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Message no. 1
From: Paul Finch <pfinch@****.EDU>
Subject: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 13:09:32 -0700
Hello got a question for all you decker types. I have a character in my
group who wants to make a home matrix system. Anyone come a ccross this
befor and what did you do about it?

Thanks Edge
Message no. 2
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 16:00:47 -0600
On Sun, 13 Nov 1994, Paul Finch wrote:

> Hello got a question for all you decker types. I have a character in my
> group who wants to make a home matrix system. Anyone come a ccross this
> befor and what did you do about it?

Start the price at about 1,000,000 nuyen for the hardware, plus many many
many many hours of programming or shitloads of nuyen for the software.

Then, when it comes online, every two-bit decker in the world will smash
it.

Should teach that pesky player to stop being annoying :-)

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Message no. 3
From: Paul Finch <pfinch@****.EDU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 16:52:41 -0700
On Sun, 13 Nov 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Nov 1994, Paul Finch wrote:
>
> > Hello got a question for all you decker types. I have a character in my
> > group who wants to make a home matrix system. Anyone come a ccross this
> > befor and what did you do about it?
>
> Start the price at about 1,000,000 nuyen for the hardware, plus many many
> many many hours of programming or shitloads of nuyen for the software.
>
> Then, when it comes online, every two-bit decker in the world will smash
> it.
>
> Should teach that pesky player to stop being annoying :-)

Well see this decker has all sorts of fun stuff and a c2 deck from hell,
all beta grade etc. Hes pretty tough as it is. Right now we are trying
to use the cyberdeck creation sheet as a guide, and upscale it from there.
The cash flow for the party is pretty good too. Im playing a mega high
level adventure and trust me its hard finding anything for the to be
chalenged. Usualy it has to be a situational chalenge more than anything
else. Right now hes got the calculations down to a year worth of
programing and I thinks its close to 5 mil =Y= worth of cash. Any ideas
on how he could program IC and or buy it?

Thanks Edge
Message no. 4
From: Damion Milliken <u9467882@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 12:51:15 +1100
Edge writes:

> Well see this decker has all sorts of fun stuff and a c2 deck from hell,
> all beta grade etc.

Erk! Beta grade stuff from Shadowtech. You weren't wrong when you said you
were running a high level game.

> Any ideas on how he could program IC and or buy it?

I'd be a good basis for a run. Break into Fuchi and steal their ICE code.
But what purpose would a home matrix system have? Why would he even need
one? I might say that perhaps the rest of SR life is getting boring for the
character, and perhaps it might be time he retired? If he's planning on
spending a year programming it, then he might as well leave the shadow
business, 'cause he'll lag behind on the cutting edge, even with all his
high end 'ware. And if he's putting aside a year for it, then he seems to be
heading in the retirement direction anyhow, so this could be a good way to
retire the character.

I don't know if you had/have any thoughts even remotely along these lines,
but if my players started to embark on one year programs which didn't really
involve running, then I'd be considering it might be time to retire the
characters.

--
Damion Milliken University of Wollongong e-mail: u9467882@***.edu.au

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Message no. 5
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@****.CAIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 21:21:08 -0500
On Sun, 13 Nov 1994, Paul Finch wrote:

> Hello got a question for all you decker types. I have a character in my
> group who wants to make a home matrix system. Anyone come a ccross this
> befor and what did you do about it?

My current character recently stole somebody else's -- or, more
accurately, we killed some people and there was one in the basement of
the house.
Not sure about the costs (if it's in the books, I haven't seen it
yet -- maybe in VRII when it comes out?), but here's a few ideas:

High-capacity optic lines (better than normal household tie-in)
Uninterruptable power supply, probably w/backup generator
Powerful processor, high MPCP-equivalent
Thousands of megapulses of memory
Assorted other hardware for each SPU, slave node, etc.

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Message no. 6
From: Zach Weenig <Zach.Weenig@*.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 19:12:22 -0700
On Sun, 13 Nov 1994, Paul Finch wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Nov 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 13 Nov 1994, Paul Finch wrote:
> >
> > > Hello got a question for all you decker types. I have a character in my
> > > group who wants to make a home matrix system. Anyone come a ccross this
> > > befor and what did you do about it?
> >
> > Start the price at about 1,000,000 nuyen for the hardware, plus many many
> > many many hours of programming or shitloads of nuyen for the software.
> >
> > Then, when it comes online, every two-bit decker in the world will smash
> > it.
> >
> > Should teach that pesky player to stop being annoying :-)
>
> Well see this decker has all sorts of fun stuff and a c2 deck from hell,
> all beta grade etc. Hes pretty tough as it is. Right now we are trying
> to use the cyberdeck creation sheet as a guide, and upscale it from there.
> The cash flow for the party is pretty good too. Im playing a mega high
> level adventure and trust me its hard finding anything for the to be
> chalenged. Usualy it has to be a situational chalenge more than anything
> else. Right now hes got the calculations down to a year worth of
> programing and I thinks its close to 5 mil =Y= worth of cash. Any ideas
> on how he could program IC and or buy it?
>
> Thanks Edge
>
Well in a campaign that i was in our decker made a home matrix
sysstem with a twist. In order to cut down on costs and memory space he
made a system like this


____ ____
|ds|______}_________|ds|
| |
| |ds | |
| |___| |
| ___|___ |
| |CPU | |
/|\ |______| \|/
| | |
| | |
--- ____ ____
|ds|---{--|spu|--{---|ds|
|
|
|
|_san_|


Sorry about the rudimentery design, but what it was that upon
entering the SPU you had 2 seconds to enter the security code otherwise
you would be forced into the loop around the datastores that was nearly
impossible to get out of unless you jack out. When you enter the code
you enter the CPU then can go to the datastore. The idea keeps the cost
down and gives deckers a little chance to have a MATRIX of there own. By
the way the DLJ are only one way. Hope this helps.
Message no. 7
From: Luke Kendall <luke@********.CANON.OZ.AU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 13:39:37 +1100
A home matrix system sounds like a contradiction in terms, to me.

It sounds like having a `home Internet'. What would he have on it - his
hi-fi system and toasters? :-)

As far as I'm aware, the Matrix is the Net presence of every Corp
and everyone else who has the hardware and telecomm connection to
interact with everyone else there.

What does he expect to achieve by building this thing? Perhaps you
could be a bit clearer?

luke
Message no. 8
From: Damion Milliken <u9467882@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 16:11:17 +1100
Someone writes:

> Sorry about the rudimentery design, but what it was that upon
> entering the SPU you had 2 seconds to enter the security code otherwise
> you would be forced into the loop around the datastores that was nearly
> impossible to get out of unless you jack out. When you enter the code
> you enter the CPU then can go to the datastore. The idea keeps the cost
> down and gives deckers a little chance to have a MATRIX of there own. By
> the way the DLJ are only one way. Hope this helps.

Tell me, why don't corps use this thing? It seems like a great idea. I'm
just a little unsure about the "2 second" and the "forced around"
bits.
Would you mind posting the justification for these two things?

--
Damion Milliken University of Wollongong e-mail: u9467882@***.edu.au

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Message no. 9
From: Zach Weenig <Zach.Weenig@*.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 23:20:36 -0700
On Mon, 14 Nov 1994, Damion Milliken wrote:

> Someone writes:
>
> > Sorry about the rudimentery design, but what it was that upon
> > entering the SPU you had 2 seconds to enter the security code otherwise
> > you would be forced into the loop around the datastores that was nearly
> > impossible to get out of unless you jack out. When you enter the code
> > you enter the CPU then can go to the datastore. The idea keeps the cost
> > down and gives deckers a little chance to have a MATRIX of there own. By
> > the way the DLJ are only one way. Hope this helps.
>
> Tell me, why don't corps use this thing? It seems like a great idea. I'm
> just a little unsure about the "2 second" and the "forced around"
bits.
> Would you mind posting the justification for these two things?
>
> --
> Damion Milliken University of Wollongong e-mail: u9467882@***.edu.au
>
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> B? e+ u@ h* f(+) !r n--(----) !y+
>
Well in, I think its, Neo Anarchist Guide to Real Life it talks
of Fuchi coming up with the same idea. The 2 second interval is done
through the SPU giving the person who is supposed to be in there just
enough time to enter his code while not allowing other deckers to execute
programs. Fuchi also came up with the ideas of one way DLJ in areas that
only need input, i.e. printers.


Zach Weenig
a.k.a Finn Mac Coll, Dr. Jekyll and many other great magicians of our time


E-Mail zach.weenig@*.cc.utah.edu
Message no. 10
From: Paul Finch <pfinch@****.EDU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 00:52:13 -0700
On Mon, 14 Nov 1994, Damion Milliken wrote:

> Edge writes:
>
> > Well see this decker has all sorts of fun stuff and a c2 deck from hell,
> > all beta grade etc.
>
> Erk! Beta grade stuff from Shadowtech. You weren't wrong when you said you
> were running a high level game.

Tell me about it, and adding the NERPS didnt help with the ammount of
stuff they had access to. But then I like the chalenge.

> > Any ideas on how he could program IC and or buy it?

> I don't know if you had/have any thoughts even remotely along these lines,
> but if my players started to embark on one year programs which didn't really
> involve running, then I'd be considering it might be time to retire the
> characters.
>
As a matter of fact it looks as if the game is starting to destabilize
some so I think that Im going to have the PC's end up crossing over to
another game I like. And as i sit here at the keyboard I cant for the life
of me remember what the name is. Its the neew one put out by GDW,
something about a dark evil force returning to the world and what not.
Ill post more later if and when they do.
Thanks

I think the main reson he's building one is that he wants the karma for it
and to give me the GM a chance to have him go up against deckers trying to
deck into it.

Laters Edge.
Message no. 11
From: Paul Finch <pfinch@****.EDU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 01:03:01 -0700
I think I stated it in my last post but mostly he looking for
Karma, experience and to give me the GM a chance to have some deckers run
against him. Egotistical? probably but man his PC is good. As far as the
home internet he wants a san to his own system so that he can have his own
world to run amok in. That should explain things better. Heck if you are
a Sam you want big guns, when you get big guns you want to get beigger
guns, and eventualy you end up having to customise new weapons to satisfy
the urge to get bigger and better. So KA!

Thanks guys and gals for all your thoughts, and ideas Ill let you know how
it turns out.

Edge
Message no. 12
From: Damion Milliken <u9467882@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 19:19:14 +1100
Zach writes:

> The 2 second interval is done through the SPU giving the person who is
> supposed to be in there just enough time to enter his code while not
> allowing other deckers to execute programs.

I assume that this is open to be stealthed through though? And is it
possible to just blast the ICE in there, and charge your way through? Oh,
and how did you get the system to shunt the decker around? I admit that it
does seem a bit contrived to me, with no real backing, but you haven't
really explained it, so that makes it harder to take in.

--
Damion Milliken University of Wollongong e-mail: u9467882@***.edu.au

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Message no. 13
From: Damion Milliken <u9467882@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 19:34:46 +1100
Edge writes:

> I think I stated it in my last post but mostly he looking for
> Karma, experience and to give me the GM a chance to have some deckers run
> against him.

Karma? For building a computer? Why's that? Karma for stealing the
blueprints of the latest Fuchi mainframe to copy for sure, but for building
your own? It's like giving a sammie karma for getting cyberware installed.

> As far as the home internet he wants a san to his own system so that he can
> have his own world to run amok in.

Now the most fun part of that is that it's his own world for _others_ to run
amok in! :-)

--
Damion Milliken University of Wollongong e-mail: u9467882@***.edu.au

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Message no. 14
From: Zach Weenig <Zach.Weenig@*.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 10:18:40 -0700
On Mon, 14 Nov 1994, Damion Milliken wrote:

> Zach writes:
>
> > The 2 second interval is done through the SPU giving the person who is
> > supposed to be in there just enough time to enter his code while not
> > allowing other deckers to execute programs.
>
> I assume that this is open to be stealthed through though? And is it
> possible to just blast the ICE in there, and charge your way through? Oh,
> and how did you get the system to shunt the decker around? I admit that it
> does seem a bit contrived to me, with no real backing, but you haven't
> really explained it, so that makes it harder to take in.
>
> --
> Damion Milliken University of Wollongong e-mail: u9467882@***.edu.au
>
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+
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>
Okay I e-mailed my old GM and he is sending me the total specs
for the system and I'll post them then.
Message no. 15
From: Star <KADAMS@*****.VINU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 17:58:37 EST
Any ideas
> on how he could program IC and or buy it?
>
> Thanks Edge
>

If there is any way to copy programs, and the like. Have the decker
break into LoneStar's computer. They've got some pretty sick ones.
One is called Kill Joy- it is the equivilent (sp?) to the blaster IC stun
program. The other is called Black Hammer. It is the Black IC program
that attacks the person and not the personna. Of course if your decker
isn't good enough to get into LoneStar...
Your friendly celestial
orb,
Star
Message no. 16
From: The GREAT Cornholio <mruane@***.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Home Matrix Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 18:00:21 -0700
On Mon, 14 Nov 1994, Paul Finch wrote:

> I think I stated it in my last post but mostly he looking for
> Karma, experience and to give me the GM a chance to have some deckers run
> against him. Egotistical? probably but man his PC is good. As far as the
> home internet he wants a san to his own system so that he can have his own
> world to run amok in. That should explain things better. Heck if you are
> a Sam you want big guns, when you get big guns you want to get beigger
> guns, and eventualy you end up having to customise new weapons to satisfy
> the urge to get bigger and better. So KA!
Tat's interesting. If the decker started programing IC instead of
destroying it all the time, he would have a deeper understanding of
programming. And the more I program, the better I get at writing
specific types of programs. So Mr. Decker is in his own little world
discovering new tricks to throw against IC.


Mike aka Spellslinger

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