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Message no. 1
From: 293/Douglas Miller <enigma@********.JPL.NASA.GOV>
Subject: Hoi chummers.
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 20:28:17 +0000
Hey all. I'm new to this list (obviously). Just wanted to say hey and ask
something.
I'm curious about the effects of the HMHVV in dwarves, and trolls. I know
that humans become vampires, elves become banshee, and orcs are wendigos.
anybody got some stats for these creatures?

Laterz, Enigma
Message no. 2
From: Ian Smith <KildTheCat@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Hoi chummers.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 01:01:43 -0400
>I'm curious about the effects of the HMHVV in dwarves, and >trolls. I know
>that humans become vampires, elves become banshee, and >orcs are wendigos.

Trolls become Dzoo-noo-qua. Or something of the sort ( I mean spelling wise
).
Message no. 3
From: Ioannis Pantelidis <jpante@******.COMPULINK.GR>
Subject: Re: Hoi chummers.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:58:45 +0300
On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, 293/Douglas Miller wrote:

> Hey all. I'm new to this list (obviously). Just wanted to say hey and ask
> something.
> I'm curious about the effects of the HMHVV in dwarves, and trolls. I know
> that humans become vampires, elves become banshee, and orcs are wendigos.
> anybody got some stats for these creatures?
>
> Laterz, Enigma
sorry but there are not this stats in the sr hardcover?
Message no. 4
From: Sebastian Wiers <seb@***.RIPCO.COM>
Subject: Re: Hoi chummers.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 02:24:31 -0500
>
> On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, 293/Douglas Miller wrote:
>
> > Hey all. I'm new to this list (obviously). Just wanted to say hey and ask
> > something.
> > I'm curious about the effects of the HMHVV in dwarves, and trolls. I know
> > that humans become vampires, elves become banshee, and orcs are wendigos.
> > anybody got some stats for these creatures?
> >
> > Laterz, Enigma
> sorry but there are not this stats in the sr hardcover?
>
No, They are not. They are in north american paranormals; Trolls become Tzu
no Qwa or some such pronunciation- basicly, big armored(hardened) hulks with
increased stats and most of the other vampiric powers, plus magic resistance.
Dwarves, I don't remember seeing anything on. I think they are resistant,
or just die, or at least turn into something that doesn't resemble a vampire
(no essence drain/infection). I could be wrong. Paramnaturals of europe has
Nosferatue, which are more powerful than vampires, magically at least, but
I've purposely avoided them as a favor to my GM.
Whats up? Everone seems curious about the ghennesis of vampires. Are you
going to allow PC vampires? I ask because my elf samurai may be infected.
Sebastian Wiers
aka
Mongoose
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seb@***.ripco.com
Message no. 5
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Hoi chummers.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 18:08:43 +0930
293/Douglas Miller wrote:
>
> Hey all. I'm new to this list (obviously). Just wanted to say hey and ask
> something.
> I'm curious about the effects of the HMHVV in dwarves, and trolls. I know
> that humans become vampires, elves become banshee, and orcs are wendigos.
> anybody got some stats for these creatures?

Trolls become dzoo-no-quo (sp?) and stats are in Paranormals of North
America. Dwarves? You got me, chummer...

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Message no. 6
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Hoi chummers.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 18:15:13 +0930
Sebastian Wiers wrote:
> Whats up? Everone seems curious about the ghennesis of vampires. Are you
> going to allow PC vampires? I ask because my elf samurai may be infected.

Well... if your eyes start glowing red, and your teeth grow long, and you
start looking at people's necks in a weird but strangely fascinating way,
I'd say you were a Banshee... :)

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Message no. 7
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Hoi chummers.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 13:02:28 +0200
>I'm curious about the effects of the HMHVV in dwarves, and trolls. I know
>that humans become vampires, elves become banshee, and orcs are wendigos.
>anybody got some stats for these creatures?

Dwarves become goblins (PAE, p.52), trolls become fomorians (PAE p.46) as
well as something else I think...


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Message no. 8
From: Menard Steve <menars@***.UMONTREAL.CA>
Subject: Re: Hoi chummers.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:22:59 -0400
On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, Sebastian Wiers wrote:

> >
> > On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, 293/Douglas Miller wrote:
> >
> > > Hey all. I'm new to this list (obviously). Just wanted to say hey and ask
> > > something.
> > > I'm curious about the effects of the HMHVV in dwarves, and trolls. I know
> > > that humans become vampires, elves become banshee, and orcs are wendigos.
> > > anybody got some stats for these creatures?
> > >
> > > Laterz, Enigma
> > sorry but there are not this stats in the sr hardcover?
> >
> No, They are not. They are in north american paranormals; Trolls become Tzu
> no Qwa or some such pronunciation- basicly, big armored(hardened) hulks with
> increased stats and most of the other vampiric powers, plus magic resistance.
> Dwarves, I don't remember seeing anything on. I think they are resistant,
> or just die, or at least turn into something that doesn't resemble a vampire

Does not dwarves turn into goblins?(from PAoE).

> (no essence drain/infection). I could be wrong. Paramnaturals of europe has
> Nosferatue, which are more powerful than vampires, magically at least, but
> I've purposely avoided them as a favor to my GM.
> Whats up? Everone seems curious about the ghennesis of vampires. Are you
> going to allow PC vampires? I ask because my elf samurai may be infected.

Player vampire would be the extreme of unbalancinf influence. Just the
power of regeneration is enough to an impossible to control character(I
know, I let one of my players play a shapeshifter, bad mistake!). PLus
the other powers .... as a DM I would not let that happen!

> Sebastian Wiers
> aka
> Mongoose
> 53845+14^
> seb@***.ripco.com
>

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Message no. 9
From: "Blair A. Monroe" <bmonroe@******.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Hoi chummers.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 14:50:49 -0400
> Dwarves, I don't remember seeing anything on. I think they are resistant,
> or just die, or at least turn into something that doesn't resemble a vampire
> (no essence drain/infection). I could be wrong. Paramnaturals of europe has
> Nosferatue, which are more powerful than vampires, magically at least, but
> I've purposely avoided them as a favor to my GM.

Paranturals of Europe also has Goblins...which are the result of the
occasional dwarf being infected by the virus.

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Message no. 10
From: Brett Ryan Brown <calvinoi@*******.SCRI.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Hoi chummers.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 16:39:13 18000
> >I'm curious about the effects of the HMHVV in dwarves, and trolls. I know
> >that humans become vampires, elves become banshee, and orcs are wendigos.
> >anybody got some stats for these creatures?
>
> Dwarves become goblins (PAE, p.52), trolls become fomorians (PAE p.46) as
> well as something else I think...
And to expand on that for ya'...

Dzoo-Noo-Qua
Body: 9/4
Quickness: 5 x 3
Strength: 10
Charisma: 1
Intelligence: 3/3
Willpower: 4
Essence: (5)
Reaction: 5
Attacks: 7S, +1 Reach
Powers: Enhanced Senses (Thermographic Vision), Essence Drain, Magical
Resistance
Weaknesses: Allergy(Sunlight, Mild)
Height: ?
Weight: ?

Fomorian
Body: 10/3
Quickness: 4 x 2
Strength: 11
Charisma: 1
Intelligence: 3
Willpower: 4
Essence: 5
Reaction: 4
Attacks: 9D, +1 Reach
Powers: Corrosive Secretions, Enhanced Physical Attributes (Strength, 3
times per day, increased by [EssenceV2] for [Essence]D6 turns), Enhanced
Senses (Thermographics Vision), Magical Resistance.
Weaknesses: Allergy(Air Pollution, Severe), Allergy(Sunlight, Nuisance)
Height: 3.2 meters
Weight: 300 kilograms

>>>>>This entry makes its claims with more authority than it should, and
on the basis of dubious evidence. The Tir Nan Og government doe not
exactly encourage objective research into fomorians, or anything else for
that matter, and such evidence as scientists have collected comes mostly
from fomorian corpses handed over by the Prods and carefully edited video
and photgraphic evidence. Fomorians may also be significantly less
vicious than the writer suggests, because observations have been made
only in situations in which the creatures are forced into self-defensive
combat.]<<<<<
-Linnaeus II (23:15:19/27-MAR-53)

>>>>>[Bollocks. These things are vicious predators. They're built like
APVs, and they really enjoy ripping bodies apart with their massive
claws. If you ask me, the bounties aren't big enough. The world will be a
better place when there aren't any fomorians left in it.]<<<<<
-Paisleyman (06:11:23/28-MAR-53)

>>>>>[There speaks a man who helped plant the Belfast bomb of '51 that
dusted more than a hundred innocent folks. And he says fomorians are
evil. Hmmm.]<<<<<
-Moleman (04:18:22/29-MAR-53)

>>>>>[These creatures live other places than Tir Nan Og. A small
community of them runs in the most polluted depths of London, down in the
oldest sewers where most of the toxic outflow pipes dump their garbage.
They're called mutaquas by the residents who enjoy the luxury of
inhabiting the upper rat warrens and passages, and they're damned savage
predators.]<<<<<
-Janie Jones (02:18:51/2-APR-53)

>>>>>[That opinion is ignorant and uninformed. The mutaquas are most
probably trolls mutated by the vicious cocktail of poisons and pathogens
the London corporates pour into the Thames (by arrangement with the green
government). Believing these creatures to be realted to fomorians is
typical of the comfusion surrounding trolls, fomorians, and the
dzoo-noo-qua. It's a shame that people of certain Awakened sentient races
tend to perpetuate such confusion to others' disadvatage.]<<<<<
-Stan and Hilda (22:19:32/5-APR-53)

Goblin
Body: 5
Quickness: 4 x 2
Strength: 6
Charisma: --
Intelligence: 1/5
Willpower: 5
Essence: 6
Reaction: 4*
Attacks: Humanoid
Powers: Enhanced Senses (Improved Smell and Taste), Essence Drain
(Permanent), Fire Resistance
Weaknesses: Allergy(Sunlight, Mild), Vulnerability(Iron)
Notes: 2D6 Initiative dice.
Height: 1.2 meters
Weight: 40 kilograms

>>>>>[If these things are sentient, then so's my butt.]<<<<<
-Leech (13:15:51/9-APR-51)

>>>>>I've no doubt that more intelligent noises have come out of your
butt than your mouth. The above entry is a case in point.]<<<<<
-Maybe Mary (19:45:28/9-APR-51)

>>>>>[Oh, they're smart all right. A term and I had just finished taking
care of some business in a deep forest, I won't say where, when we were
surrounded by a "hunting party" of maybe twenty of the buggers. They were
a sight, all short and scrawny in their ratty clothes and makeshift
leathers. They even carried long-haft weapons, you know, spears, and
shield with some stupid symbol painted on them. Me and my term laughed so
hard we nearly wet ourselves. I think the laughing offended the leader
(you could tell he was the leader: he got to wear the pot on his head)
'cause he yelled something and half those weezly bastards wsuddenly
whipped out pistols and SMGs and opened up on us. I don't think I've seen
so much rakkin' lead go flyin' since the last Lethal Force simshow.
Anyway, lucky for us they shoot like they smell, and we were able to run
like hell. Even worked out for the best. we left the pixie we were
supposed to take for a walk behind to collect the lead.]<<<<<
-His Soldier (21:49:37/9-APR-51)

>>>>>[All right, we can read a lot into that last posting politically,
but let's just zip it. Please. That board is down the hall.]<<<<<
-Juggler (01:23:08/10-APR-51)

>>>>>[The dwarven communities of northern Europe have been hit
particularly hard with a goblin-inducing HMHVV strain. I and others who
stufy the spread of such things are greatly concerned. HMHVV doesn't have
a dispersal vector; it must be spread directly from individual to
individual. We fear that the outbreak is considered and deliberate.]<<<<<
-Plague Mother (15:19:49/10-APR-51)

>>>>>[A frightening thought, but one that holds true for the dzoo-noo-qua
as well; neither they nor the goblins can spread the HMHVV that creates
them. Someone else is doing it. Disquieting at best.]<<<<<
-Killer Klown (18:44:38/10-APR-51)

There ya' go. That should be rather complete. Sorry I don't have the
detailed stuff for the Dzoo-Noo-Qua; I don't have P/NA.

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Message no. 11
From: Meier, Frank fmmeier@********.de
Subject: Hoi chummers
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:11:44 +0800
Hoi chummers,

a new gamemaster joined your ranks.

I just wanted to say hello to all of you. FYI, I've been playing shadowrun
since the 1st edition and GM'ed since the second. We had some very extensive
campaign during the 2nd Ed, but unfortunately we stopped playing about 2
years ago. Now I want to start again with the 3rd Ed.

Frank
Message no. 12
From: Chipeloi chipeloi@***.nl
Subject: hoi chummers
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:57:58 +0100
hi frank welkom to the club
Message no. 13
From: Scott W iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Hoi chummers
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 20:39:33 -0400
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Meier, Frank."
] Hoi chummers,
]
] a new gamemaster joined your ranks.

But not in my town...shame. :)

] I just wanted to say hello to all of you. FYI, I've been playing shadowrun
] since the 1st edition and GM'ed since the second. We had some very extensive
] campaign during the 2nd Ed, but unfortunately we stopped playing about 2
] years ago. Now I want to start again with the 3rd Ed.

Hi, welcome to the list! Hope you have a good time here, and
hopefully you're able to start up a game soon.

-Boondocker

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