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Message no. 1
From: Adam J adamj@*********.html.com
Subject: Hitting people with Chairs (Was Edges and Flaws)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 08:33:57 -0600
At 12:41 5/23/00 +0200, Gurth wrote:

>Two small problems with this approach: first of all, Sam would need to hit
>Bob with the same number of successes (I can't think of a way to say this
>without using game terms) each time, and the number would need to be
>known; and second, if you hit Bob with something I have a feeling it'll
>bounce off and Bob will roll away. Adam, care to do some testing? :)

Whoah. This is what I get for not reading everything every thread on the
list as they arrive..

In theory, getting hit in the head with a steel chair, wrestling style,
doesn't hurt much. The way the folding chair is built means it absorbs most
of its impact against itself, as opposed of transferring it to the persons
noggin. Some guys tend to put their hands up to spread the impact of the
chair over a larger area, but that apparently doesn't help much.

Taking it across the back is apparently much easier, because it's spread
across a larger area of the body. You can see this when someone like Shane
McMahon wallops Undertaker over the back with a chair, and Undertaker does
nothing but shrug and turn around, whereas if Undertaker was supposed to
fall down as part of the plot, he would. :-)

I don't have any personal experience with this area, however in the case of
a legit chair shot I would certainly say that Strength(Stun) would be
appropriate. Watch Terry Funk[1] wander around in a daze after taking 5
chairshots in a match, and tell me that it doesn't do some level of damage.

Also note that although it may be obvious to some people, it hurts MORE if
the table/chair/whatever doesn't break, because it's much more jarring. It
just looks better if it breaks. ;)

Adam
[1] Of course, Terry Funk has taken thousands of them over his career, so
he's probably not a great example.
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Message no. 2
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Hitting people with Chairs (Was Edges and Flaws)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 19:29:41 +0200
According to Adam J, at 8:33 on 1 Jun 00, the word on the street was...

> >if you hit Bob with something I have a feeling it'll
> >bounce off and Bob will roll away. Adam, care to do some testing? :)
>
> Whoah. This is what I get for not reading everything every thread on the
> list as they arrive..
>
> In theory, getting hit in the head with a steel chair, wrestling style,
> doesn't hurt much.[snip]

I _think_ you misunderstood what I was trying to say there... With test, I
meant: take Bob (yellow, bouncy, smiley face-- you know, the one that used
to sit on the shelves between your parents' living room and kitchen :) Hit
it with a chair. See what happens. Report back to us :)

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