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Message no. 9
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: High School and College education Edges in SR3Comp
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:11:25 +0200
According to Quindrael, at 0:29 on 23 Jun 99, the word on
the street was...

> >Funny, a few of my players bought it not too long ago (at the
> >Spellenspektakel, I think).
>
> Maybe then, but after 800 guilders in two days I decided it was enough

Good point :)

> (I was so glad I finally found RA:S). I can't find it at the moment in
> Utrecht or Amsterdam

Though I don't get to the big cities often, the few times I have gone to
some game stores, I've left disappointed about what they stock just about
every time...

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Now all of them have gone or changed
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->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
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