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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: H&K Urban Combat and ceramic weapons (was RE: Shadowrun Update)
Date: Tue Apr 17 14:10:09 2001
According to Rand Ratinac, on Tue, 17 Apr 2001 the word on the street was...

> Seriously, Gurth, think about this - at least MAD
> systems get to make a test. The WW Infiltrator

The what? Does White Wolf make guns these days or something?

> and its light pistol cousin are UNDETECTABLE by MAD systems -
> and it's the same with any other rating 3 ceramic weapons.

That also strikes me as a bit odd. First it says +2 Conceal per level, and
then it goes on to equate +6 Conceal with absolute invisibility...

> Kinda ridiculous, sure, but not exactly the munchkin
> weapons I've been fearing for so long. :)

Like TFC said, they're just a bit too good at everything, that's the main
problem.

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Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: H&K Urban Combat and ceramic weapons (was RE: Shadowrun Update)
Date: Tue Apr 17 21:30:01 2001
> > Seriously, Gurth, think about this - at least MAD
systems get to make a test. The WW Infiltrator
>
> The what? Does White Wolf make guns these days or
something?

*lol*

Read your CC, Gurth. WW is Weapons World - IIRC, a
subsidiary of Ares.

But I suppose it could have been created as a play on
White Wolf. :)

> > and its light pistol cousin are UNDETECTABLE by
MAD systems - and it's the same with any other rating
3 ceramic weapons.
>
> That also strikes me as a bit odd. First it says +2
Conceal per level, and then it goes on to equate +6
Conceal with absolute invisibility...

Well, yes and no. From what I recall, the level
determines how much of the gun is constructed from
ceramic components. So if you extrapolate, level 1 is
approximately a third ceramic, which gives you a +2 to
concealability, level 2 is two thirds ceramic, which
gives you a +4 and level 3 is fully ceramic, at which
stage you might expect it to have a +6 concealability,
given the linear nature of the progression, but it
doesn't. It's not so much saying that a +6 to
concealability makes a gun invisible to MAD, it's
saying that being fully ceramic makes a gun invisible
to MAD - which is correct, isn't it?

> > Kinda ridiculous, sure, but not exactly the
munchkin weapons I've been fearing for so long. :)
>
> Like TFC said, they're just a bit too good at
everything, that's the main problem.
> Gurth@******.nl -

And now that I know everything, yeah, I pretty much
agree. Much too much bang for the bucks you're forking out.

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